Is sex work any more degrading than working for a soulless corporation

that treats you like a drone; that specifically doesn't want workers with some pride who can think for themselves, because they tend to get uppity and want some respect, some autonomy, and a decent paycheck? This is the corporation that would happily replace its employees with machines if it could, and will outsource all their jobs to a third-world country as soon as it is feasible to do so. Really, who is being degraded here?

Like I said, some sex work is degrading, but most forms of it aren't.

Being a drone in an office just doesn't have the unfair stigma that people attach to sex workers.

Is working for Wal-Mart degrading? It sounds like there is much about it that is.

I'm pretty damn positive that she'd have prefered to be a sex worker of some sort. She said it was the worst summer of her life, but her parents had moved to FL and when she went home on break, Wal-Mart was the only place to get a summer job in town.

Oh, and here's a :* for you.

I'm supposed to pass it on, but :* back atcha.

so I dunno.

But I do know from experience how Corp'rit Mer'ka can kill one's passion for one's profession.

No big surprises there. :D

just about any job situatio where I have to interact with other humans does though. There are about three exceptions to that in my life, one was a worker-owned collective, and two were locally owned natural foods stores. All the rest just made me want to jump off a bridge.

if it's a true choice and not a matter of exploitation. I get pretty dang tired of the government trying to protect us from our own bodies (abortion) while simultaneous protecting _others_ from our bodies (prohibition of prostitution). :grr:

and I know its not sex but some people consider it degrading. I've been told (hush) that I am good and I have collected cash for it on a couple of occasions. There were times that I daydreamed at work that I could easily dance for money but then the thought of my mom comes into mind - she would be the hell out of me.

1)I live in NC too.
2)I've been a stripper for 12 years.

Anytime you want a conversation about the realities of stripping as a job and what is going on in the area, as well as some help with the actual dancing, feel free to PM me.

Aren't you in your mid-20s? Your mother ought not to even raise a hand to you, ever, for your adult career choices. :hug:

"Why isn’t selling fucking legal?" -- George Carlin

Peter McWilliams on prostitution:
http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/aint/306.htm

And in case you don't know Peter McWilliams:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_McWilliams

Very, very good point.
I freakin' LOVE my job, most of the time.

I was a number, not a name, and was always aware of the fact that, tomorrow, someone else could do my job.

Corporations are persons but you most certainly are not.

know more about the real estate market than I do. I love it when someone in Florida thinks they have their finger on the pulse of Detroit. :banghead:

Cunningham and sell out your constituents, the people that elected you to represent them and to help make their lives, if not better, at least tolerable, for an antique commode from a corporate benefactor.

I find that the average street corner hooker is far more honest about themselves than someone like him. And in Washington he's not alone.

I know sex work would pay much better than what I do, and in at least some instances be less degrading.

Plus sex workers can say no.
Imagination is highly rewarded in sex workers.
just sayin'

is that you get to keep your clothes on. :shrug:

How's that job search coming?


:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

I have a great problem with inertia.

:hug:

Sadly, it is, generally speaking, a much more high-risk situation than working in some soul-killing office. Because it is marginalized and unregulated. Then again, if you are a kid who's been forced into it, or sold into it by your parents so they can feed the rest of the family, or if you're a streetwalker who has to answer to a pimp, or someone who really did not want to get involved in sex work but found no other viable means of supporting yourself...well, then it's probably about equal.

I certainly wouldn't work in that field - not that anyone would be interested in my doing do.

on my off-hours. I love my daytime job, but the money is for shit. There is nothing INHERENTLY wrong with sexwork, although the way women are viewed in sexwork very often twists about what could be a very socially respectable job. The power dynamics can be all fucked up.

Hell, the way sex is viewed in this country is all screwed up. That's why I'druther tie people up and work on their humility.

:evilgrin:

that doing what she does gives her a great sense of Power. She can get those guys to give her every dollar in their possession just by talking dirty and rubbing on them a little. They're ready to do anything for her by the end. The club owners don't care how they do what they do, as long as they make the Club money without getting it shut down by the cops.

In corporations, however, one is most valued as a mindless drone. Creativity is stifled as much as possible. Even those who can find a way to work much more effectively by cutting out some of the red tape are punished rather than appreciated. Those who blindly follow the rules are rewarded with promotions. There is no sense of power to be felt by anyone except those at the top.

In fact, most employers, IME, want mindless drones who just do as they're told and don't think.

WOnder why you even HEAR about employers wanting people with "initiative," "creativity," "can think outside the box?"

I guess maybe there are 1 or 2 employers like that out there.

in either scenario you're selling your services.

disclaimer- this statement is not meant for those who are forced to engage in any work against their will.

Because you still take your body home with you untouched at the end of the day in a corporation.

degradation of the body.

But, that's just me. :shrug:

:shrug:

But that's not a subject for this thread.

But I would submit that there is no comparison. When you are degraded at work, you can smile and think your own thoughts and look for another job. When you are held down and forced to submit to the physical whims of another human being, you have no options.

than things such as prostitution or pornography.

But even people in those two industries have choices. They can also put on a smile and think their own thoughts and look for another job.

Now, if you're talking about someone who is forced by another to do that job, and that someone has No choice whatsoever, that's not "sex work." That's rape.

I just can't imagine that you can "float away" as easily when there is someone inside your body as you can when your boss is yelling at you. But perhaps you're right. I would hate to devalue my body to the degree that I could do that, though, and I guess that's where I come up with degrading.

I also tended towards the view that prostitutes were victims, etc, except that one prostitute I once knew made it very clear to me that she did not feel like that at all thank you very much, and that I could take my condescending views and shove it.

I decided I didn't know as much as I thought I did after that.

Maybe they like the sex, and the money that comes with it. It would depend on each individual situation to make a determination.

I've never worked in the sex industry, but I have worked in corporations. I feel that often times, especially in a job that is low in the hierarchy, that my soul is being devalued. But as with prostitution, it would depend on each individual situation.



Sorry billy. I'll let the thread die, now.

But does any individual find soul-reward from anonymous sex with strangers? I think that's the point I can't seem to grasp. Is that ever fulfilling for someone? Maybe I just don't have the imagination to understand that.

Perhaps I was taking it too seriously. My apologies. :hug:

It depends on the industry, it depends on the corporation's culture, it's size, it's age, and other factors. I've worked in the film industry, the computer industry, insurance, retail, and education. They are vastly different from one another.

Job freedom can also be a function of level. The higher up you get, the more you design your own job, and the less proscribed the job description, usually.

Its the fact that there's actually a call for such work.

As long as there is a demand for something, there will always be someone willing to fill that demand for a price.

But I for one don't see the "mindless drone" thing. It sounds like some kinda slacker justification for getting stoned on the couch and watching cartoons.

Pretty much anything can be seen as mindless and degrading if thats what you are inclined to see it as.

Corporate jobs can be amusing, once you rise above peon level. Seeing yourself as a mindless drone implies a lot of alienation, viewing yourself as outside and not of the entity, working for "the man." It doesn't have to be that way.

at least with the sex work you get to have some fun