Thursday *LOST* Thread (Spoilers imminent)

Not a great episode, but certainly a great set-up to the season finale. We get to find out what happens when the countdown ends next week! And who's on the boat? My vote is for Desmond. So what do y'all think?

I'm still trying to figure why the others want the Kate, Sawyer, Jack, and Hurley specifically.

They've tossed Kate back twice, and I don't know why they'd even think about Hurley.

in some way. That seems to be the recurring theme. Even Sawyer, who is still trying to act like a con, has a heart.

That each of them were responsible for people dying in some way.

One of my friends just mentioned this.

Jack saw his dad.

Kate and Sawyer saw the horse.

Hurley saw Dave.

I'm trying to remember if anyone else has had a conscious vision -- that wasn't Walt. Seems like someone did, but I'm drawing a blank.

I'm talking about conscious visions.

Last night's episode was not as quick-paced as I would have liked. However, there were some very interesting developments.

1) The Others (at least some of them) are clearly mad scientist-types. They put Walt into a "box" (Skinner box?) and are trying to figure out if he can astral project.

2) Alex is fundamentally good. It was nice to hear her ask about Claire's baby. I hope Rousseau gets to see her, although Rousseau is a bit like Michael in the crazed-because-they-took-my-kid department.

3) Michael is not quite right in the head. Why not come clean to Jack in private? They could have let Gale go "accidentally" and used the Other's list as a way to get in for an attack or something. Sayid is already planning to ambush the Others, so things wouldn't have changed - except Michael wouldn't have killed two people.

3.5) On the other hand, not so fond of Ana Lucia.

4) Sayid is dead, if Michael had his way. If the Others only want Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley, Sayid would probably be killed (like Claire would have been).

5) Charlie shoots up with mystery vaccine that needs to be taken every nine hours. Smart. :eyes:

6) Claire accepts vaccine without question. :eyes:

7) The boat lands in the exact same area that the plane went down. Is the spot somehow pulling vessels in?

8) Walt says that the Others are just pretending. Who are they really? Sounds like they are researchers that can come and go from the island. Maybe next season will be about escaping from the Island.

9) Poor Hurley. If those Others experiment on him, I hope Sayid catches them.

10) Eko is fascinating. And I like his interaction with Charlie.

The vaccine in last night's episode was clear, while the vaccine the others had used on Claire previously was yellowish.

3/3.5 -- I agree that something is not right with him. I think that Walt's "specialness" is unduly influencing him. Like Miss Clue said, "you don't seem to even know your son -- why are you so desperate to get him back?" True, true. Michael was even trying to get rid of him right up until they boarded that plane. Why is he so desperate to get him back? He's murdered 2 people in cold blood and is about to sacrifice 4 of his comrades. Something isn't right. This also struck me though -- I think that the last time Michael saw Ana Lucia before he disappeared was when she killed Shannon. Perhaps he felt better about offing her because of that?

5. I thought the vaccine was every 9 days, not hours. Or am I mistaken? I did have a couple glasses of wine during the show so...

Still - injecting yourself with mystery vaccine is worthy of the Darwin Awards.

I don't see anything wrong with that. Plus, he always wanted to be a good dad - he just never had the opportunity and he was overwhelmed by suddenly having to raise a grown child that he doesn't even know.

I'm just wondering how much of that warming was due to parental love and how much was due to the fact that Walt seems to have wild extra-sensory powers.

Don't you remember the episode that flashed back to Claire's time with the others? In their hatch, a medical facility, she found a locker full of fake beards and ratty clothes?

He was a guest of the Others.

I had thought that they were trying to disguise themselves, so that someone wouldn't be recognized (Locke/Jack's dad??? = The man?), but now it seems to be to hide something a lot bigger than that.

Thought it was a great set-up for the finale.

And my first thought on seeing the boat was that it's Desmond. I found it funny that the survivors were thinking it was a rescue boat. That little racing boat probably holds 2 people max.

The one thing I'm glad the writers did: the show would have completely jumped the shark had Sayid believed Michael. His actions seem incredibly transparent; I don't want to start a whole thing here, but seriously, if you're organizing a commando raid to rescue your kid back, do you take the morbidly obese guy who's never fired a gun before? Or the ex-Republican Guard soldier who's seen his fair share of combat?

His decisions have always been questioned, and he's shown an increased willingness to give others their way because I think he's tired of it. So in that regard, I buy that Jack doesn't totally see through it. That said, Sawyer, Sayid, and Kate all aren't just going along with whatever Michael wants to do.

What happened to the monsters in the trees, the scary noises, the black twisting mist...The polar bears, the black horse...

They're tromping all over the island now, and before almost every time someone would be alone, they'd hear that BWWWWWAAAABAAAABBAAAABAAAA and get scared and then trees would get uprooted, and eventually we saw a black mist like thing...

Whatever happened to that? or are they just making up all this crap as they go along?

So... maybe we'll soon find out!

Not since Eko stared it down, I don't think.

The polar bear was sort of explained a couple episodes back when Locke found the black light map.

has not been heard or seen since Mr. Eko stared it in the face and sneered.

And where is he heading to? Surely not to the hatch as Mr.Eko is the new hatch man now...

Next epizode should be interesting.

I read on another Lost site that the new Dharma logo could be the Japanese symbol for "Sun" (a rectangle with a line through it) possibly making it the flame station. The flame station is north of the swan station according to the blacklight map on the hatch door.

I am now rummanging around some sites to see what I can find. I'll let you know :)

http://www.friesian.com/yinyang.htm

Check out the Riben symbol. The below text accompanies the symbol.


For example, the character for "mountain," now read shan in Mandarin, turns up as san in Korean, in Vietnamese as so. n or núi, and in Japanese as san, sen, zan, or yama -- the last versions in Vietnamese and Japanese being the native words. Similarly, we find the name of Japan itself, "Sun Source," as Rìben in Mandarin, Yatbóon in Cantonese, Ilbon in Korean, Nhâ.t-Bàn in Vietnamese, and Nippon or Nihon in Japanese. The Cantonese word is, of course, cognate to the Mandarin. The Korean, Vietnamese, and Japanese are all borrowings from Chinese, pronounced in the local manner. Native words for "sun" are hae in Korean, ma.t giò. i ("face of the sky") in Vietnamese, and hi in Japanese (e.g. hi-no-maru, "circle of the sun," "sundisk"). The Japanese borrowed word for "sun" in isolation is nichi, but this is just the pronunciation of niti, where the final i as been added because Japanese syllables cannot end in t. In compounds, the i can drop out, so nichi-hon (*hi-moto in the unused pure Japanese reading) becomes nit-hon. At that point different things can happen. The t can be lost in assimilation to the h, getting us Nihon, OR the h can revert to its original p, with the t getting assimilated and doubled with it, getting us Nippon.

The flashbacks were starting to get old on me. I mean geez, Bernard & Rose had a flashback and you very rarely see them week to week (whereas Libby was technically one of the stars listed in the opening credits and she never had one).

There was a flashback but it was only to Michael's time with the Others. But in season #3, I'd like to see less of the off-island flashbacks and more on what's happening with the island. Obviously last night's show has setup a way to introduce new characters to the show for next year (since they just about killed off everyone they brought in this year) AND for all we know - that boat might be filled with rich tourists whose boat has lost it's course. Perhaps they'll be new people living on island.

I was glad to see that Sayid saw through Michael's lies. I mean come on, there is no reason why anyone would take Hurley on a commando trip to rescue someone even if Hurley lost someone he cared about. Sayid, Locke or Eko would clearly be better choices.

Finally - when will someone notice the bullet hole in the floor of the hatch (remember Michael cleaning up the blood). It doesn't take a crack CSI team to see that bullet went straight down from the gun making it almost impossible for Henry to have pulled unless he was somehow floating above Michael. I think next week Eko will pick up on that.

And why would Eko tell a story of when he was a priest in England. We know that Eko was not a priest and I believe only 'served' in Australian when they thought he was his brother

His story was quite pointed.

And I think Rose's story speaks to something weird about the "healing" powers of the island. I don't think they'd have done it otherwise. It'd been a long time since we thought about how Locke stopped being paralyzed, and I think the writers did that to refresh our memories a bit, while showing us someone new.

I attended a high school Catholic seminary. I was thinking while Eko went through his story how that is exactly how the priests that are best at counseling really are. They tell these damn stories that seem like they are out of the blue and then BAM they are dead on point.

I attended a high school Catholic seminary. I was thinking while Eko went through his story how that is exactly how the priests that are best at counseling really are. They tell these damn stories that seem like they are out of the blue and then BAM they are dead on point.

and she sold him the Virgin Mary statues.

Now wouldn't that be interesting if that was true?