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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:07 PM
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Why I believe the Rapture hasn't happened yet
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 10:08 PM by ck4829
God's been trying to do the rapture for a while now, but they went digital last year. And God doesn't know how to work the tubes on the Internets work so he called up Tech Support, but that didn't help, so unless God reads "Internets for Dummies", don't expect the Rapture to happen anytime soon.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:09 PM
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1. all the tech support staff are Hindu
so what the hell do they know about it?
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:19 PM
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4. Yep, the Rapture's been outsourced.
On the plus side, there's a Hell of a lot less people in India now.

:)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:12 PM
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2. Maybe God just took a real good, hard long look at the Rapturees
and decided to rethink the whole thing.

Would you want to spend eternity with Jerry Falwell and James Dobson? Would you want to be in the heavenly media room and have Dobson constantly asking you if he could rewind that scene in 'The Passion of the Christ' where they beat the holy heck out of His Son? (This makes God mutter under his breath, 'you are one sick bastard Dobson. You know those aren't pleasant memories for me. Insensitive freak.')
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:13 PM
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3. You may be right but I prefer to believe
it hasn't happened yet because ITS ALL BULLSHIT AND IT AIN'T EVER GONNA HAPPEN!
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:21 PM
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5. Hah - just wait until next Tuesday!
Or is it Wednesday? Anyway, I'm going to Jesusland and your going to burn in hell! Bwahahahhah!

:evilgrin:
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:15 PM
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8. Can I have your car? n/t
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:43 PM
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35. I'm too stupid to drive, so I don't have one, but you can have my
collection of Jesus sculptures made out of cheese.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. Hey smirkymonkey
I didn't know that you were good at cutting the cheese
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:25 PM
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6. If Dobson and Falwell were raptured it would be a great comfort.
Especially when I am still here it would be proof I would not spend eternity with this version of human slime.

Amazing the mythology people accept as divine truth.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:05 PM
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7. I think it's because God is laughing his ass off watching these morans
run around like total dumbass'es spewing rapture crap. But it may also be because he just does not want the assholes anywhere near him!
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:19 PM
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9. Stop being bigots.
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 11:21 PM by Reckon
Do you think it's any different cracking jokes about Christians than it is cracking jokes about gay?
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:34 PM
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13. Well, strictly speaking...
...cracking jokes about rapturemaniacs isn't cracking jokes about "Christians" as a whole. There are plenty of Christians who aren't rapturemaniacs.

It's equivalent to cracking jokes about (for example) JUST those members of the Israeli government and the citizenry who support them who believe they can achieve "security" by indiscriminately bombing civilian neighborhoods in a non-belligerent neighboring country in the hopes of nailing a few rocket-launching criminals.

Or cracking jokes about (for example) JUST those Democrats who supinely buy into GOPpie-sponsored horse puckey about "WMDS in Iraq" while they fill their campaign coffers with big money presents from corporate shills, and then act all surprised when they get a primary challenge.

Get it?

pedantically,
Bright
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:44 PM
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14. So it's ok crack jokes about blacks or gays as long as their repubs?
I'm just trying to stop this because I know many Dem Christians and I fear they are getting driven away.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:54 PM
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16. Don't worry about it. I are one of them and I ain't worried...
...or offended in the least.

Rapturemania is to Christianity as NAMBLA is to PFLAG.

Get it NOW?

patiently,
Bright
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:57 PM
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18. People who HONESTLY BELIEVE that they're going to be "beamed up"
a la Star Trek any moment now, so that the rest of us Fornicators, Masturbators, Gays, Jews and other heathen folk can await being cast off into the fiery furnace?

Sorry, Jack. They're fair game. Dare I say it, they're ripe for some jokes.

So are the people who honestly believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Who are stubbornly in denial about evolution- or global warming- despite mountains of scientific evidence.

You know what? If these folks' beliefs were just about them, I might be inclined to agree that we should cut them some slack. But it's not. They're not. These "Left Behind" maniacs are writing our foreign policy. The gang that thinks stem cells have "souls" are keeping my relative with Cerebral Palsy from potential cures. I'm "bigoted" for making fun of the religious right? The day they leave my nation's secular Constitution, my sex life, my kids' public school curriculum, my government's science policy, my end of life decisions, and my wife's uterus out of their religious "Scheme", then that's the day I'll stop cruelly making fun of them.

Feh.

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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:06 AM
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20. So you think we're going to gain support by being bigots?
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 12:13 AM by Reckon
You probably hurt the Dem party if anything.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:17 AM
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23. Argument #2: We're alienating "values voters"!
Nope. Never heard that one before.

Sorry. I think the people who read the 'Left Behind' books, the folks who think Gays are all going straight to hell, the gang that believes fertilized eggs deserve full rights under the 14th amendment- we're not going to woo them under any circumstances.

Certainly not just by getting people like me to shut up, or getting DU to stop making fun of right-wing fundamentalists.

Actually, if you're interested, I know a better way we could broaden our party, and it doesn't involve throwing our commitments to gays, reproductive rights, or the Separation of Church and State under a trainload of phony Jesus-based pandering. Rather than wooing "values voters" who are already over-marketed to, I say we go after the millions of politically unaffiliated, socially libertarian, educated urban voters who can't make up their mind which party is more interested in micro-managing their lives. Instead of running away from being pro-choice, expand it to say that what a consenting adult does with his or her own body is none of the government's business- period- and whatever we do, don't apologize for it. Explain to people, even Christians, that the Separation of Church and State is an American, Patriotic Value. Want to talk more values? Great. 45 Million Americans with no health insurance is a MORAL travesty.

I'm not a bigot. No matter what I say or do, I'm not going to be trying to pass laws telling Christian Fundamentalists what they can do with their own bodies, which gender they can have sex with, what birth control options they can have access to. I'm not going to be trying to force their Churches to teach Darwin, even as they try to shoehorn religion into public school science classes.

That's bigotry.



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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:58 PM
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38. You just stated my personal platform
Leftists don't vote. Peace activists don't vote, gay rights activists don't vote, tree huggers don't vote. Let's work at bringing THOSE groups into the Dem party instead of reaching to the far right. If we had a truly inclusive party and included the far left, we would win elections. Damn it is so obvious it just makes me sick that the Dem party doesn't realize it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:54 PM
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37. Who wants them in our party?
I am so sick of moderate Dems saying we need to reach to the right or move to the center. Moving to the center is moving to the right. And I will fight that with every breath I have.

There is nothing in the Dem platform that appeals to talibornagains. They are not Dems, will never be Dems, and this talk of appeasing them is utterly foolish and a complete waste of time. Let them stay in the repuke party and let that party implode from within from appeasing to these idiots. The day they become Dems is the day I leave the party.

Sorry but I hate these religious freaks as much as I hate the neocons.
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:01 PM
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40. What you may not understand is
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 05:03 PM by Reckon
about half of the Dem voters (that already actually vote) consider themselves Christian whether practicing or not. Your rhetoric only drives swing voters away. If your wish is that they vote repub then I question your thinking. I have the common sense to support the left leaning Christians that are TRYING to take a stand against the hate filled fundies. I'm glad to see it because if religion gets taught in school you better hope half of them are moderates.

If I had my choice I would ban the hatemongers from public policy. They're what's wrong with the world today. One set of haters fighting another set of haters. It's primitive thinking for cave people.

Another I'm not happy with is the narrow minded religion / anti-religion thought police. They have a problem with what other people think and believe. The thought police should focus on bettering themselves and stop attacking others because of different beliefs.

Teaching tolerance is the foundation of the Democratic party and is the key to peace and prosperity.

I'm wondering why the Left-leaning Christians should work their tail off with grassroots voter registration, etc, etc, for people that spew hate toward them? It's because we're in struggle to save our Country from hatemongers. <--- that's serious. Wisdom would say to put differences with Left-leaning Christians aside. WE do not think the earth is flat, WE love liberty, WE think everyone makes their own choices in life! But that could all change if the haters succeed.

You think like you're talking to a single Left-leaning Christian, but you're talking to a multitude, so please, teach tolerance.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:24 PM
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42. The Christian Dems I know
are repulsed by the taliborbagains. This is not about tolerance; it's about refusing to allow the religious right to run this country or dictate their beliefs to the rest of us. It is tolerant of American values to fight the talibornagains.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:14 AM
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21. Can I get an "Amen!"
Great post!

I'm Pagan, and I know plenty of people think my beliefs are wacky. That's fine. Freedom to practice them is the point. Freedom to force them on the whole country--well, I don't want that, and I feel no obligation to "respect" the beliefs of those who do.

People want to believe in the Rapture? That's fine. There are people who believe 'The Lord of the Rings' is true and base their religion on that. No skin off my nose--but if they ran all three branches of our government and tried to convince me some other country was Mordor and we needed to go to war with them because It Is Written, and it's OK if I wind up nearly-dying in some supernatural volcano eruption over there because giant eagles will rescue my ass, I'm going to have a problem! And I would use every non-violent weapon I have against them, starting with satire.

It would be mean to pick on them if they were underdogs. But they are most certainly not - they are powerful, and malicious, and dangerous. And they need to be laughed at early and often.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #21
24. I agree 100%. But I still say Ann Coulter is looking awfully Gollumish
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 01:39 AM
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33. Precioussss....
she needs to lay off the meth, er, I mean, Ring.
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:33 AM
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32. We need kind people like yourself. A uniter not divider.
I totally agree with your post. To each his own and total separation of Church and state.

I really don't care what anybody thinks as long as they don't drive people away. We need all the help we can get.

I wish we could stop all the hate. Maybe we'll get lucky and all the hatemongers will be Raptured. :)
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 01:46 AM
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34. Dunno if I was really all that kind...
...I totally agree that coalition-building is always the ideal. It's hard to find common ground with people who take every opportunity to tell me that I and everyone I like is going to Hell, and seems so pleased with the prospect, though.

If all the hatemongers get Raptured, that would be the best outcome for everyone. Except God, who'll be stuck with them.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:49 PM
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36. These talibornagains bring it on themselves
Have you been to the Rapture Ready board? They are friggin insane. Clueless, and they misinterpret the bible.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:03 PM
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43. I'm a Christian, and I'm laughing my ass off!
:rofl:

Tears rolling down my face.

Nope, not offended at all. The rapturemaniacs are nutso.
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:19 PM
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10. Because the idea of the rapture is BULLSHIT!!!
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:23 PM
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11. So what, then don't believe it.
Don't be as big a bigot as the fundies.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:33 PM
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12. No one's knocking Christians. I'm Catholic and we don't believe in this
Rapture crap.

So sue me.
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:51 PM
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15. Then that would be like people cracking jokes about
Catholic beliefs. You might not care but I'm sure other Catholics do so I would respect that.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:55 PM
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17. Hahahahahahahahah!!! You don't know Catholicism very well, do you?
Catholics always tell the best Catholic jokes.

amusedly,
Bright
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:05 AM
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19. Amen to that, Tygr Bright. (nt)
:D
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #15
22. Go yell at any stand up comedian or movie writer (Kevin Smith)
who cracked a joke at Catholics.

Grow some thicker skin, dude. I'm Jewish. . .I've heard all the Jewish jokes. I laugh at them all.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:32 AM
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31. You clearly lack a sense of humor.
Here, I was raised Catholic and I'll tell you a Catholic joke:

Q What do you have whenever you have four Catholics in a room?


















A a fifth

:beer:










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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #12
39. I was raised Catholic
and I left the church over this kind of crap. You are mistaken, many Catholics DO indeed believe in this rapture crap. I remember learning about it in Catholic elementary school in the 1960s. And I belonged to a fairly liberal Catholic parish. That parish today has weekly classes on the rapture. It is taking hold of many many Catholics. Really. My uncle is a priest and he can tell you horror stories about these crazy rapture Catholics and how they are destroying the church. So fasten your seatbelt, cause if you don't see it in your Catholic community yet, it's only a matter of time.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:21 AM
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28. not all Christians believe in Rapture.
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 12:22 AM by LSK
Is it even in the bible anywhere?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #11
29. I don't believe a fertilized egg is the moral equivalent of a "baby"
Yet that doesn't stop the fundies from trying to make that the law of the land.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:19 AM
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25. so its not happening next Tuesday???
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:20 AM
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26. Tuesday's not good for me. Can we do Thursday afternoon, instead?
Have Jesus's people call my people.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:21 AM
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27. just make sure you give me your car by monday night
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 12:24 AM
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30. Here it is. The mileage leaves a little to be, um, desired.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 05:03 PM
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41. Alternative explanation: there may be no gods.
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 05:03 PM by Zhade
If there are, perhaps there's been no rapture because it's something a nutjob made up in the 1800s.

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