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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:30 PM
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Sweet..... Bob Rock is gone. Rick Rubin producing new Metallica album!
Finally, a good producer, after 15 years of Bob Rock. Hopefully they can redeem themselves, even though they're a little long in the tooth for teen angst-rock.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 11:34 PM
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1. Say what you will about Bob Rock's production skills...
But the album he did with Paul Hyde ("Under The Volcano") back in the 80s is absolutely freakin' spectacular.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:39 AM
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2. He did a couple of albums with Hyde...
...back when they were "The Payola$". Their first album, "In a Place Like This", is a masterpiece of post-punk.

Rock is a better musician than a producer.

Personally, I'm pretty excited about Rubin's involvement; he's one of my favourite rock producers, along with Steve Albini and Butch Vig.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:20 AM
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5. Oh yeah...I love that album! I didn't know that Bob Rock had anything
to do with it.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:58 AM
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6. Yeah, I have some Payola$ stuff as well...
...but this was just credited to the two of them. I saw them open for The Hooters in...oh, 1986 or 1987. Should have been a huge hit.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 09:41 PM
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8. Technically that was a Payola$ album....
.... but basically Rock and Hyde took Dick Clark's advice to lose the name "Payola$" if they wanted to crack the US market. Clark said that too many programmers would want to avoid anything to do with the word "Payola".

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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 09:10 AM
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28. See, I never knew that...
Also looks as though they've started to work on a reunion album.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 05:34 AM
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27. Rock is a prick. When he started making big money as a producer

He dropped Hyde like a bad habit and Hyde
needed a break.

I dated Rock's sister once and she told me
she thought BR was a prick for dropping Hyde.

Plus he was a serial philanderer who never met
a women that didn't get pregnant by him after
a short introduction.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:00 AM
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3. I don't think he's bad, but I partly agree
I love Bob Rock's work with Veruca Salt and Nina Gordon, and he produced Metallica's Black Album, which is good. But I do think Metallica needs a change, and Rick Rubin has mostly been on a roll lately. He'd be a good one to get them out of a rut.
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Mr. Blonde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:37 AM
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4. Even if he weren't a great producer
I would still have to dig someone who looks like this




And has Johnny Cash and Danzig on his label. That is one of the sweetest things ever.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:00 PM
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7. Sweetness....
another Metallica album...the Yankee's lose against Detriot, and UT beats Oklahoma...god, I must be in dead, or sleeping...somebody pinch me, just to make sure I'm not dreaming...:)
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 10:05 PM
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9. wow. that should be interesting.
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 10:07 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
neither Rubin nor Metallica have done anything noteworthy in a decade. It's like complimentary washed out artists, cant wait to see what happens! They can call the album 1986 or something, to hearken back to the days when they were both relevant!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:51 PM
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10. I'm grooving on the irony of your nick right now....
...So, like, was your dad in Soundgarden or something? :P
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:59 PM
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14. lol
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 06:01 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
yeah. my spiritual guru Kim Thayil. ;)

oh I get the irony NOW! I forgot he did an Audioslave album duhh!

And, i rest my case. . . :)
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:55 PM
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12. Rubin did the great Dixie Chicks album Taking The Long Way,
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 05:56 PM by mvd
plus inventive stuff with Johnny Cash. I'm sure there's more I could mention.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:59 PM
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15. ok. you got me. Rubin did wonders with Johnny Cash. my bad.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:01 PM
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17. The Dixie Chicks album might be my fave of the year
Might not be everyone here's favorite style, but it certainly is mine.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:02 PM
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18. i've only heard that single they have with the video. But i have to admit
it's a great jam, very passionate. I won't ever disparage the DC's, they are definitely solid.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:06 PM
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20. I'm a very proud DC supporter
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 06:07 PM by mvd
There's so much country I like where I have to stomach their political views - The DCs are refreshing. Yes, they are more pop and rock now, but they didn't leave the country sound behind completely.

:hi:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:39 PM
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22. heard any Jay Farrar or Son Volt?
I assume you have. Very good stuff there. Son Volt's first album is one of my all time favorites.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:15 PM
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23. Not much, but I liked what I heard
What's a good CD from them to start with? Thanks.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:36 PM
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24. Son Volt: Trace. masterpiece.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:57 PM
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13. The Mars Volta's "De-Loused In the Comatorium" is very noteworthy.
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 05:57 PM by primate1
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:59 PM
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16. good point. that is a good album.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:36 PM
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11. Careful. They'll sue you for using their name.
:eyes: Metallica used to be a good band, but then it got to be all about making money, and I started hating them. Musicians should care about two things: The music and their fans. All they care about is the money. There is no redemption for them in my opinion. Our local rock station renamed them "Old Greedy Balding Bastards". They're done, tired, need to go away.
Duckie
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:03 PM
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19. I'm usually not into the "they sold out" thing, but..
I really do not think Metallica has done anything good for a while. Then they were at the forefront of the anti-P2P movement.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 06:37 PM
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21. i wouldn't say they are beyond redemption.
one thing that was interesting about their Napster era embarassment, was that they were really voicing a lot of artists' concerns, other artists were sort of content to sit on the sidelines though and not get labelled as moneywhores.
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RiffRandell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:43 PM
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25. It doesn't matter. They are done.
I was a huge Metallica fan, and they have run their course.

Their past 2 albums sucked.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:59 PM
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26. I partially agree
St. Anger is absolute dreck. I've tried to listen to it, but haven't even made two complete passes yet.

But anybody who recorded "Whiplash", "Fade to Black", and "Damage Incorporated" shouldn't be completely written off.
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