Really Disturbing Commercial

this couple are walking down this street and the man shouts out telling the world that he loves her, and the woman is like shut the f**k up idiot, than he pulls out a diamond ring and she's all like i love you, i doint know about you, but i find this wrong, and the gesture of telling the world you love a woman is more romantic than giveing her rocks mined by african slaves and sold by terrorists.

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is vapid and pointless to anyone with 1/2 a brain.

I thought to myself, I wonder if that diamond was smuggled by a slave in his rectum only to be shot in the back while running away by armed rebels.

i'd like to take out ad's in the paper right next to jewelry ad's that have news stories about slave labou being used to mine diamonds, then see how women react, and how the diamond market reacts.

historic place in Europe. So, the ugly, loud-mouthed American jerk once again declaims to the world that HE and his RUDENESS are more important for one and all to experience than the historic place.

Yep, I hate that f*ckin commercial.

i'd go to the highest mountain and shout her name out for all to hear

you'd disturb few people by screaming her name. That wouldn't bother me...or anyone else.

The commercial sux.

i would however take out ad's in the paper, and if i had the money a billboard

Maybe it's just the bad acting, but I was totally creeped out by it.

thatthe more money you dump into something, the more she will like it, its scocial engeneering at its finest

the more she'll like you.

To me the message of the commercial is that just loving someone and letting them know that isn't enough, you must buy your loved one very expensive things so that they'll accept your love and love you back in return. I was really turned off by the commerical when I saw it.

Pretty sad really.

diamonds are a girl's best friend.

;-)

(disclaimer- i have not seen the ad)

Nothing like my best friend . . .

Of course, I have a loving, stable husband who doesn't need grand displays to show me his feelings.

I have never really thought diamonds were a particularly alluring gem; the way they are obtained just makes it worse.

Mikimoto pearls, OTOH . . . (swoon)

...seeping into television. All that "reality" television that encourages average Americans to think of themselves as petty, money-grubbing and undeserving.

Its no accident Fox affiliates used to show COPS just before Rush Limbaugh. A nice, edgy lower/middle-class fearfest before you get to hear the soothing voice of the one who will make all the cheap, craven baddies go away.

Have you seen the humvee commercial where they play "Happy Jack" by The Who where the kid in the biggest soap box car cheats to get to the finish line? You want to talk about what is wrong with the mentality of these RW nuts in this country- that POS commercial typifies it IMO!

Everyone else laughs at him, but he goes OFF THE COURSE and beats them? Yeah, I seen it. Smug little punk will probably be in White-Collar prison by the time he's 30. Maybe his wife will give him a little something she caught from the cabana boy...

Man I hate that commercial esp since I happen to like that song!

besides, i thought all those things were straight downhills, and i f it were me, i'd be in the plywood h1 with the swim feature crossing a river and beating him

You bring DeBeers...

(old National Lampoon joke from many moons ago!)

she wants him to shut up and stop embaressing her until he pulls out the ring, then she loves him... shallow materialistic jerks.

I hope someday synthetic diamonds make it really big on the market, so they drive "real" diamond industry into the ground.

they will move to the defense sector, diamons is the hardest material on earth, they could make some strong vests with it

hardness is the measure of how easily it can be scratched, if I shoot a huge chunk of diamond (the size and thickness of a police vest) it'll shatter and go through, along with diamond shrapnel...

now, if you could make very cheap, very thin sheets of synthetic diamonds (i don't think the crystal structure will alow this though) you could use them as a coating for cars making them scratch resistant.

a spider silk that is much stronger that steel in tensil strength, trust me, i got a face full of it once, and this silk is being looked into for armor. the spider is the female golden orb spider, by the way

You lean on the car and it cracks. The bodywork HAS to be flexible.

...as a gesture of a man's love for his girlfriend or S.O.
Every man can buy a diamond ring, that is not something special just because you can afford a big ass shiny rock.
Do something for me that I know is from YOU- show me you know ME and aren't just trying to blind me into marrying you JUST BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT A BIG SHINY ASS ROCK!!!
/rant

any day over diamonds.

A corporate conspiracy to create crummy customs in our culture.

"ask your jeweler about the 3 month salary guideline"

LOL who the fuck came up with that guideline??

I say we run an ad that says something like

"a million bucks to hire an architect" along with a law that says everyone must hire at least one architect in their lifetime (or 10?) should be the order of the day.

Hey, I can be selfish too!

Don't even GET ME STARTED on the requirement to have auto insurance!
If it weren't a requirement, insurance rates would drop outta site overnite. And over half the population is driving around uninsured anyhow.

More government mandated corporate welfare.

There was a book, probably long since out of print, called "The American Way of Wedding." It's probably 25 years old now, but I read it as a teenager. One of the chapters discussed the ring.

The idea came from a daimond marketing consortium--I know, you are so surprised. Completely arbitrary; one month wouldn't have generated enough profit, one year was too over the top, etc.

Why people can't see through such obvious manipulation just makes me crazy. Now people take it as a long, honorable tradition.

I was engaged before I knew how diamonds are obtained--I had to talk my lover OUT of the 3 months thing. I have a timy, flawless, beuatiful little stone (I still wear it). We spent our money on our honeymoon--in Maui.

This guy very vocally, publicly professes his love for his woman, and that's supposed to be a bad thing. Oh, but give her a shiny, expensive object, and that's much better. Symbol over substance, as dictated by the advertocracy, once again.

the women i hve gone out with have seen through that crap

The first thing we learn in commercial 101 is the more people talk, good or bad, the better the job we did! Thank you for your support! Now Back to regularly scheduled rant! (hehe! I had to add that!)

when i crack down on thier asses for the slavery thing

See ad men don't care about it and after that commercial they have already moved on to a pie crust spot! See we just do the spots! As long as you have noticed it we did our part! And when you go slaming it... well, let's just say we sing in the money due to the fact that we get another job combating your stuff! So ad men just win! Unless you don't pay attintion to what the add is saying, then were up a creek!!!

til the people start demonizeing advertizers, we might even have you guys putting nails in your own coffins

Evryone knows that we just sell stuff. We do our thing and thats that. We are used by big business to try and make them look good and not polluting and then we get paid by greenpeace to show that they are.

are only one rung under repubs, its all aboutthe money, you hardly contribute to scociety positively, and are paid absurdly for it, i know a guy who runs a local ad firm, and he is rich, this man personally disgusts me, not because hes rich and an open rebub, but because of how he acts. He is verry hypocritical, and thinks only of his pocket book. I once allmost killed this man.

hehe!

Think of it this way. We are like debateors, we can believe one way and yet, make a darn good case for the other side.

but unlike the news wich, when not corrupted is important, advertiseing serves no purpose but to make money, where news is informative and productive

PSA's, Campain ads, even product ads tell you things. They tell you whats out there and where to get it and how.

but look at the drug PSA's and campaign ads now are all attack ad's,the system for commercials on that level are all goverment funded, and ad's do inform you of whats out there,but they are now becomeing indeciperable 30 second comedies

Crawling back into my little cubby now.

No offense intended, none taken, I hope?

KNOW they are going to cause talk with the ad--in the case of "brands," for instance, Nike, no product is sold but the brand gets a boost by the talking up at the water cooler.

I remember that too, but no one should be feeling guilty. I don't think anyone is going to run out and by a diamond from this thread.

are much more disturbing.

Has anyone else noticed that the cost of prescription drugs has gone up alongside the frequency of these idiotic commercials??
That is much more offensive to ME and to my wallet. I could give a crap if some guy wants to act a fool in public and buy a diamond for his woman, no matter where that diamond comes from.

But if this really does bother you that much, I saw this commercial the other day about a new drug for anxiety . . . . .

drug companies have stated that commercials for thier drugs have made them more expensive, now, i have a question, why would they make commercials for prescription drugs, its the doctors decision, not the patients and i think these commercials should be banned

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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but pharm. cos. pay for doctors "business trips," office equipment, etc. Pharmacists (my sis is one) get coffee cups (they can't prescribe, in fact, they often catch doctor's errors) while my PCP gets a water cooler emblazoned with the word Paxil (or some such thing).

I just got prescribed a questionable new drug that does a slightly more effective job than one I was already taking, but at considerably more risk. Thing is, the damn thing isn't yet covered by ANY medical insurance company.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm . . .

the comercial wasnt ment for any sort of political message or anything close to that. sure, ive seen the comercial, its been on every holiday season for years. and even now and then through the rest of the year. it is a stupid comercial and annoys me. but really, i dont think the diamond add executives work on that many levels to work in a political message in 30 seconds on top of a business message. its ment to increase sales, nothing more. with the added side affect of annoyance. dont read too deep into it. time can be better spent elsewhere.

-LK

to prescription drug commercials, wich are costing people alot of money for something that shouldent be

if its expensive just cause thier buying air time. screw that i dont wanna pay for thier comercials. i dont think we need to limit comercials, just make generics available sooner, just as good, and a helluva lot cheaper, these guys need to stop profiting from disease, thats not a market you should corner, its people's freakin lives.

-LK

drugs companies are that, COMPANIES, the bottom line is money, if we abolished drug companies and create a goverment drug research bureau (one of the FEW things i actually WANT the goverments hands in) the costs would go down significantly with drug controll laws that limnit the sale of a drug to the bare minimum, and the drugs wont be made just to see stocks rise, they will be made to actually cure people, take AIDS for example, if "miracle" and"experimental" drugs werent so profitable there would probably be a cure by now

and how much it favored drug companies, i wouldnt feel comfortable with that kinda thing in THIS administrations' hands, i'd have no problems with it under a democratic admin or hell even a different right winger, just not a neo-con with friends in the drug buisness, not a good combo. but gov control would be ok with me as long as it was bipartisan.

-LK

NON-partasan, they shoould exist just to research and develop drugs to cure people, drug companies only think of profits

not wholesale repub controlled, as most big companies, including drug companies are now. this should go for anything, really, a difference in point of view is the father of progress, and well, arguements.

-LK

medicine can be critical, and shouldent be with held cause jeb bush is makeing a profit from it, the goverment should judst set up and fund the research, than just back the hell away

I wouldn't relate it the way you did, though. She tells him to be quiet because he's loud and making a scene. So he gives another token of his love.

I'm down with the whole "diamonds are just payment for services" argument, and most diamond commercials fall into that category (as well as most traditional trappings of romance), but there is true love, and sometimes giving a symbol of that love is the best way to express it. It's about the only commercial I've seen that works that way.

But then again, I'm married, so love and romance are far beyond my recent experiences.

you need a good romance novel

are truly disturbing!

not as disturbing as Furi Kuri tho

Haven't seen her around for a while.

Of course, I have had the miserable luck of dating only men w/ severe allergies to jewelry stores.

I've had to buy myself whatever jewelry I own. It'd be sweet to have someone who though enough of me to think "hey, she likes that stuff. Maybe I'll get her something nice."

they are everywhere these days! All I can think of is African villagers with limbs missing. :-(

If a woman only perks up when you give her trinkets, run away. Far, far away!

come up with a gem. Find me a great, inexpensive piece of art or a great, hard to find CD, and I'll be all over my husband (sorry) like a wet towel.

like giving someone "blood diamonds" means love, repulsive. :wtf: :grr: :mad:

DeBeers can go to hell.

I cringe because I know the history behind those shiny baubles. There is a billboard right by my house that says, "Sighs matters" and next to it is a large diamond ring.

If more people only knew...

LOL

Daimonds are just about totally useless now; even industrial diamonds are being foregone in favor of synthetics.

It seems to me it could be very effective--after all, diamond prices are artificially high, they are almost completely a success through clever marketing (hardly the most beautiful or even rarest gem).

Lady Freedom, could we enlist you in a campaign, perchance???

They should combine ad campaigns for different products.

In this case, he brings out the diamond, and she replies that he should have gotten her fajitas.

I love it!

Or, he shouts "I love this woman!" Voiceover: "Can you hear me now?"

hugs him AFTER he gives her jewelry and says,"I love this man". Blech. Give me the hug without the jewelry and it means more.

...as anything the Nazis pasted on the lamp posts back in the 30's. And no, I don't consider this hyperbole.

I finally got it, but the lack of punctuation makes it very confusing.

Anyway, I personally can't consider the political implications of EVERY purchase I make. It would make it nigh on impossible to live in a near-unfettered capitalist society like ours.

How about the Lexus commercials where people surprise their S/O by giving them a car!

Man if that isn't the height of conspicuous consumerism. How many married couples would make a decision to buy a car without it being a completely joint decision?

I'll tell you how many. Just the few thousand for whom buying a Lexus is pocket change. For the rest of us, the message is, "if you really cared about your spouse (S/O), you'd buy them a $50k without them knowing about it."

I HATE those commercials.
The Professor

"Remember, not all women are like that!" Don't be fooled!! Don't get sucked in!