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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:18 AM
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Merry Solstice
actually Solstice was the ORiginal reason for all the hoopla surrounding this time of year...based on...tada
the SUN coming back....so tommorrow, the sun comes back a little more, then a little more each day..
Guess the ancient peoples were keeping an eye on the sun ..anyway, I sure am tired of darkness and will be glad to see the damned SUN come back...
Bout dang time.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:19 AM
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1. Yes, the sun comes back!!!!
One of these days, it will no longer be pitch black when I leave work. Yay!!!!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:23 AM
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2. Merry Solstice to you too
:D

God, I hate winter. The lack of light has really weighed on me this year. I can't wait for spring.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:37 AM
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3. Every year I threaten to rent a billboard...
...and put a picture of the Earth Mother and the Horned God on it with a words "The God and Goddess...the real reason for the season."

I've also thought taht "The return of the Oak King...the true reason for teh season" would be nice too.

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:51 AM
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9. Not only that the early Christians did this.......
took Rome and its holidays and used them as a cover so we really used dates from them.Same with what things looked like. Holyland that we think we know and the people in it come right out of Italy and its people. The Church was the big guy in the field. It produced the art and writings. Early Puritans had nothing up for Xmas by-the-way.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:59 AM
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11. Celebrating Christmas was outlawed in MA
until about 1850, in fact.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:45 AM
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15. One of my favorite bumper stickers.
"The Christian Religion Has Pagan DNA"
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:38 AM
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4. 'Tis the REAL reason for the season!
Happy Solstice to all!
:toast:

To me, it's the most "human" holiday of them all - the triumph of humankind's knowledge over the unpredictability of the future. Our ancestors recognized the patterns, and knew the sun would come back, and on what day the night would be at its longest.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:48 AM
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5. I would have thought Beltane the most "human".
It is definately earthier, bit less "mystical" too.
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:24 AM
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6. How Druids will observe the solstice
"" The Winter Solstice ceremony of the Druid tradition is known as Alban Arthan-which can be poetically translated as "the light of Arthur" . Here Arthur is equated with the Sun-God who dies and is reborn as the Celtic "son of light"-the Mabon-at the Winter Solstice.
             The Name of this ceremony, therefore, encapsulates or epitomizes the essential theme of this rite. During the ceremony the apparent death of the sun is mourned, and then as the fire is lit at the actual or symbolic time of Solstice, the rebirth of the sun, and by association, the return of Arthur, is celebrated.
       This is an old act indeed. The Christian Nativity story is but a recent version of the theme of the sun's rebirth."

http://www.stonehengeusa.com/Events.htm

May we find sol-lace on the solstice!
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:34 AM
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7. Which Druids?
What Tradition? How old is the act, and what is the documentation for it?

Just curious.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:01 AM
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12. thanks for the information
My Cornish ancestors took the surname "Arthur" and I'm always interested in finding out more about the symbolism behind the once and future King.
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:27 PM
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16. ayeshahaqqiqa: more about the druids
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:36 AM
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8. Merry Solstice to you, too, if you don't mind it coming from a Christian.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:57 AM
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10. Merry Solstace
to all my Pagan friends. Happy Hannukah to my Jewish friends. Late Eid and Dulavi to my Muslim and Hindu friends.

As the light comes back in the sky in the northern hemisphere, let us hope that the light of reason comes back to the American people this year and we get a sane Democrat elected President without any electoral hanky-panky.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:06 AM
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13. Amen (again, if it doesn't offend you). That is just one of many things we
can all agree on.

I hope you won't begrudge me a Merry Christmas, also?! :hi:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:16 AM
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14. Same to you!
Here's some interesting links in case anyone is interested in reading up about the holiday:

A good overview
http://www.candlegrove.com/solstice.html#turta

Pagan roots and relationship to Christmas
http://www.circlesanctuary.org/pholidays/SolsticeArticle.html

Complete guide to a saturnalia ritual
http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/Saturnalia.html
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