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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:56 PM
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Poll question: Batman or Superman
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:57 PM
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1. Batman fo' shizzle!
:P
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:59 PM
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2. Superman. Batman's not even in the same league.
Though, I have to admit...this new Supe...good thing he's got special powers, cuz he's looking like I could kick his ass.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:04 AM
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39. He doesn't look like superman.
I'm pissed. They couldn't find an actor a few years old and less baby-faced?

Come on, he's supposed to have been Superman for years, gone off into space, and then come back again. How the hell can he and Lois Lane both be 21 years old still?
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:16 AM
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50. Ya know, I read that this actor is the same age Reeves was
when they did the original Superman
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:00 PM
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3. Batman. Superman is the fucking dumbest idea ever for a superhero.
I have never liked the character or the concept - too much invincible, and the comics were always awfully and horribly contrived. The only good ones were when John Byrne redid Superman in the mid-80s, and even with him at the helm, the goodness only lasted about ten issues until it became standard Superman crap.

I don't find him interesting at all.

Batman, on the other hand, has long been on my toplist of favorites (with Spider-Man, Iron Man, and Thor, and also Conan, though he's not a superhero): a normal human being with no superpowers except a magnificent brain, a bit of insanity, a well-trained body, and a dedication and focus that are truly extraordinary. That's a character that one can actually write incredible stories for.

Superman is rot. Pure sophomoric twaddle.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:41 AM
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35. Rabrrrr - you rule.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:52 PM
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58. You nailed it.
I've never been a big Superman fan but I do enjoy Batman. Of course, neither of them can touch Spiderman, IMO.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:01 PM
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4. Other.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:39 AM
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34. Holy Crap
I thought I was the only one to by that limited Series!!!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:59 AM
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38. Make that one of three
Jeez. $0.75 won't even buy you the mylar bag to store it in anymore.
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m_welby Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:23 AM
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42. make that one of 4
It's still around in the basement somewhere I think.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:53 PM
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59. Holy Shit!
I want that!
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:08 PM
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5. The Dark Knight
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:08 PM
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6. Superman !!!...:)
Superman all the effing way...:) Batman is sweet though, he is my second favorite. Also, the superman chest on BR there, has been photo shopped, the logo isn't that big...:) But, i prefer the biggest emblem...:) As for my reasons of like Superman, compared to say, Batman or Spiderman, flaws and differences, here is my take...:)


I think, in my case, superman being godlike, was one of the things, that made him a cut above the rest. He didnt' have to suffer any of the ailments, or other pains that normal people have(sometimes he does aka kryptonite and his other weaknesses, but by and large, he doesn't). He doesn't have to stand up for hours on end, doing a crap job, he is out there flying around, saving people, doing good. While us humans, are in physical pain, broken bones, twisted ankles, what have you's, superman never goes through that(if ever?). Thats one of the reasons, why I like Superman.

I played football/track and field through highschool/junior college, and I don't know how many times, I told myself "I wish i were superman, so i can win this game, or out throw that steroid freak from a rival school." In that regard, supermans prowess, was something for me to strive for. Trying my hardest, trying not to show pain, or any other ailment.

So, the godlike status, doesnt' bother me, it is something I admire. I also admire, that he faces foes whose power levels are greater than his, and slightly less than his, he goes through his rough days also, but his power, and his godlike nature, is one of the main things I admire.

As far as him being flawed...he is flawed. He wants to save everyone, and that is IMPOSSIBLE. That in itself is a huge flaw. Another flaw he has, is that he is in love with Lois Lane. A woman, whom, by all means, is a great person, and whom loves superman back, but what about the more, prominent issues, concerning a future with Lois/Superman. Superman, knows, he will probably out live Lois(highlander angle here), and that they will probably never have kids, because of the "unknowns" about kryptonian/human breeding. That I believe is a flaw, loving a woman, whom you know, in all likely hood, is going to die, and you will not be able to have children. I consider this a flaw, because the relationship will end, yet he strives to grasp onto the "now" aspect of it...yet knowing, in the end, she will die. I dont' know about you, but i consider that a flaw...

Another flaw, that he shows constantly, is his approach to enemies, he approaches them, as if "they" can't do him any harm. I don't know how many comics i have read, where he comes on some new superpowered villian, and he usually says "Hey, whats the problem" and in response he gets blown away, or embarrassed(punched into next week usually). Then he comes back, and fights the guy. I don't know, anyone who does this in real life, i dont' go up to some guy, who just started some guff, tap him on his shoulder, and ask, hey bud, whats the problem? No one does that, superman is usually a ask a question, than get served, than react superhero, he has to get served, in order to act in most cases, when it involves other super powered villians. In real life, if someone starts guff, people react immediately towards it, they usually dont' ask, hey, man, whats the prob? Superman, does that all the time...Batman, Spiderman, and a good handful of other heroes dont' fall into that pattern hardly, if ever.

Superman has his flaws, as does everyone, and Superman has faced his own share of misery, and loss. Superman, lost not only his parents, but his whole planet. Not to many people have lost a culture/race as aboslute as Superman has. I'm an American Indian, and through assimilation, and confrontation with the US, in the past, many things/aspects of American Indian culture have been lost due to assimiliation, and colonization, but not to the same level as superman(there are still some half million plus, American Indians around). He was adopted(as was I), and had to struggle, in terms of fitting in, with the human race.

He also has to hide his secrets, from most of the people that he cares about(or did/had to). Its rough, hiding secrets from the people you love(another flaw, maybe?), and when he has problems, he hits that secret wall, because he can't fully divulge what is "really" eating at him(which is constantly shown in Smallville, over and over and over and over and over and over again). He has a lot of things, that he has to cover, to maintain his facade of Clark Kent, in which he does master better than Peter Parker does...

Peter Parker, especially in the movies, is constantly getting fired, because of his Spiderman duties, but do you see clark kent getting fired? No, cause he finds that medium, which eluded PP(in spiderman movies predominately). In the case of Bruce Wayne, he is the friggin owner of Wayne Enterprises, he is the top cheese...Just like the Walton family owns walmart, and yet they have Lee Scott running the whole show, the Waltons dont' do nothing, but collect $, and do publicity. Bruce Wayne, in my opinion, is like the Waltons, a billionaire, who owns a global business. Wayne, doesnt' have to put that much emphasis into his playboy persona, well, not to the same degree that Superman has to put in to his role as Clark Kent, reporter.

I just see different degree's of turmoil, and struggle, than others I suppose. Granted, Batman, doesnt' have the extreme invulnerability, or power that superman has, but I do believe that each faces about the same amount of turmoil/chaos. One of my main beefs with Batman is, he always has an answer/gadget for everything, and that in itself, is impossible in its own right. People say, superman has to many powers, god like, i say, Batman has the same problem, he overcomes everything with some gadget, or by strategic planning. Its almost akin to the Anti-Shark Reppelent spray bit in Batman The Movie, but they fancy it up in comics, with some grand invention, or serum, or armor, or something like that, but its end, achieves the same thing, yet one has a cheesy name, the other has a cool, hip name.

I have read a lot of batman/superman comics, its almost impossible to read just one of them, without the other hero coming onto the scene. I see the inner struggles in both, I just happen to like superman more. I think Superman's creation story, is very deep, and has grown more so through the years...

I can also relate to superman because

1. I'm adopted
2. I know what it means, to lose ones culture through disaster
3. Being different(him with his power, me, with many flaws!)
4. I'm big/strong/tall, not like superman though...:) Most people, put a lot of physical burden on me, and responsibility, because of my size, and also how i socially interact with people. Also, because of my size, in the fights that I have been in(football stories, oh god) I am the first target of attack, much like Superman is, in most cases.
5. I have held back secrets, from the people I love, care about...
6. I stick up for people, and protect those who are in need, and superman is saturated with that.
7. I see the good in everyone, much like superman does...

The list goes on...but, what do i have in common with Batman?

1.Did i lose my parents? Nope, not yet, and thank god.
2.Am i a rich, billionaire? Nope.
3.Do I have a cool car, gadgets? Nope
4.Do I know any martial arts, fighting styles? Judo, wrestling...thats it...
5.Am I a master strategist? I'm a decent chess player does, that count?

So, far i'm not batting very good, but don't get me wrong, I like batman, he is my number 2. Batman, to me, is like a Clint Eastwood character in his old spaghetti westerns, a bad ass, who takes care of business quick, and who knows exactly what to do in every circumstance...in most cases, superman doesn't know, in most cases, Batman knows exactly what to do...but, that is just my two cents, flame away if you must...I am a superman fan, and I hope/believe/have faith that SR will be a fantastic movie...:)
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:11 PM
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7. Here's one for you
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:17 PM
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9. Yeah
I got a whole folder of Superman Returns pics, trailers, and what not. YOu batman fans are spoiled now...:) You got Christian Bale, damn, he is, IMO the best cast for a comic book hero(besides reeve of course) ever...Bale fits the role, so well, and Batman Begins was awesome, i was there opening weekend supporting the old Caped Crusader...:)
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:19 PM
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10. I'm glad I'm not the only one that makes folders for his movie pics
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:38 PM
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11. man dont'
worry, comic book geeks/weirdo's unite!...:) I am usually on the imdb.com movie boards...a poll like this was put on the superman returns board, and Batman still won...crazy...:) I haven't ventured on the Batman Begins II board much, but I think Ed Norton would be a GREAT Joker...thoughts, comments? wait, clarification, Norton physique from American History X, with a touch of Fight Club insanity...
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:10 PM
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14. Do you think you may be taking this poll a little too seriously?
Well, I give your essay an "A+"
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:18 PM
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15. oh...:P
I had to copy/paste this, from my posts on imdb.com...I hate retyping things over and over and over again, so when questions like this come up, i got a response all ready for them...:P I like your avatar by the way...:)

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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:24 PM
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18. Wonder Woman is way cool
How does she compare to Superman? Limit of 50 words please. ;)
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:28 PM
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22. she compares quite a bit
but has more in common with say, Capt Marvel, or Thor. I never thought of wonderwoman, as much of anything, until i read Kingdome Come by Alex Ross, fantastic graphic novel...I got the novelization of Kingdome Come, and Wonderwoman, was bad ass. The writers, finally made her an Amazon Warrior for a change...:)

In the Dark Knight Strikes Again, Wonderwoman/Superman have a baby together...very interesting to say the least, but the DKSA was a pretty weak comic otherwise...the art/story was...well, it seemed rushed, and not properly thought out...
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:31 PM
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23. Well, well, well. I think I figured out what one of your hobbies is.
Are you into Japanese anime too? Just curious
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:37 PM
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26. yeah
I'm a comic book geek, but i'm out of practice. I usually get graphic novels, i hate searching high/low for all the issues of a storyline. I do like anime, but its hard for me to find any good ones. I have spent way to much money on renting/buying shitty anime, that I have on finding good anime. The anime i do have, and like are:

1. Ninja Scroll
2. Ghost in a Shell
3. Vampire Hunter D
4. Tekken the Movie
5. Princess Monokoe

Thats about it, in a nutshell...its just hard for me to find, a good anime...the previews for them all make them look so BADASS, but when i rent them, its pure crap, except the animation, the animation is usually top notch, but in most cases, everything else is complete crap
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:07 AM
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40. Batman is more realistic.
Edited on Tue May-23-06 11:16 AM by Neoma
To me.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:02 AM
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49. Thats what a lot of people say
and I agree with that, but only to a point. I think, Superman is just as viable as batman is. For all the things, i like about Batman, you have to stretch the imagination to accept that someone like him, could be feasible in the real world.

But, its all good, discussing comics, is a joy to me...:)
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:38 AM
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52. Very nice essay
Batman and Superman have always been my two absolute favorites in all comicdom.

I never have understood the moans from the Marvel crowd that Superman is too "invincible", when they have characters who can destroy planets by uttering a single word. Utter bollocks, if you ask me.

Superman's physical invincibility makes him vulnerable in other ways, as you well point out.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:14 PM
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8. To be honest with you
too, all the Superman/vs Batman polls I have ever participated in, Batman wins. I'm not bitter or nothing, to each their own, supes is my guy...:) In my experience, Batman has always been more POPULAR, and I would always get agigated when people would say, Superman is the most well known and popular...and i'm like, not in my experiences. I'm a big comic book head, and I have yet, to meet another superman head like myself...all my comic buddies are batman/spider/wolverine/silver surfer/thor guys...

And these polls, I see all back up the notion, that Supes, as much as i like old blue, is out shined by Batman...but in all honesty, I haven't seen to many good stories with big blue, and batman has been privy to a lot of talented writers, and stories...all the BEST Superman stories i have read, are all elseworld stories, and not in the current continuation. I wish the writers, would get an imagination dammit!

And superman, isn't all powerful...Hal Jordan can hand him his ass, Doomsday has handed supes his ass, Darkseid, and I got a BIG notion that Orion could do the same...:)
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:14 AM
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41. Although I like most superheroes,
I also think the king is Superman.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:04 PM
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12. Body armor under a cape is waaaaaay cooler than...
...a cape over Underoos.

Bats wins my vote.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:08 PM
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13. hate to burst your bubble...but
in the comics...gasp, batman wears a cape over his underoo's too...:) And he usually doesn't wear kevlar armor in the comics...:)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:25 PM
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20. Superman rocks!
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:32 PM
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25. *chokes on spit*
ha, that is hilarious!...:) Thanks for posting it...I got some neat ones about batman's, somewhat dubious relationship with Robin the Boy Wonder....
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:19 AM
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29. To the Bat Pole, old chum! n/t
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:20 PM
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16. Aquaman!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:22 PM
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17. Wonderwoman
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:25 PM
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19. Best answer yet
:)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:39 PM
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27. Thanks
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:27 PM
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21. For me it's Bats all the way
But it's almost like comparing apples and oranges. I can understand the appeal of Supe but it's at a different level. The appeal of Supe is like the appeal of stories around the ancient greek gods. He's not 'real' he's more of representation of ideas.

That holds for Bats as well but there's more of a human component with him. He's a 'self-made' superhero with human struggles. Perhaps I'm not versed enough in Superman mythos but seems like introducing angst and more 'humanity' into the character is a fairly recent thing. For Bats to that part has gotten more attention lately but the underlying story has always implied it.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:31 PM
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24. Batman for emo-ness, Superman for wanna get my hands on-ness
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:41 PM
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28. Superman
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:24 AM
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30. For me, it's a tie.
Been in the comic world for so long (and hubby is a comic artist) that I can appreciate both characters. I love Batman for his dark side, and I love Superman for his optimistic side. They actually complement each other very well. :)
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:39 AM
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31. Batman - by a mile.
There's just so much more phsychological depth there - at base he's a human, but a human who hides part of himself all of the time. There's a definite darkness to his superheroics which is most attractive.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:43 AM
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32. 1960's TV Batman!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:43 AM
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33. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na BATMAN!
:D
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:59 PM
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45. Lets all sing along!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:43 AM
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36. Spiderman fucking sucks.
Oh... uhhh. I vote Batman, wholeheartedly. :D
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:46 AM
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37. ok -- rumour has it -- this superman is really SUPER
in the speedos.

i can't vote though 'cause each has hotness in different ways.

batman has that borderline spike and eagle s&m fierce thingy.

and superman has that wholesome salty goodness thing goin on.

depends on what i'm in the mood for.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:59 PM
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61. If that's the case
then Batman wins by a mile!
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:28 AM
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43. Superman's a wuss
he's just really strong naturally, and has all these superpowers. Batman's a badass, cause he's just a normal guy who knows his shit.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:35 AM
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51. I like Superman because he represents America as we wish it could be...
...just and compassionate, honest and forthright. It also represents what we wish we could be: strong enough to stick to our principles and not be smacked down for it.

I like Superman because everything about it is a firm "NO" to cynicism.

Another thing I like is that it's goodness WITHOUT the tediousness of Christianity.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:51 AM
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53. Very well said
Although Batman has always been my favorite superhero, Superman has always run a very close second. With his physical invincibility, he could easily do what most humans would probably do and become a tyrant God, ruling the Earth and probably a portion of the Milky Way galaxy. But he chooses not to. He ALWAYS tries to do the best, most honest, most compassionate thing, and I think that's really cool.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:37 AM
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44. Dude Man
He has the proportionate strength and speed of some dude.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:13 PM
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46. like, in a real fight...?
cuz superman would obviously destroy bruce wayne's candy ass.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:56 AM
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54. In "The Dark Knight Returns", Batman gave Supes a good ass-kickin'
Of course, Superman had been dosed with Batman-synthesized kryptonite and Batman was wearing a powered armor suit, but still...
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Conan_The_Barbarian Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:13 AM
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47. Too different to compare
Batman is a crafty clever kinda guy who relies and stealth and advanced gadetry while superman just has powers that make him a god damn demi god. Superman would simply crush batmans fragile skull with his left hand. Based off of coolness however they both lose and the Joker wins.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:57 AM
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48. Batman kicks ass!
But in a fight, Superman would likely win...Then again, I don't know about the pretty boy in new movie though. I think they should have casted someone older.

I think it's an unfair fight though. Batman is just a human with really cool gadgets and is well trained...

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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:37 PM
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55. Wow. I didn't expect this thread to last.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:43 PM
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56. Allways liked Superman over Batman
Although the batman movies were better..I thought Michael Keaton did a Wonderful Job.
Hated Clooney as batman.
I am stoked about X-men movie comming out tomorrow
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:49 PM
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57. Batman.
He's a real guy just trying to do his best in the world.



(Actually, I've always been more of a Peter Parker/Spiderman sort of gal but between the two above I'd have to go Batman.)
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:53 PM
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60. Superman has the power.
Edited on Thu May-25-06 05:53 PM by Fox Mulder
What does Batman have? Some cool toys.

:eyes:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:26 PM
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62. Batman has a Kryptonite ring. Game over. Batman wins
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