"Seinfeld" sucked.

I have watched many, many episodes of this show, and I don't get the appeal. I laughed maybe twice. The writing was obvious, the acting way over-the-top, and most of the situations were unrealistic to the point of irritation.














Sorry, I'm waiting for the sheets to dry, so I thought I'd start a flame war.

love it...

For every situation in life, there is an appropriate Seinfeld or Simpsons quote.

Seinfeld = suck

The writing for the Simpsons was miles above Seinfeld.

My son adores Seinfeld...even went to see him live at a local place. I just don't get that humor...

Hey there, Finnfan! Long time no see! :hi: :hug: :loveya:

:hi:

favorite episode.

but I'm not going there........:o

not my show

"The writing was obvious, the acting way over-the-top, and most of the situations were unrealistic to the point of irritation."

That's why I LIKE Seinfeld. It's essentially making fun of the sitcom form. Can't the same be said of Scrubs, or Arrested Development?

I'm sure more than once!

a city thing.

I mean, I don't hate the overhyped, unfunny Seinfeld as much as I hate the equally overhyped, pathetically non-humorous Sex and the City, but it's close.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Man, I can't believe that.

What's funny to you - Cops?

The weather channel?

The test pattern?

What?

:(

but I didn't get it, either. :shrug:



Some people don't get Monty Python. That's okay, too.









It's sad that they'll never know the joy of pantomime horses as secret agents, though.

And I loved it because the situations were so f'n weird they were far too real.

I though I was the only person who hated that show. I could never figure out why I should care about the stupid people.

..who watched (and liked) the show.

The reseachers found that folks who like Seinfeld have an average IQ that's
17 points higher than the people that didn't care for the show.

:rofl:

much like Curb Your Enthusiams, Seinfeld was a show written for a demographic consisting mainly of Jews living on the upper west side of Manhattan (before you flame, you will note that I am this demographic)

There were so many inside UWS jokes that I was always kind of shocked at how popular it was in the rest of the country. I thought it was great, and I like Curb even better.

Yorkers, who can identify with the characters. Maybe that's why Regis Philbin loved it. Mostly it was just weird, especially towards the end of the series. If you only watched the last year of it, you would undoubtedly say, "What is this? Why is this show so highly rated?" If it was ever funny, it was only in the first couple of years, then it took a steep downhill decline.

doesn't necessarily mean it was bad, no?

:shrug:

and you get it, but don't think it's particularly funny, you still got it. The Brazilian joke was not all that funny, but I still got it. Seinfeld was mainly just an endless series of trivial situations - at least they got it right when they said it was "the show about nothing," because it really was about nothing more than trivial oddities of living in New York. I suppose someone who lives that life might identify with the situations and characters and laugh out loud about it, but I never laughed out loud. That doesn't mean I didn't get it. I have liked some of the jokes that Jerry Seinfeld did in his standup specials, and he has said some funny things on the talk shows and SNL, but his sitcom just didn't make me laugh. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

that because you couldn't identify with the characters and the situations that they were in, that perhaps you didn't actually "get it"? If the entire point of a joke is one's recognition of a time, or a place, or a moment, then it seems to me that through no particular fault of its own, the joke would be lost on someone who hadn't shared the experiences of the target demographic. I don't think it's at all the same as the Brazilian joke--"getting seinfeld" is not simply a measure of one's intellectual ability to understand the logic of the jokes.

I imagine it's very similar to how I don't find Prairie Home Companion particularly funny. I'm pretty sure I understand what the joke is, but it's not applicable to my life and so to me, it's just kind of boring. So in that case, I would say I don't really get it.

FOR YOU. Yes, I get it. So what. What's funny about it? Master of your domain - Yes, I get it. People masturbate. Kramer couldn't take it any longer. Oh, that's so funny. Hardy har har har. Man hands. Oh I'm just rolling on the floor with laughter. Dropping a Junior Mint into an operating theater. Oh it's so funny, I can't stand this any more. Make it stop, make it stop. Kramer's "bro." Yeah so what. Please wake me up later. "Seinfeld" as the best TV comedy of all time, according to TV Guide? Now THAT's funny.

You're the arbiter of what's funny. My mistake.

So the 'Seinfeld' police are still on the payroll, I see, even after the show stopped production like 4 years ago or whatever? So I'm busted for saying 'Seinfeld' wasn't funny.

Not quite. It's interesting, though, that you are getting so defensive. I certainly wasn't criticizing you. I am curious to know why you keep on insisting that you are capable of unilaterally determining whether something is funny, though. Are you seriously incapable of grasping the concept that *you* don't find to be funny and yet there is still the *possibility* that your opinion does not define what is humorous?

show I've ever seen. Even after I've seen all the episodes more times than I can count, I still laugh. And, IMHO, its best seasons were probably 4-8.

but if the whole "show within a show" - about how Jerry and George are trying to sell a show about nothing is the last year, then yes, that whole theme was pretty lame.

But some of the other episodes were quite hilarious. Like when Kramer adopts a section of the highway, or the story of the "magic loogie" or when Jerry goes to buy a car and Kramer takes one salesman on a Thelma and Louise test drive and George gets a Twix stuck in the candy machine and keeps obsessing about it. Or when Jerry's dad gets impeached.

Hee hee

:D

Every line was funny. It was beyond hilarious! Loved every episode!

At least I thought so.

Seinfeld did not.

Mostly, Imo, the good far outweighed the bad.

The bad being the final 2 episodes of the series definitely among them. Those final 2 were a big letdown.

You're right Terry. The final episode was stupid.

Yeah, i know, i know. The concept was that in a "show about nothing" they went to jail for "doing nothing". Still stupid. Even with a law on the books like that, (which would be unconsitutional and unenforceable), there would be no jail time involved.

The concept was so vacuous it sent the show off on a sour note.
The Professor

I thought it was a pretty brilliant way to wrap up the show, but I have come to the conclusion that I am perhaps the only living person who thinks so.

I'm curious, because I find that about 90% of teevee sucks, but not Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Lost, or Arrested Development.

No elaboration needed.

BTW: How ya doin' pal?
The Professor

:shrug:

Like the scene in Cheers where Norm was pitying a poor slob without a life who sat next to him in the bar all day...

That's ok.

It's too damned funny. I LOVE Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

:rofl:

I don't get what's not to like :shrug:

You are however, entitled to your opinion....
"That's why Chasen's had menus"

"Hey,Kid,did you hear Denny thought Jerry's show sucked ?"
"Must think WE blew-the-big-load, then,Hmmmmm?"

All in the Family

Yup, a lot of it was silly but that's part of the package in a sitcom I guess. I've seen ever episode (I think) and laughed every time and can watch repeats and still enjoy it.

But to each his or her own. It's not possible to appeal to everyone. :)

The masturbation episode was funny, though.

I don't like him as a comedian, but the show rocked. Who can't help but laugh when George is pushing the Frogger machine through traffic with that annoying game music playing....that was funny.

I don't get how anyone can think The Simpsons, Family guy, Southpark or any of them other animated pieces of tripe are funny.

flame away if you must....lol

Some eps were good, some were great, some were stupid.

The show did take risks tho, which gives it a gold star in my book.

And it is better than 99% of the crap on now.

I found every character tremendously annoying, myself.

The writing seems obvious... now. But when it started there were no shows out there like it. And you're looking for subtle acting in a TV sitcom? Jean Stapleton was great, but she wasn't subtle. And unrealistic situations are the bread and butter of any sitcom--Seinfeld was wayyy more realistic than most, especially in the beginning.

Funniest character on a sitcom ever. He could just gesture and I'd be crying with laughter.

:(

Actually, I never ever watched Seinfeld when it was on originally. I started watching Curb Your Enthusiasm and loved it so I started watching Seinfeld in reruns. I still like Curb better, but when I watch Seinfeld I just think of George as Larry, (since he pretty much is), and it cracks me up.

Oh well. It's not for everyone, tastes differ, etc. I mean, I hate "Friends" so...yeah.

I, of course, had no idea when the show was actually on because no one knew who LD was. However, I've become a big CYE fan (moreso than Seinfeld), and I love the Steinbrenner eps cause its LD. (He also has a couple walk-on cameos in a few of the other episodes.)

Tell me. Are the sheets dry now? If so, what do you mean by that? :D

p.s. Seinfeld is so-so. Curb Your Enthusiasm is better. And as long as you don't like that John Hughes crap, you're ok in my book. :thumbsup:

it was supposed to be so funny. I didn't laugh.

Awful acting, the characters were such complete assholes that i just hated them, the situations weren't funny. I have never understood the appeal.

It always seemed to me the basic Seinfeld plot had to do with someone uncool who wanted to be associated in some way or another with the cool gang of main characters. That dynamic got repeated & varied over & over again.

I never liked that show.

It was completely vacuous.

and I am not sure I would say it has anything to do with intelligence, but there are certain types of humor that only specific people tend to understand. Most of this involves absurdity. It's seeing beyond the superficial. Of course Seinfeld was vacuous. That was the point - to illustrate the absurdity of human behavior! It's absolutely brilliant!

And there are other programs/films that fall under the same category, such as The Royal Tenenbaums, Arrested Development, Strangers with Candy. Inevitably you will meet people who just don't see the humor in any of these. But they are all essentially about the absurdity of everything and what ridiculous creatures we humans actually are.

How could you not laugh at Kramer?

Seinfeld was funny. Jerry Seinfeld himself - a terrible actor. But that show was about character - and the surrounding cast - the Costanzas, the Seinfelds, & Newman, are fantastic comic actors. Of the core cast, George used to make me completely irritated, but now i appreciate the genius of the character.

now that its 10 years old, the clothes are absolutely hilarious. Kramer is the only decent dresser on the show.

... you meant "flame war" like that?

people, I found him mildly annoying. But I did enjoy when they went to jail.

:P

I think Seinfeld's show was one of the funniest sitcoms ever. The acting was genius, I especially loved the George character. And no, I'm not a New Yorker!

The show I HATED was "Friends." I don't understand what was so good about that show...

I lived on the East Coast for nine years, and while I liked it for the most part, there was a certain self-absorbed and obsessive personality type that drove me up the wall. They were precisely the people who could go on for a half hour about their nipple being visible in a photograph, as Elaine did in one episode.

Over the years I heard lots of shit about having never seen Seinfeld. Finally I was trapped somewhere when a rerun was on and I sat through it.

My original decision not to waste the time was validated. I can't say that it was even mildly amusing.

And if you didn't find that funny, you just take yourself waaay too seriously. Not that I haven't noticed that about DUers before...

Elaine was so dumbfounded by it.

And George was so emabarrassed that she did find out about it.

I loved that show, it was just sooooooo New Yawkish.

LoL

I guess it's one of the shows where you like the humor or you don't. I agree with a previous poster that there's a Seinfeld quote for every weird moment in life. And somehow, I can relate to each of the characters at one point or another (and I'm a neurotic NYC-suburbanite). You're free to say you don't like the show, but if this were a dictatorship and I were the dictator, saying "Seinfeld sucks!" would incur a stiff fine (and I'd still be a more compassionate dictator than Dubya. :) )

"The correct answer is the Moops."

:rofl: :rofl: Still slays me.


"Yeah, I'm out - I'm out of the contest!"

"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to return soup at a deli!"

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Puddy: Elaine, they forgot to deliver your paper today. Why don't you just grab that one.

Elaine: 'Cause that belongs to Mr. Potato Guy, that's his.

Puddy: C'mon, get it.

Elaine: Well if you want it, you get it.

Puddy: Sorry, thou shalt not steal.

Elaine: Oh, but it's ok for me?

Puddy: What do you care, you know where you're going.

Elaine: Alright, that is it! I can't live like this.

Puddy: Nah.

Elaine: C'mon.

Puddy: Alright, what did I do?

Elaine: David, I'm going to hell! The worst place in the world! With devils and those caves and the ragged clothing! And the heat! My god, the heat! I mean, what do you think about all that?

Puddy: Gonna be rough.

:rofl: :rofl:

That's all you got to do