The ephedra has worn off, finally...

Damn, that's potent stuff. (but one starts slow for a reason.)

I also did a few deltoid and tricep reps today... feels good, but I gotta stay at it for longer periods of time and I will do so.

Careful with it. Use only as directed, buddy. 25 mg of alkaloids at a time, 2x a day max.

:)

I took less than one official serving and it actually did work. Wonders. For hours longer than I'd have anticipated, as they say 3 pills, 3x daily. (I took two)

+ caffeine

Which reminds me, I need to go shopping.

:D

does no good for me. :(

When did they re-legalize it? That stuff works wonders when you are driving late at night.

Not sure why, but it's legal if the concentration is under 10mg per pill.

Of course, each serving is 3 pills. And no more than 10 pills per day, of course... :eyes: :rofl:

http://ephedrastock.com/

Way better than coffee. Thanks for posting this, I had no clue it was re-legalized.

unless you WANT a heart attack, that is. 25-30mg at a time is the most you want to take, and you don't really want to repeat the dosage until 4 to 6 hours have passed.

Again, I didn't take one serving at the time and effects lasted about 7 hours.

Nor will I use it every day; the body invariably builds a tolerance. (I can't even use Strattera anymore, I built up a tolerance to it over only 3 months!)

I'm trying to improve myself and this Yellow Cross stuff is a tool. Not a weapon of self-destruction.

I genuinely do appreciate your concern and I'm glad you mentioned it.

And I'm doing more than just drugs; real exercise is the core of any legitimate wellness program.

:(

Maybe it needs to take some ephedra... :spray:

You have to buy it at lesser dosages. They actually backed off of the ban, but the supplement companies can't get insurance to cover selling it.

You can, however, buy it from folks that had it before the ban. Not illegal to buy/own, just illegal to sell new product.

Thanks for the FYI...

Does it make you jittery?

It's "herbal speed" so to speak. It's safe, cheap and easy to manufacture. Erego, big pharma takes it away from us.

Google ma huang.

I think I may have tried it before. It was a while ago so I don't remember exactly. I really don't like to use things that make me too speedy but would like something. I wonder if it is safe for the ol' liver?

Taken in moderation, it's very safe so long as the user doesn't have any issues with the ole ticker or high blood pressure. AND, also taken according to direction.

:rofl:

Does this mean a lot of info I googled is wrong; and the 10mg issue is a phony one?!

I recall something about the latter on the other product the store had; the mini-tabs...

Mainly used by bodybuiders and others who want to lose weight more quickly. I am body re-building, need to reduce weight in areas because I'm damn tired of back pain, I am sensible with these things, and I am going to do it. Slowly and safely, I do not want to injure or kill myself...

But it's not to be trifled with; misuse can cause heart attacks, stroke, or death.

It got banned because a few users went ape-shit over the dosage and effectively crippled or killed themselves... and survivors or families of the dead sued. It's not entirely fair, IMHO... any drug, when overdosed, can do harm or worse. It seems common sense...

Even non-ephedrine products that have caffeine equivalent to 6 cups of coffee per serving say "Don't overdose, no more than x capsules per day..." Yet nobody is banning caffeine and tea leaf pills because someone decided "Well, I'm going to take 5x as many pills and I'll lose weight more quickly!!!"... Tragic. :dunce: But tragic.

I'm not against regulation, but banning is ridiculous and ALL these things have those disclaimers. We can't be a nanny state for everything... :( And there are far better things to be a nanny about...

I agree any drug can do more harm than good if abused. There are always a few stupid people who ruin it for people who are responsible. I tend to take less than recommended with stuff like that becauze I don't like the shaky feeling. Then and only then I may increase up to recommened if it feels comfortable to do so. I'm not sure about my liver though. I've got to be careful about evrything.

Both are stimulants and to overstimulate would be bad...

I haven't had any coffee today, but I won't be tomorrow... Maybe Tuesday when I lay off the stuff.

Again, very slowly and I'm not mixin' meds or anything.

It's not likely that I will use them right now anyway.

I'm glad your being careful. Good luck with the body re-building.

And given the price of 'legal' ephedra (as was stated by another DUer in this thread, 10mg or less per pill is legal because a judge declared it's a low enough dose - I confirmed that on the web as well, but both sides of the issue are rather interesting to read) I might not buy any more anytime soon, if ever - even the low dose is strong. I just need to feel the energy to exercise until I can do it on my own.

And then I can just keep going with out the extra help. So I understand that part of it well.

I didn't know about this judge's declaration.