Hey! My Mom got me a autographed copy of Ralph Nader's book

sasquatch

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Thu Dec-25-03 08:53 AM
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Hey! My Mom got me a autographed copy of Ralph Nader's book

It's the one 'Crashing the Party' about his run for POTUS in 2000. Spare me the "He destoryed the election" bullshit. Gore still won besides the fact his running mate cost him WV, OH and TEN. I love this gift and my Mom is actualy a * supporterBTW
:wtf:I know that's what I say everytime:shrug:

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fishguy

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Thu Dec-25-03 08:59 AM
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1. Did you throw it in the fireplace?

Seriously, I used to like Nader in a way but he has become a moron in my mind since 2000.

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NightTrain

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:18 PM
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10. I thought only right-wing jerk-offs supported book-burning?

:shrug:

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cryofan

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Thu Dec-25-03 09:04 AM
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2. Nader is GGGGRRREEEAAAATTTTTTTT!!!!

Hang onto that book, now. It will be worth a lot of money 100 years from now....maybe Raplh will be like Marx or something...ya never know....

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sasquatch

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Thu Dec-25-03 09:07 AM
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3. I hope he's more like FDR or TR not Marx

I'm not a Marxist if you catch my drift. Chavez is cool though:)

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 10:46 AM
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4. Nader started as a good person.

But then the money and power went straight to his head, and turned him into an absolute asshole.

http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

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sasquatch

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Thu Dec-25-03 02:11 PM
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5. Ralph's still a good person

He's just upset that his old party has turned into a harlot.

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Terwilliger

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Thu Dec-25-03 02:22 PM
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8. what does realchange have to say about Democrats, Archae?

huh?

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sasquatch

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Thu Dec-25-03 02:39 PM
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9. It's to bad people hate Ralph for lies that were told to them

Edited on Thu Dec-25-03 02:43 PM by sasquatch

Al Gore still won the election. The person that costed Al the most was Lieberman's DINO ass. Ralph just wants his party to go back to supporting the people not republican intrest. I think Ralph made his point and the Dems finaly get it.

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:31 PM
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12. Why don't you take a look?

The only guys this website's author doesn't nail is Dean, Kerry, Clark, and so far Lieberman.

He totally savages Bush*.

http://www.realchange.org/index.htm

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Terwilliger

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:42 PM
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15. savages everybody...

but only the ones against Nader are valid, right?

I'd just like you realchange referencers point out that fact.

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:49 PM
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17. This time, actually READ the site.

Most notably the ones on Dean, Kerry and Clark.

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Terwilliger

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Thu Dec-25-03 04:11 PM
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19. I have...many times...

this is getting away from the point

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 04:29 PM
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22. Exactly.

And the point is that Nader is a liar, union-buster, rich asshole.

Who only wants to ensure that Bush* gets elected again in his delusions that he's a "viable" candidate for president.

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NightTrain

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Thu Dec-25-03 02:14 PM
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6. It's a fascinating book; you'll like it very much.

And any Nader-hater reading this message can kiss my fat ass!

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sasquatch

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Thu Dec-25-03 02:19 PM
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7. I already read it actualy and it was a good read

BTW all the Nader hating, DLC coddlers can kiss my ass as well:evilgrin::hi:

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:24 PM
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11. I see we have our own versions of the Bush Phanbois here.

"We don't care about the facts regarding Nader!"

"We're that much in love with him!"

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NightTrain

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:34 PM
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13. Replace "Nader," with "Gore," and you're talking about yourself.

Among the dozen or so reasons I just said "no" to Gore in 2000: NAFTA, GATT, and a right-wing running mate.

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:37 PM
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14. I thought Gore was a dork...

Long before he became VP.

That totally asinine "senate hearing" he let his clueless WIFE chair on dirty words in popular music showed me right then and there jsut what a total asshole Gore is.

The only bigger asshole in the 2000 election was Bush*.

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NightTrain

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:42 PM
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16. But you voted for him anyway?

Well, that was your right, just as it was my right to say "fuck you" to the new center-right Democratic Party and vote for Nader. With any luck, the Democrats learned the hard way that they are *not* entitled to my vote simply because they suck a little bit less than the Republicans.

Personally, I'd rather we stop looking back three years and look ahead to 2004. After all, our common goal *is* to get Bush's ass out of our White House!

Now, what do you say we join forces and kick some Republican ass next year? :thumbsup:

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 03:49 PM
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18. Nope.

I wrote in Jesse Ventura in 2000 for president.

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Terwilliger

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Thu Dec-25-03 04:12 PM
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20. you don't care about the facts about Democrats....you ignore them

that what you mean?

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Archae

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Thu Dec-25-03 04:27 PM
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21. Nope.

If a democrat is a dork, I won't vote for him.

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AmericanErrorist

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Thu Dec-25-03 06:36 PM
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23. A Small Taste...

Bill Clinton: Where do we begin? With Monica Lewinsky, of course. But there's other stuff besides adultery: admitted pot smoking, draft dodging, shady failed Whitewater development. His wife Hillary has the more significant scandal: the miracle $100,000 commodities profit. Bill's character: The ultimate baby boomer, just wanna go along with the crowd guy. Wilder accusations - involvement in murder of Vincent Foster, cocaine use, supporting CIA drug/money laundering operation at Mena, Arkansas?

They're expressly non-partisan.

George W. Bush, Jr.:
-- His top aides illegally exposed a CIA agent to coverup lies about Iraq
-- Lied to congress and used forged documents to get approval for war in Iraq
-- Convicted of drunk driving, and lied repeatedly to cover that up.
-- Lied under oath to stop a private lawsuit.
-- Covered up Saudi aid to 9/11 hijackers
-- Bush's Palestinian business partner got access to the first President Bush and U.S. National Security Adviser Scowcroft soon after buying part of Bush Jr.'s failed oil company. Since then he has visited Bush Jr. in the White House and been investigated for links to Islamic charities and companies funding al Qaeda and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
-- Made millions from losing businesses, bailed out by his dad's friends.
-- Steered tens of millions of Texas state tax dollars to his campaign contributors, now steering billions of US tax dollars to his cronies and contributors.

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Skittles

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Thu Dec-25-03 06:49 PM
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24. I would burn it

:puke:

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Iverson

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Thu Dec-25-03 07:49 PM
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25. This is different from the reactionary right wing how?

Good old book burning, the aesthetic that lasts.

:puke:

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