Victoria's Secret clerk refuses to take Britney's used baby diaper

Us Weekly reports that on June 4, Britney Spears was spotted picking out pink thongs at a Victoria’s Secret in Mission Viejo when she decided to change Sean Preston’s diaper on the floor next to the cash register.

Says the source, “Britney then tried to hand it to an employee,” but the salesperson wouldn’t take it.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/2006/06/14/britney_spears_changes_baby_on.html

I'd have refused to handle that baby burrito too! :puke: The baby wasn't the clerk's responsibility, and neither is the diaper. And it was rude of Mrs. K-Skank to even ask. :eyes:

Going from every teen age boy's dream to just a washed up has been with her hair up in curlers, a kid on the hip and one in the oven. Can't even command the star power to get a VS clerk to do her bidding:rofl:

Now that her fifteen minutes are over, let's hope she just goes away, far away, and we never have to hear about her again.

In some ways, I almost feel sorry for her. What kind of home was she raised in?

She had one of those moms that forces her small kids into beauty pageants and auditions and that sort of crap.

While that might sound sympathetic I'm not particularly sorry for her.

This explains how someone akin to a barnyard animal can go around leaving shit all over the place, demanding someone else does the work for her.

It was a non-emergency call. She didn't speak English. I didn't speak Spanish. It was arranged by my mother. Needless to say, she was gone that night.

One of my friends had a friend who used to put the used cat litter in the kitchen garbage. I thought that was gross, but your ex-roommate tops it by a mile.

Why would you call the police because someone put a diaper in the kitchen garbage? I've never heard of such a thing - and I've seen many people put diapers in the garbage. And no, I'm not some uneducated white trash either.

I called the local police station. I was having convulsions and I needed help. There was never any threat of charges. They were there to help me communicate with someone who didn't even try to speak my language. I couldn't speak hers, either, but the universal language of vomit had no effect on her. Hand signals were out, too.

This was my mother's house. My mother lives on the other side of the country. I am on disablity. I didn't ask her to live with me. She was thrust upon me by my mother. I have no family close by. I could not leave.

I would not lie to you. They came, they helped and they didn't file charges on her, or me for filing a false police report because it didn't exist.

If you've got a better idea how I should have handled it, I'm all ears.

I do remember your original post mentioning that you called the non-emergency line and that there was a langauge barrier. Sorry to have people just jump down your throat over nothing.

trash, actually.

I know in my house I preferred that they end up in the bathroom trash can, but it wasn't a rule to die by.

...right next to the kitchen. At considerable expense since I had no income. She wouldn't use it. I was getting physically sick. Vomiting any time I came into the kitchen, and anywhere that I so much as thought about it. This was my mother's house. My mother lives on the other side of the country. I am now on disablity. I wasn't then.

I didn't ask her to live with me. She was thrust upon me by my mother to help pay rent money. I could not leave.

This was a non-emergency call. There was never any threat of charges. They were there to help me communicate with someone who didn't even try to speak my language. I couldn't speak hers, either, but the universal language of vomit had no effect on her. Hand signals were out, too.

I would not lie to you. They came, they helped and they didn't file charges on her, or me for filing a false police report because it didn't exist.

If you've got a better idea how I should have handled it, I'm all ears.

Diapers go in trash. I'm sure there are some people in this world that just leave them laying around the house. You should have talked with her first. I can imagine they were all laughing at you back at the police station.

I'm just curious. Baby diapers with shit in them reek to high hell and just get worse with time. If you throw them in the kitchen garbage your whole house will smell very very quickly. Baby diaper pails are specifically designed to keep that stench in and be sealed, and even those need frequent if not weekly airing out and treatment. Human waste is not something you want essentially just sitting around in your kitchen, which is what it's doing in that garbage can.

No i'm sorry, what was happening to her was unacceptable and she used the police for one of their intended purposes which is mediation of disputes. If it wasn't police business, or if they had more important things to do, they wouldn't have shown up.

What's the point of paying taxes if you can't take advantage of the services provided.

Sorry - I'm just saying - yes it stinks but I just thought that was a bit much. Just an opinion. TO each his/her own. Flame away.

To apathetic and tired to start a flame war... ;)

I just think it's nice that someone called the police to mediate a dispute rather than take the matter into their own hands. She felt she was being taken advantage of, and was having trouble communicating. I say better to call the police than to get into some sort of retaliatory behavior. Especially if she felt trapped and sick in her own home.

I have no other ideas as to what she could have done, especially given it was her mothers house, and couldn't move.

and bad smells will make him extremely ill...


if you become ill some day through age or unfortunate fate like this lady or my brother, you'll remember "man I was rude about that lady bitching about smelling baby shit" and then you'll lean back over the toilet for another course of reverse vomit stew...


to healthy people it just smells like SHIT, and we move on, to the ill it's torture...

just be thankfullllllllllllll you aren't like that and get sick... man.

I don't think Kire overreacted at all.

Diapers, while necessary, are disgusting. The kitchen trash is not the place to dispose of them, even when everyone in the household is healthy.

Kire's stated he is disabled and that the odor in the kitchen - common living space, mind - made him ill.

He couldn't communicate with the roommate.

I, too, wonder, in the absence of anyone else who could've helped, what else he should've done?

A waste of tax dollars? That too is BS. The police do a helluva lot more than you watch on "Cops."

I think that the poster was justified in calling the police especially (and I'll put this in bullet form)

1. the poster was living with a roommate selected by the poster's mother who no longer lived in the home
   
2. The poster and the roommate did not speak the same languages
   
3. The poster was having horrible vomiting reaction from the diapers left in the kitching garbage can (which btw, I get ill like that too which is why I never had kids)
   
4. The poster attempted to rectify the situation by buying a second garbage can put outside of the home to be used but was not used (perhaps due to langauge barrier
   
5. The poster contacted the NON-EMERGENCY LINE and the police felt it was warrented a visit to help fix the situation. No one was arrested because of this
   

Please, jumping to conclusions and making assumptions is so freeperish-like. DUers should be above that and read everything first ask questions before assuming

This was my mother's house. She lives on the other side of the country. I have no family close by. I am on disability. I could not leave. I didn't ask her to live with me. She was thrust upon me by my mother to help pay rent money. I needed help. It was a non-emergency call. I didn't call 911. They were there to help me communicate with someone who didn't even try to speak my language. I couldn't speak hers, either, but the universal language of vomit had no effect on her. Hand signals were out, too. I had no one else.

I would not lie to you. They came, they helped and they didn't file charges on her, or me for filing a false police report because it didn't exist.

If you've got a better idea how I should have handled it, I'm all ears.

My daughter's poo's are particularly toxic. We have a special diaper pail and treat it weekly but it's still a chore to keep her room from smelling like a highway rest stop pit toilet. We put one of her poo diapers in the bathroom trash once, completely unsealed overnight and the room was just nasty. If we put her diapers in the kitchen regularly it would make half our house unusable and vile.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but she wasn't able to communicate this effectively because of language issues, and possibly more. There was a dispute.

She called the police, on a non-emergency line, and they had someone come out and negotiate and mediate the dispute. Rather than taking her own action, or just sitting there and be abused be the other person.

What's wrong with asking the police to mediate a dispute? What else was she to do if she kept trying to communicate to this person not to throw out the toxic biohazard in the kitchen garbage can? Sit there and be unable to use part of her house? Who else was she to ask to help her mediate the situation?

Seems pretty rational to me.

Convulsions? From a diaper? Grow up.

What is it called when you are vomiting uncontrollably and non-stop for weeks at a time?

:shrug:

"Well I'm a redneck woman
I ain't no high-class broad..."

I had a woman let her kid urinate on the floor of my store once while she was selecting pieces of crystal. She took so long and her daughter kept saying, "Mommy, I need to go potty" over and over again until she couldn't hold it any longer... ugh. Yeah, retail is fun. :eyes:

Well, not really, but I probably would have yelled at her.
Duckie

:wtf:

THEY HAVE PORTABLE CONTAINERS FOR YOUR KID'S DIRTY DIAPERS!

put them in there and throw them out when your get to your destination.

for actually changing her own kid's diapers.

I think it was Madonna who bragged that she had never changed a baby diaper.

I would give points to her.

grotesquery.

She is so disgusting, so vile, so awful, so obviously and celebratory low-bred and unwashed shit, she makes me want to kill myself.

She may be rich as hell, but she is nothing but pure low class unrefined trash.

so you can't criticize her.

perhaps this is all one giant performance piece. the curlers are a giveaway.

:puke:

Does Victoria's Secret have a VSKids line yet?

Carried it around? Yes, I suppose that's one option. Not a pleasant option.

Ask to place it in the trash can herself? Possibly.

The woman can't go to a public restroom; she clearly has no guidance on how to handle herself in public, trying to live a normal life, she's never had any guidelines for doing this. She's caught between having grown up on unnatural public attention and still needing it, and wanting to just live a normal life. She's too young to find that balance.

But when the sales clerk is hovering around, sucking up, wanting to be the gal who waited on BRITTANY SPEARS, yes, I'd ask if she could put it in the trash. What's the big deal? It's a baby's diaper. It's not like it's a syringe with blood all over it. It's a wrapped up, plastic diaper. Big deal.

I wouldn't call the tabloids about it either.

The classless bitch is the one who called the tabloids about being SOO thrilled to have refused a diaper from a mom just trying to do some shopping.

I see who the low class people are.

things you can buy to place dirty diapers in...so she should have bought some of those, tossed the diaper in that, and then placed it in the diaper bag.

It is NOT ok to hand a dirty diaper to a stranger, even one who works retail. Given that the clerk refused to take the diaper, I don't think she was hovering around or sucking up. If she wanted to be "the girl who waited on Britney" she would have taken the diaper.

I will give you that it was pretty classless to call the tabloids, but the way Britney handled it was totally white trash.

If she really didn't have any other way to deal with it, hand the damn thing to a body guard...at least Britney's paying them to deal with her bullshit.

I would not take a diaper from any customer...ever...under any circumstances. Fuck that shit! That's not what I'm getting paid for. I'd go out of my way for a customer in getting a product for them or answering their questions. "Could you throw this diaper out?" is not a question I need to deal with.

Because of Federal laws protecting employees: pathogens, etc.

The clerk provided really shitty service!

I would have never made a clerk take care of someone's dirty diaper and I would have defended them against any customer that wanted them to.

Obviously no one would expect a clerk to handle someones dirty diaper, but what was stopping the clerk from grabbing the trash can behind the counter and holding it out so Britney could dispose of it? Don't want to leave it in the can, then go throw the bag away. The clerk did not provide good customer service in this case, imo.

They would have to throw the whole can away.

Normal, healthy people can be sickened from exposure to human feces. Those with chronic illnesses, the elderly and children can face serious illness and even death from exposure to human feces. In a bathroom, where coliform bacteria might reasonably be expected, there are sinks and soap so one can wash hands. There is a lesser expectation of coliform bacteria in a retail shop floor, and forcing employees and customers to be exposed to it all day is unreasonable as well as violation of numerous health codes - as LostinVA has correctly mentioned.

interesting research that just came out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060616/ap_on_sc/dirty_rats

rat study shows dirty better than clean

WASHINGTON - Gritty rats and mice living in sewers and farms seem to have healthier immune systems than their squeaky clean cousins that frolic in cushy antiseptic labs, two studies indicate. The lesson for humans: Clean living may make us sick.

....

Human epidemiological studies have long given credence to the hygiene theory, showing that allergy and asthma rates were higher in the cleaner industrialized areas than in places such as Africa. Parker's studies, looking at animal differences, may eventually help scientists find when, where and how environmental exposure help protect against future allergies and immune disorders, said Goldstein, and Dr. Jeffrey Platt of the Mayo Clinic in Minn., both of whom were not part of Parker's studies.

Smear it on my face, now!

It's considered hazardous material/pathogens. It is illegal to ask an employee to do anything like this without proper safety equipment, it is usually illegal to have any type of bodily fluids in a public area, and the whole trashcan would have to have been thrown away.

Seriously, if you really are a current retail manager, you need to educate yourself about the laws you need to uphold concerning the rights and safety of your employees. And, you need to learn teh difference between bad customer service and your employees' legal rights.

I was the manager of a 60,000 sft store, +$3 million a year in sales -- a bookstore. Over 30 employees. Won store of the year more than once, and the Customer Service Award three times. No way in hell would I call this bad "customer service." So-called customer service does not take precedence over the rights of employees. Good grief, they were dressed in something just short of a haz-mat suit when they cleaned the bathrooms, and I called in an outside service if blood was involved, or certain other nastiness. Home Office didn't like it, but they shut the fuck up when the Federal and State laws were pointed out to them.

Bad customer service? Forsooth. Bad management, if this clerk was disciplined. And, if so, I would sue both Victoria's Secret AND Britney Spears.

The clerk did not have to touch the diaper. The clerk let her attitude get in the way of good customer service.

Touching has nothing to do with it. It's the law. NO Employee needs to be told to handle, in any way, another person's excrement... unless they are a hospital orderly, etc., with the proper safety equipment.

It's legally and morally wrong. It has NOTHING to do with customer service, and you should know that. The difference between a bad manager and a good manager is that a good manager is an advocate for their employees when it is legally and morally correct to do so. Period.

you have, because all stores keep bio hazard kits (sometimes called blood spill kits) that contain everything needed to handle bio hazards. After the diaper was dumped into the garbage can it could have been transferred to a bio hazard bag and then disposed of. There is ALWAYS someone working in a store (other than a very small store) that has training in bio hazard control.

You know this is the lounge not GD, and I really don't appreciate your stmts about my work. Not that it really matters to this discussion, but I have FORMAL training from the State of Arizona regarding bio hazards. I also have over 20 years of experience in retail mgmt. I have had employees clean up shit off the floor (yea, real feces), blood in the bathrooms from people shooting up and vomit. Many years ago I had a customer who threw up, urinated on the floor and proceeded to pass away right there on the floor of the liqueur isle. We cleaned up after that one to. The employees in all these cases always used a blood spill kit.

I never directly insulted you. Sorry if if you took it that way. I just think advocating for employees when they are in the legal right is more important than placating a nasty customer. I have no idea if that's what you do or not. And, I believe YOU were the one who brought up that the clerk was in the wrong, not me. What's in the legally mandated blood spill kit is not sufficient for the majority of possible pathogen incidents, thanks to the watering down of OSHA begun by Reagan.

I have recent enough experience, and I also know that what a "bio hazard" kit carries is not sufficient for many instances, as
The clerk was legally and morally in the right. Brittney was wrong. And any manager or corporate wonk who disciplined the clerk for her actions is in thew rong.

Argue all you want that the clerk was wrong. I'll repeat: advocating for your staff is more important than placating HQ or a nasty customer.

She should have been stopped from changing the baby out in the open in the first place. All I'm saying is that the clerk did not look at any options when refusing Britnys request to dispose of the diaper, most likely that was a mistake on the clerks part.

We are talking about a dirty diaper here, not exactly the same as bodily fluids from an IV drug user, so in reality the risk of contact with infectious disease is extremely low, whether the damn thing was touched or not.

Workplace safety is essential, I would never direct an employee to do something that posed any health risk to him/her or anyone else.

Is the clerk supposed to put her hands on Britney Spears? Shout and scream? If she called the police the diaper would have been changed before they got there. What are your suggestions, Mr. Manager-with-the-Bio-Hazard-training.

I'm just a lowly Ms. Manager-Without-The-Biohazard-Training.

Hell, even the movie theatre I worked at didn't have a biohazard kit and that's a place that could have used a hazmat suit.

like "we have a daiper changing in the bathroom if you need to use it" That was real hard, huh.

THAT is just stupid.

Did you clean up after the dead guy before or after the coroner got there?

I don't know and obviously neither do you.

a possible pathogen.

I work in city government and the FD has informed us that they would prefer that we not touch such material at all.

whatever he/she is directed to do by their supervisor, provided that the task is part of their typical job duties. As far as I know the same holds true in public service jobs.

You stmt is 100% wrong as it relates to secure care facilities, jails, prisons and virtually any other type of juvenile/adult/elderly care facility.

fan.

I mean, fans.

All five of them.

Right.

not an element of good customer service.

No retail employee should be expected to handle human waste, directly or indirectly. No. Way.

on how to handle bio hazards.

Nor in a place where we had biohazard disposal.

what do you suppose retailers do when customers shit, piss, throw up or die in a store? Just leave it there?

Really I have no idea what some little boutique store does, I'm talking about grocery, drug, etc. stores.

Sometimes the training is just a meeting with handouts, usually certain people are assigned cleanup duties.

A Victoria's Secret. We're not even talking about grocery, drug, etc. stores.

nevertheless, there is not any reason a clerk could not have held out a trash can so the diaper could be disposed of. The can could then be emptied. This does not require anyone to touch the diaper. I don't get the big deal about this other than it was Britney Spears who had the diaper.

And mention the so-called "blood spill" kit. What a joke. Finding blood or feces smeared all over the bathroom wall? Semen sprayed all over the bathroom wall? Drunk guy handing a clerk blood-soaked money while his hand bleeds? Someone ODing in the magazine section, including puking and pissing all over themselves? Yeah, that's covered in a 10x6 "blood spill" kit filled with latex gloves and those $1.50 nose-and-mouth masks you buy at Lowe's for yard work. Whatever. The other poster keeps acting like this kit is full-blown hazmat suit. No retail person is legally required to handle human waste nor clean up any matter that may contain pathogens.

I worked in retail as a peon and as a manager for a long time. This "training" consists of a 10 minute video, and many stores I've been in don't even have the necessary equipment. All that aside, this is a diaper we're talking about, not a customer who cut themselves and bled on the floor or a kid who peed his pants. Disposing of a diaper falls outside the realm of what is expected of a part-time retail clerk — just as a store, right in the open, falls outside the realm of appropriate places to change a diaper.

but that's besides the point, customers do inappropriate shit all the time. It's not the clerks job to be judgmental, their job is to provide the best customer service possible.

She/he just didn't want to handle a dirty diaper.

Either the clerk did not want to be bothered (you know like looking for a solution to this difficult question of diaper disposal), or the clerk was being judgmental about Britney's act of changing the diaper on the floor. Take your pick.

smelling the diaper AND offending every patron coming by making them smell the diaper.

Here's the thing - and that been Jane Doe needing to change her baby's diaper first, the clerk would have pointed the lady to the closest lady's bathroom where the have a propery changing table and away from the patrons. Second, had the diaper been changed without anyone's knowledge in the store - no one would have taken the diaper behind the counter. Those things start to smell you know. And finally, if I was Britney Spears, I would have taken the diaper with me because there are sick fucks in this world that would have taken the diaper and sold it on Ebay "Buy Baby Spears-Federline's Baby Crap". And the thing is - you know that's a fact!

VS employees are trained in biohazardous waste. Duh!

:sarcasm:

not nuclear waste.

They start to smell after awhile. Biohazard or not - I do not want to be behind the counter where there is a stinky diaper rotting away nor would I want to shop in a store that smelled like shit.

and certified to handle even bloodborne pathogens.

I was also specifically instructed that I am under no obligation, mandated by Federal law, to handle any bodily waste or fluid I felt uncomfortable handling for whatever reason--that I could call the FD to take care of it.

If we're going to comment on the clerks job skills, shall we comment on yours as well?

So as a government employee you don't have to take direction from a supervisor without first going through all relevant regs, statutes etc.? Interesting....

I am allowed to observe Federal law that states I'm under no obligation to handle any type of bodily fluids or waste.

Sheesh.

Yes she can...Before she was famous I bet she used public restrooms in malls.

just not for evacuation purposes. ;-)

She should have taken it and then charged her a thousand dollars for it.
I am so glad as to not to be related to her.

Would Golden Palace buy it?

On the one hand, she deserves the criticism she gets because she's made millions off of being a public figure and one based off her appearance, at that.

On the other hand, she's a person who hasn't really had an album in a few years and seems content to start a family with a white-trash douchebag, bearing a strong resemblance to 75% of the people I went to high school with. She was pushed into everything by her parents, so maybe she really just doesn't know how to function not being a celebrity.

On the other other hand, she's older and should know better.

On the other other other hand, America is obsessed with everyone acting like snotty socialites, so maybe that kind of behaviour is approved.

Damned ambiguity. Instead of having a decision on current Britney, I will wait the 17 years until Sean's book (dictated, of course) comes out.

a bad person. She may not have chosen a great guy, how many here are divorced?

She may not be a perfect mother, but at her age and with her lack of life experience, how else is she supposed to learn? Everyone would be bashing her if she was out in public without her kid, whining how she's left the kid at home with nannies while she's shopping. She can't go out in public with a nanny or everyone will say how inept she is.

So she should stay home? This is a girl who's traveled all over the world and wants to be out IN it, living a life, even if it's just shopping. Apparently she doesn't have any close friends... you never hear of her with them. She's all alone.

She doesn't do bars and nightclubs, she never has. She's never been out drunk, accused of doing drugs, of sleeping around, yet NOTHING is good enough for any of you.

The poor girl will never be good enough for everyone or anyone for that matter, will she?

Walk a mile in her shoes for a while, let me know how that works out.

She's had her whole life until now decided for her, so it's understandable that she might now have the best decisions right now. She has growing up to do.

If it comes down to Team Britney vs. Team Paris, I'll take team britney any time.

Boo hoo hoo, she's never learned that you don't sling feces in public, let alone try to fob off a handful to a lowly underling. Yes, it's so haaaaaaard.

Yeah. I think I'll save my pity for someone who deserves it.

entitled to be mean, rude, crass and judgemental towards her?

She earned her income by working her ass off and doing it honestly. She never lied, cheated or stole anything from anyone.

But hey, you go ahead and judge her, call her names and encourage hate and derision since it makes you feel better. Very liberal of you.

And if you think Liberal = Liking Other People's Shit, maybe that's why we keep losing. Liberalism has nothing to do with enjoying other's crassness and vulgarity, let alone sheer nastiness.

If you cannot see why her money gives her advantages others do not, and leads her to treat others as lesser beings (such as handing a salesperson her baby's crap) ... well, I pity you.

arrogance and hubris to imagine I have the right to criticize her simply because she's worth a couple million more than I am.

What right do I have to criticize someone just because they have 'more advantages' than I do? I have never behaved like that, treating someone like crap because they 'have more advantages...' What is that? Sour grapes? Jealousy? Lack of manners? Lack of compassion?

The point is, why must you be so mean?

If a salesperson was hovering over me while I had just changed my baby's diaper on the floor, which means it was pretty damn critical if you know anything about babies... if I felt she was in a helpful mood I would indeed ask her to put a rolled up baby diaper a few feet away in a trash can. Why not? It's not like she asked the chick to change the diaper. Spears was surely wanting to deal with the scenario as quickly as possible; you don't think she was enjoying changing her baby on the floor, do you?

And for that matter, should she have just walked behind the cashier to put the diaper in the trash herself? Come on, what's the protocol she's in such dire violation of here? You know, we all simply do the best we can. She's a mom, she's very young, carting around an infant, pregnant again, in hormonal distress buying underwear. Cut the chick some slack. None of us came with a manual on perfect behavior, especially when it comes to having kids.

You're wrong. You have no pity, just judgement and criticism about people you know nothing about.

There are public restrooms for changing diapers. VS floors are not for changing diapers. There is no excuse for handing a diaper to a retail employee and asking them to take care of it. Anyone that feels it's perfectly okay is probably someone that has unwittingly contributed to Customers Suck.

I don't think that we're making a personal judgement on Britney Spears. I know that I'm making a judgement on disgusting, inappropriate behavior. You act as if she's due to less scrutiny because she's Britney Spears, but I feel she's due to the same amount of scrutiny. Anyone who does that in a store is a fucking idiot, money or no money. I don't have any particular issues with Spears. Hell, I even have one of her albums and I like it. However, in this case you're defending disgusting, obnoxious, and unsanitary behavior. Something Spears should be called on. Retail employees are not minions to do your bidding and some people need to realize that. It's to the customers advantage to be nice to retail people.

with a diaper crisis when you're just trying to make it through the day.

I remember one time when my daughter was that age... we were out in Century City Mall... I needed to get OUT of the house. I was going nuts being at home with an infant alone, with no friends, no one to talk to; my only escape was stupid malls. At least I could be around people and hear quasi-intelligent conversations that weren't limited to being concerned about feeding, diapers and babies, even if I had mine with me. I could pretend I had a life.

Being out in public was better than being home alone, even with the challenges that schlepping an infant around presented, at least I wasn't home alone with dishes and a teevee for company.

But.. there, in the midst of my cola in the food court, Liv decided to produce the largest poop ever produced by an infant in world history. For no reason.. her formula intake was normal, she wasn't on soft foods yet... it was massive. Through the diapers, through her clothes, in the stroller, everything. The changing station in the rest room was filthy; there were puddles on the bathroom floor; piles of used toilet paper in the corners, puddles on the counter, no paper towels. Even prepared as I was with wipes, diapers, etc. I wasn't prepared for THAT. And that rest room is in the midst of THE most expensive real estate in the WORLD.

So as it goes, things happen. Public rest rooms are nasty; floors are a lousy second choice, and sometimes, again, things just happen.

I've been there. I've done that, I'm choosing to cut the gal some slack, because I totally understand what she's going through. The rest of you all can sit in judgement and slam a chick simply because you can. Go ahead. I still think it's mean.

that the cashier did not have to touch the fucking diaper, but enjoy your straw man anyway.

Augmentin and had an 'allergic' reaction to it. She developed horrific diarrhea.

I took her out of the mall and into the car. I think that is always a relatively reasonable solution. I changed many a diaper on the diaper bag's changing pad in the back of my van.

...I'm shoping for clothing in a store - there is no reason why I should have to deal with someone changing a diaper in the middle of the store's floor.

I don't have kids but my best friend does and I've gone shopping with her several times where we've had a pooping castophe. If the public restrooms were filthy we just went out to the car and did the best there.

We're not talking about a woman breastfeeding a child or doing some other function that isn't odorifious. We're talking diapers and they smell and they offend others and yes that's probably why I've chosen to be childless because I cannot stomach that odor for more than 2 minutes (my brother was just as bad - he would put an air filter mask on when he changed his kids diapers - not kidding you).

I guess we just have to find some sort of happy medium. It sucks that the bathroom was filthy and I would have not only complained to management, but if they didn't do anything I would have written to the newspapers about it. However store shopping areas & food courts are not the place for kid's diapers to be changed. Sorry, I can't be more flexible but I do not think I'm alone with this.

No problem.

She made her money by being in the public eye and now that it's not working for her, she bitches about the publicity. I have zero sympathy.

It's called celebrity. Having every bit of your life plastered on a magazine cover is part of the job description. It may not be a good part of the job, but I'm willing to bet we all have things about our jobs that we don't like...and very few of us have millions of dollars to compensate for it.

How dare you question her saintliness! She's rich, so therefore she must be great! See the response I go for posting pretty much what you did.

She's just a person. Why the hatred?

I saw a video clip of her recently. She had tripped while carrying her baby. (Been there) The poor girl was crying so hard and trying to hide. The mother in me came out and I really felt badly for her.

how many moms haven't tripped at some point when we were carrying our babies?

And at least she's changing her own kid's diapers and not leaving all the unpleasant tasks to "the staff".

Hey, good for her that she's actually the one CARING for her child! She's not handing her kid off to some nanny to raise.

When someone or other says "I take care of my kids" Rock says "That's what you're supposed to do. What do you want, a cookie?"

she has a baby. You aren't supposed to take babies out in public. They cry. And have to be fed.

She's rich! She doesn't have any problems.

:sarcasm:

at least part of your comment is untrue. I can't speak to the rest of your assertions as I have no idea.


I do feel sorry for her. And the children she keeps bringing into the world. She's a child herself - VERY juvenile - I was shocked when I saw just how juvenile she really is. I hope things work out for the best concerning her and her babies.

Fed can take a leap.

a real one who can be honest with her.

I feel sorry for her, her mother raised her poorly, if at all.

and let someone who knows what to do to help her with these things. Perhaps then none of us would be posting about baby federline's shit!

in their right mind changes their baby on the floor of a retail store. That is what those great little diaper stations were invented for.

flith, considering the sanitary habits of most people these days.

Honestly the floor is far more sanitart; I don't blame her. I can't stand public restrooms and avoid them unless absolutely necessary.

People can choose not use a public bathroom while in public - or to carry sanitizing wipes and use them. There is NO excuse for spreading feces on floors, restaurant tables, store counters, etc just because one is too dainty to use the public bathroom. It's disgusting and inconsiderate.

I doubt any kids have died or many have gotten sick because of getting their diaper changed in a public restroom. I would think they'd be more likely to get ill from playing on a floor or bench where some neurotic git just changed their kids diaper for "sanitary" reasons.

I've even heard on the news that children who are raised in homes where it is TOO sanitary get sick more often later in life. I believe this is because they can only grow immune to things if they're present. I know it sounds like a paradox, and it doesn't mean to throw feces all over the place and roll your children in it, but being overly protective can, in fact, be counter-productive.

When I was a kid, we used to swim in the nearby lake, which was pretty dirty. None of us ever got sick from it. Cousins and such that came to visit us always got an ear infection or some weird rash after swimming in the lake. Obviously, we had built up an immunity to the lake.

I think that the constant use of hand sanitizers and antibiotics is resulting in supergerms. I'm pretty germophobic. However, I just use regular soap and I also have taken antibiotics once in the last 15 years. Almost never sick. Unfortunately, I'll probably be given some antibiotics tommorow for Lyme's disease.

we did environmental swabs and I can tell you that door handles have much more bacteria than those changing stations.

:P

nobody.

Now, she should just fade away into obscurity. However, I have a feeling she is planning another baby stunt which will garner more sleazy tabloid coverage.

diapers in the garbage of a public or retail establishment. Even if it isn't, it wasn't the clerks responsibility to dispose of the diaper; where was Britney's diaper bag? And does she not have a Diaper Genie at home? She can certainly afford one.

That perks me right up.

take the kid to the bathroom diaper change station

starts next Tuesday...

Just in case anyone else got gift cards for christmas like I did, and hasn't used them yet.

:hi:

....She'll be there trashing the place and all... :P

We really hate having shit flung at us, don't we?

I saw a guy on a SF bus once freak out because two immigrants (Salvadorans I think) were changing their baby on the bus seat... The white dude starts ranting and raving about what is or isn't done in civilized countries, and eventually he ends up breaking the window of the bus behind the parents' heads with a brick.

The sight, smell, or even the mention of other people's shit triggers some really nasty chemical shit in our bodies.

That being said, Britney, being a primate herself, should have known how another person would have felt about having her baby's shit flung at them. My guess is that Britney believes people less important than her, such as clerks, belong to some other species that actually enjoys our shit, like dogs.

Diapers are nasty business. I can understand that a harried new mom with no foresight might need some help disposing of a diaper. But she should not have (if this story is true) expected anyone else to handle the diaper or the wipes. It is just not sanitary.

She should have asked for a plastic bag - sealed the diaper in it - and then disposed of it in a restroom. Simply handing a nasty diaper to a stranger is a bit much.

Notice that we don't get Britney's reaction to the refusal, though. If she had raised hell about it, it would be in the tabloid too. Although I find it a little clueless to expect a clerk to handle diapers (and then what? handle everyone's undies without having washed her hands?), I don't think it's the end of the world.

:rofl:

Someone needs to take her millions away from her and give them to a worthy cause.

No contest.

...Dick Cheney of course. :D

Pun intended. :D

but I wouldn't have called the media about it either.

The clerk could have just told her that they legally couldn't handle the diaper. The best thing that the clerk could have done would have been to offer her a clean trash bag for her to dispose of the diaper in. Britney could have easily placed the diaper in it, tied it up and stuck it in her diaper bag to dispose of in a restroom.

I'm a mom. I know that sometimes we do things that we shouldn't do. I hate being her defender but my goodness, if someone took every single mistake and published them for everyone to know about I'd have already had a nervous breakdown.

Personally, I think we should just give it a rest. If we quit following her every move we'd never hear from her again. Careerwise, she hasn't done anything in a while. Ignore her and she'll go away-once her husband finally leaves her.

Maybe the paparazzi took pictures of Britney coming out of VS with a dirty diaper. Or maybe it was a fellow customer. That's as likely a scenario as anything else. We weren't there, and the article does say she "was spotted", not reported.

...we have finally reached the outer limits what one should put up with under the guise of "the customer is always right".

that's classic

She's like school in the summertime...NO CLASS!!

Then, I would have calmly said, "Please throw this out at home Ms. Spears. We cannot have diapers in our trash" and spray a few sprays of the perfume tester. Babies sometimes have leaky diapers in inopportune places and being helpful would not have meant anything unsafe. It didn't need to be a huge deal. It really isn't.

Give her the bag. She could place the diaper in it, tie it off and put it in her diaper bag w/o worrying about it running everywhere. Just calmly advise her that you're not allowed to dispose of it in the store.

She's not the brightest bulb but I think she might be able to handle it. And maybe a bit of a smile would have diffused the situation.

It is about bodily fluids. :sarcasm:

She wears thongs.

Not the thong. There's nothing wrong with thongs.