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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:54 PM
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Soy milk is DELICIOUS.
I had it for the first time today and immediately ran out and bought both 1/2 a gallon of vanilla and 1/2 a gallon of the chocolate varities.

Screw cow's milk! It's so totally last year.

No?

:beer:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:54 PM
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1. No it isn't.
x(
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:56 PM
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3. what he said
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:57 PM
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5. I'm with you two.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:55 AM
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43. Yuck.
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 05:55 AM by Dulcinea
It's gross.
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:55 PM
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2. Yes.
Yes it is. :)
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:03 PM
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10. Hah
Your "comment" section of your profile is the best thing I've read in a while.
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:41 AM
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40. lol...
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 12:44 AM by sjbech
I'm honest to a fault. This is, of course, why no one ever believes my ruse. :)

(edited for spelling)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:57 PM
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4. *gag*
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:57 PM
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6. Sarcasm, right?
I think it's awful, myself. Even in coffee. Now rice milk isn't so bad.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:58 PM
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7. "Awful"???
It's white and milky and delish.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:01 PM
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8. All yours then!
Be happy - I won't compete with you for it! ;)

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:02 PM
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9. I still wanna fight you for it though.
:mad:

:crazy:
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 02:18 PM
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54. Soy Milk haters , please understand
soy milk is as different as wiones are different


Silk is considered the most lactose like and very sweet depending on if the sweetened variety. I like the unsweeted kind a lot

Westsoy just sucks in my opinion. Tree-barkish

Vitasoy is very nutty on the palate. Some people like it. Some don't

Trader Joe's is watery ; almost no flavor

And that's juts 4 brands. There are many other national brands--none tasting teh same.

Rice milk is ok. Lots of variety there too.

Almond milk is my workhorse..... I like it best of all the above.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:22 PM
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57. Well thanks!
I'll keep that in mind the next time I try it.

The one I tried I didn't like. Forget which kind it was, though...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:32 PM
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63. Does soy milk give you gas like other soy products?
I had stabbing gas pains when I ate a soyburger from my health foods store a while back. I am afraid of soy now.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:11 PM
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11. If I copycatted this thread,
Michael Jackson would probably get a bit upset...
:yoiks:

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:15 PM
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14. ...boy milk?
:hide:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:12 PM
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12. Rice milk is better for you. Try the chocolate.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:34 PM
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29. I'm going to then.
I love soy milk in the morning but if rice milk is better for us I'll change again.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:13 PM
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13. It's juice...
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 08:49 PM by MonkeyFunk
soy juice.


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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:36 PM
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15. Brilliant!!!!
I do believe the milk industry has paid mucho for that mindset.

Hi.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:51 PM
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19. Is Monkeyfunk wrong?
Juice = " the natural fluid, fluid content, or liquid part that can be extracted from a plant or one of its parts, esp. of a fruit."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/juice

Milk = "an opaque white or bluish-white liquid secreted by the mammary glands of female mammals, serving for the nourishment of their young."
(or)
3. any liquid resembling this, as the liquid within a coconut, the juice or sap of certain plants, or various pharmaceutical preparations."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/milk

Soy milk is definitely juice, and also milk, at least if you look at the dictionary definitions.

Personally, I think if marketers called it something other than milk, perhaps more people would be inclined to drink it for what it is and not expect it to be a replacement for cow's milk. Kind of like veggie burgers -- I like the ones that look and taste like beans/grains/etc., and don't try to pretend they are meat.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:14 PM
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21. So coconut milk is okay?
But soy milk isn't?

Kinda...you know...proved it yourself, I think. Thanks for the help, though.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:38 PM
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25. Coconut milk is also technically juice...but nobody drinks coconut milk by itself as a beverage
(at least not in the U.S. -- it's at most mixed in with other beverages) and it comes in shelf-stable cans so nobody's looking at it to substitute for cow's milk.

I never said soy milk wasn't OK. Of course it's OK. I like soy milk. I like coconut milk in recipes (not so much by itself). I like some nut milks (hazelnut, especially in coffee). (Rice milk = icky, but that's just a personal preference.) I'm not going to cry to the government that we can't call it milk, lest people get confused and the Got Milk? campaign's trademark get diluted. Call it what you want. But MonkeyFunk (and Lewis Black, I suppose) isn't wrong -- it's technically juice. Nothing wrong with juice, either. Juice is good for you.

I'm not making a value judgment...just a marketing judgment. Call it "milk" and put it in a carton that's identical to the one cow's milk comes in and plaster comparisons between it and cow's milk all over the carton and some people expect it to taste like cow's milk and then deem it nasty when it doesn't. (Which it doesn't.) I wonder if some of those same people might be more inclined to drink it if it was called something else. That's all.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:52 PM
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26. Good points.
I think that it comes down to more than taste, and comes to the utility of the liquid. Soy/rice/whatever milk does largely stand in the shoes of bovine milk in many examples. Taste is, well, just that.

To me, milk is the nutrition provide from a mother's teat to her young. Guess I'm just stupid. Technically, then, cow's milk would just be cow juice. But then, who'd buy that? Sounds like freshly squeezed cow to me. A marketing nightmare.

And as an fyi, the actual definition of milk:
an opaque white or bluish-white liquid secreted by the mammary glands of female mammals, serving for the nourishment of their young.

"of their young"

It's cow juice all over again. So then, yes, MonkeyFunk and Lewis would be wrong.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:15 PM
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22. It's a Lewis Black routine...
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:23 PM
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23. I love a glass of tomato milk in the morning.
With Tabasco and pepper.
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Kixel Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:52 PM
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35. Add potato milk to it
And that's a great start to your day!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:16 AM
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38. ...
:spray:


got me - :7
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:24 PM
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58. u r s0 teh smrt
:hi:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:36 PM
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64. I always tell people that Not Dogs
have soy lips and butts in them.

:)
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:40 PM
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16. I love vanilla soy milk in my cereal
and my son is obsessed with chocolate soy milk, he'll drink it with everything.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:40 PM
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30. I love chocolate soy milk too
When I was reluctant to try soy milk, a friend recommended I try the chocolate first. I did and POW!! I was hooked! I buy the little cartons, and just carry it around with me all the time. I love it!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:47 PM
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33. Good kid!
:)
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:44 PM
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17. We love it!
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 08:44 PM by hippywife
I use it in everything I would use normal milk in (we buy the plain organic variety.) I buy the ones on the shelf (not the milk case) and then refrigerate it at home. The best thing is that it keeps so long. We used to throw out so much cow's milk because we couldn't get through it all before it went bad. Not a problem with the soy milk, haven't had to throw out a single drop.
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edwin Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:46 PM
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18. I don't want to destroy your enthousiasm
but you should read up a bit about Soy and Phytoestrogens. Before you get too hooked, ya know. I really liked it too, but we decided to stop getting it altogether.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:46 AM
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42. The scare about that doesn't have good science behind it
Actually, that's charitable. The main promoters of the idea that soy is harmful quack like ducks.

I rather like this article on the issue. http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm

* Cow's milk provides more than nine times as much saturated fat as soy beverages, so is far more likely to contribute to heart disease.
* Soy beverages provide more than 10 times as much essential fatty acids as cow's milk, and so provide a far healthier quality of fat.
* Soy beverages are cholesterol-free, while cow's milk contains 34 mg of cholesterol per cup, which again means that cow's milk is far worse for your heart and cardiovascular system.
* Soy beverages lower both total and LDL ("bad") cholesterol levels, while cow's milk raises both total and LDL cholesterol levels, providing yet more reasons soymilk is better for your health.
* Soy beverages contain numerous protective phytochemicals that may protect against chronic diseases such as heart disease and osteoporosis. Cow's milk contains no phytochemicals.
* Men who consume one to two servings of soymilk per day are 70 percent less likely to develop prostate cancer than men who don't.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:48 AM
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50. Yay! LeftyMom!
I knew you'd be quick with good information! :)
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edwin Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:02 AM
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51. Wow, that's very black & white, LeftyMom
I understand how you like to read positive stuff about soy milk. Reality is that right now there's positive science about it, but there's also negative science. It just is too early to proclaim soy milk to be nothing than goodness, I suppose.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:35 PM
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52. You clearly didn't read that article she posted
which pretty accurately summed up all of that research. :eyes:
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edwin Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:10 PM
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55. Oy!
You are right, ThomCat. After seeing the start of the article first, I assumed it was one of the other brazillion articles out there that are prejudiced one way or the other. I stand corrected. :blush: Guess I should work on my own prejudices, huh?
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:13 PM
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20. Soy Milk is kind to cows.
Cows live miserable lives and milk is bad for humans. So, soy and rice milk are OK but not in quantity. that's what I think, I think.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:28 PM
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24. I'd have to be REALLY thirsty with no other palatable choices
to drink soy milk again. And I'll do rice or almond milk, but think soy is just nasty.
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:25 PM
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27. But
Soy makes you gay. Quick! Eat a snickers and do something manly!!:spank:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:42 PM
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32. I don't find that funny
:sarcasm:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:49 PM
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34. ...
:rofl:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:26 AM
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39. Does it?
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:33 PM
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59. You didn't know?
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:32 PM
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28. especially perfect with cereal
it's Just Right for cereal, I can't ever have cereal with regular milk now.
And when I get soy milk it lasts for two months so we can use every drop.
I've used it in recipes too and so far it acts just like milk.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:42 PM
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31. Rice milk is even better
for cereal and cookies.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:19 PM
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36. For drinking try "Soy Slender Cappuccino" very good
I like Vanilla flavor soy milk for my cereal. I rarely eat beef or drink cows milk the last several years. I think Americas beef consumption is responsible for most of obesity and heart conditions. I do still eat ice cream now and then, I'll take my chances with that.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:34 PM
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37. Huh...
I feel that the one I've had last tasted... watery.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 08:26 AM
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46. Try Westsoy Plus
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:37 PM
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53. Or Silk.
Some of the cheap soymilks can definitely be watery. But the good stuff is fantastic!
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:23 AM
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41. Lewis Black on Soy "Milk."
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:13 AM
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45. Damn, you beat me to it!
To summarize: "There's no such thing as soy milk, because there's no soy tittie, is there?"
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:05 AM
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47. heheh
"When I was a kid there was one kind of milk. Moo-cow-fuck-milk; that was it. And maybe chocolate moo-cow-fuck-milk too."
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 06:09 AM
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44. I love it. Welcome aboard!....
...:thumbsup:
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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:04 AM
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48. I love vinalla soy milk, but
right now I consume skim milk to keep my weight down.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:46 AM
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49. I Love soy milk, especially with chocolate!
:9
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:21 PM
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56. I happen to like soy milk
and I'm a carnivore. Soy milk. It's not just for vegetarians & vegans anymore. ;)

dg
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:29 PM
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61. But it is for cool people everywhere.
:hi:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:43 PM
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65. THOM!!
How's it going?? :hug: :hi:

dg
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 08:31 PM
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68. I'm doing well.
I'm spending a lot less time in the lounge recently though. Too many assholes and bigots need to get beat down on serious threads.
x(

How are you doing? :loveya:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 08:33 PM
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69. I hear you on the assholes & bigots
I'm doing okay. Glad to hear you're doing fine. Don't let the jerks get you down; we need ya! :loveya:

dg
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:45 PM
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67. Haha no it isn't.
I am a carnivore myself.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:40 PM
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60. Also try Oat , Almond, and Hemp. Quite tasty
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:32 PM
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62. I agree. and to anyone who has not tried it in years
try it again. Most brands are a lot better than they used to be; less beany, and smoother.

I love it.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:44 PM
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66. I'm on record for loving it
Vanilla Silk... My fave
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