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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:29 AM
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"I'll just put off being a feminist... until it doesn't matter anymore?"
From Pinko Feminist Hellcat:

This student--a twenty-year-old named Pete--basically thought that he could be feminist, but maybe he'd put it off (the way one puts off doing one's laundry or picking up their dry cleaning) since he'd rather be a player, and women don't like feminist men. In other words, being feminist wouldn't get him laid.

Why shouldn't I wait to be a pro-feminist man until I'm older, when women will appreciate it? Why shouldn't I be a player now, and have my fun?

Look, Pete, if treating women like people is so dire to you, then you aren't feminist. You're playing. You're pretending. You're also an asshat....


http://pinkofeministhellcat.typepad.com/pinko_feminist_hellcat/2006/06/ill_just_put_it.html


See blog for the whole deal.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:57 PM
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1. ?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:03 PM
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2. Ah, bloom. Glad to see you here tonight.
Exciting link, thanks for posting.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:43 PM
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8. Hi
:hi:


It seemed like a good subject for the lounge. :)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:05 PM
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9. Yes, yes it does, doesn't it. Especially tonight.
Sigh.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 11:58 PM
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10. Why tonight, in particular? I'd like to know.
I hope this night finds you well and content, m'dear, but it sounds like that's not the case.

Redstone
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:04 PM
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4. I've always considered myself to be a feminist.
(and the proud owner of a penis)
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:08 PM
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5. It was included in my package deal of humanism.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:34 PM
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7. huh huh ... You said "package"..
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:19 PM
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6. Obviously he doesn't get it
Unless, he matures he'll never really be a feminist anyway.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 12:33 AM
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11. I doubt "maturation" will help that little misogynist.
He looks like a done deal to me. It's sad that he'll probably find like six or seven women to knock up and abandon, or worse yet, marry, then be the kind of abusive sperm donor who pretends to be asleep while his babies are crying.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 12:47 AM
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12. Hey if being a feminist is getting in the way of his getting laid...
I see no reason why he shouldn't be able to soft-pedal it. Or is it now mandatory that people must at all times and at all places express their views?
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 10:00 AM
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13. So being a feminist means not sleeping around and having fun
when you're young? That isn't really a great inducement for young people to be feminist.

I guess if the idea of a "player" includes lying to women and treating them like shit, you could interpret this guy as a misogynist. If he just doesn't want to try to be monogamous until he's actually ready, he's better than the average person who commits and then cheats.

Somehow the kid has gotten the idea that feminism means being with only one woman at a time, which he doesn't want to do. I don't think this characterizes feminism. Plenty of feminist thought has questioned the paradigm of monogamy. So if anything he needs an education about what feminism actually means. He sounds like he thinks it means being a wimp and catering to his partner's every whim, and of course that isn't alluring to any healthy woman feminist or not.
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