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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 06:52 AM
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Poll question: Heterosexuals, if a 'cure' for being hetero were found would you take it?
Not just a copycat...

Just pretend you're ridiculed, taunted, made cruel jokes at, utterly hated, attached to stigma and stereotypes, unable to find love because - being in this environment - you're a br5oken person, or even worse on a regular basis for who you are or for what you're perceived to be. You're not allowed to have pictures of your "family" at work or anywhere else. Must remain quiet as much as possible, unless you're lucky enough to be in a sympathetic environment.

Also pretend heterosexuals don't make babies to keep this miserable, hypocritical, two-faced "society" going as well. That's of paramount importance.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 06:54 AM
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1. It's bigotry that needs to be cured,
not our inherent sexual orientations.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:02 AM
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2. Yes, but sometimes to make the bigots learn is to
have them experience what they have been bestowing.

Have them take what they've been dishing out.

"Suffer the death of thine enemy"; I think that's the Bible-based statement. It's not possible to be friends with all, but if all would bother to understand who they don't like and vice-versa, our history may have been less bloody.
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:07 AM
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3. It's the "blue-eyed/brown-eyed" experiment done in the classroom
some time ago - make the oppressors experience the bigotry they show to others - quite successful from what I remember.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:07 AM
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4. I don't believe force is the most effective way
of changing hearts and minds, and Biblical arguments don't carry much weight with me, but I do believe understanding is key.

You bring some excellent insights to the Lounge, HT. :hug:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:11 AM
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5. Who said anything about force?! :)
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 07:11 AM by HypnoToad
Psychological manipulation is eminently more effective, and the Bible uses the term figuratively too. It needn't be 'death' as 'the issue are experiencing'.

Many Biblical statemtents cut no ice with me, and some of them were never there in the first place. But some have far more worth than most people will know; for those are the passages that preachers conveniently overlook. And if they didn't, maybe more of us could take Christianity a bit more seriously.

Thank you for the compliment. I try to be unpretentious when I need to.

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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 06:04 PM
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18. I've never really been one for vengeance. I can't bring myself
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 06:06 PM by TheFriendlyAnarchist
to actually hate anything or anyone. And honestly, I don't know if I would be capable of inflicting the same kind of hate and bigotry on others after I had known what it was like. But, while I absolutely sympathize what you've gone through (I can't say I know how you fell though) "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. . ." Violence and vengeance rarely solve anything. But I do hope that everything ends up working out, both for you, and our world though :hug:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 06:17 PM
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19. See post 5 for more. Or less. It depends on your point of view...:
:D

Again, I am not talking physical violence - hardly!! Especially in this day and age, violence is the worst thing one can do. Too much of it already... x(

I'm talking about people who ought to see what their fellow people are going through. A little empathy can go a long way. If most people did that, we'd be a more peaceable and conscientious species. It's understanding what has happened to someone else, even if you deplore that person.

I haven't fallen anywhere. I've just realized how spurious the world is. I need to survive on my own - for there is no one else. And those I've tried supporting in the past took a dagger and stabbed it in my heart; you'll have to PM me for details but it's high time I tend to my self and supporting the people who will treat me with a grain of respect.






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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:52 AM
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6. "...Also pretend heterosexuals don't make babies..."
then where would the babies come from, if being hetero was considered the deviant behaviour?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:54 AM
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8. An easy answer:
Homosexuals.

The only way to get an epiphany-generating point across is to reverse the behaviors utterly.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:01 AM
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10. then the answer to your original questionis easy too...
if i were hetero in a world where it was considered a deviant behaviour that made my life much more difficult, and homosexuality were the accepted social norm- then yes, of course i'd take the "cure".
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:54 AM
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7. Nope. Women are much more beautiful than men,
So I'd rather stay attracted to them :D
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 07:54 AM
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9. You're assuming it's a choice...
:D

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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:08 AM
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11. Well, I know I am a heterosexual man, that was not a choice.
But if there were a "cure" for heterosexuality, then it would become a choice, of a sort. :D
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:22 AM
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12. HELL, yes. And I can't believe I'm the only yes at this point.
Let's just pretend Hypno didn't post this to make the hetero folks on this board who haven't thought about oppression of gay people in any serious, personalized way devote some brain power to that concept. I'll be literal and non-sardonic and post that it's been more than five years since I've met a man I wanted to socialize with, and longer than that since I met one who wasn't such a misogynist dipshit that it might be possible to have sex with him that was actually halfway enjoyable. Not saying that every last man I will meet ever is happily snorkeling in the woman-hating male privilege that saturates our global society, or that every woman I would meet if I were gay or at least bi is free from prejudices or unlikeable qualities, but--I'm tired of waiting. I like and am more comfortable with 80% of the women I meet than the 99.99% of the men I encounter who usually expose their misogyny within the first hour or so of conversation we have. I would be happier if I could have relationships with women, but there's this one shitty problem: I'm not attracted to them. Thanks, Mom and Dad, for those great genes you gave me.

Yes, I'd take the "cure." I'd take it even if it didn't make me gay. I'd settle for asexual, which is wouldn't be much of a perspective change from how I'm living now anyway.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:29 PM
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20. Don't worry, there are 2 "yes" answers now.
:rofl:
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:16 PM
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25. Hell, NO..... and for all the same reasons as BlueIris.
If it was reverse-world, since I'm totally hetero, never
questioned it, don't want to change, then NOOOOOO.  Because I
am what I am, what God made me, and accept that.  Sexual
identity isn't changeable like hair color, contacts or
surgical makeover.  Be proud of who you are and live your life
with dignity.  It's the first line of defense.  
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:40 AM
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13. No.
Why should people have to change who they are when they are not hurting anyone? I agree with Heidi above -- it is bigotry that needs to be cured, not any particular sexual orientation.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 05:16 PM
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14. But given the size of the population, you're dreaming.
I nice dream, unquestionably, but a dream nonetheless.

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:35 PM
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21. Perhaps.
But how much would humans have accomplished without dreams?
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 05:22 PM
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15. Sure.
..but only if it completely eliminated my libido. I want out of the dating rat race.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 05:59 PM
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16. No
My wife won't let me.

Sorry, she's the boss
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 06:01 PM
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17. LOL!
:rofl:

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Conan_The_Barbarian Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:07 PM
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22. I'd do what made my life easiest
if the scenario you describe was my reality then why wouldn't I take the cure? You'd have to be stupid not to, would you honestly put yourself through uneccesary hardship over something so inconsequential?
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:51 PM
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23. I'm already leading a semi-monastic life anyways
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 08:51 PM by eyepaddle
but, to answer your question, no. I wouldn't want to change myself for a condition" (for want of a better word) that doesn't strike me as a problem. I'd love to improve my eyesight, lose the eczema, and to be honest, lose the gut--but I think my personality and direction of affection are just fine.

As of course you should too.

As long as I'm being frank and candid, while I am not a belligerent person by nature I am classically "male" enough to where I'd want to develop a cure for the assholes and jam it down their throat--no matter how outnumbered I would be.

Is there somebody who specifically needs to be sorted out for you? Remember I don't live all that far away and can be rather imposing when required.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:04 PM
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24. I think that it will get better
The younger generations at this point have been exposed to gay people. We have attended classes with people with 2 mommies or daddies. We have seen demonstrations, Jerry Springer and its ilk, and know at least one friend who is gay. I think this crap will eventually boil down and things will get settled. We just have to let the old people take their course and die on out.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:18 PM
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26. Hell no.
Not that I'm getting anything now, but I like my attraction to women just fine.
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