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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:46 PM
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Poll question: Syd Barrett or David Gilmour



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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:57 PM
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1. Gilmour
Poor Syd — he cheated his own genius.





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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:10 PM
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2. That's a tough one.
Syd Barrett's music (and really, his whole style) was very unique, and certainly influential to Pink Floyd, as well as many other artists. However, David Gilmour's guitar playing is just...phenomenal. :loveya: The first time I heard "Comfortably Numb," I felt like those solos were taking me into another dimension (and no, I was not drunk, high, or otherwise impaired at the time). :) He just seems to be able to transmit the most intense emotions through those guitar strings, which is not something that I've found to be very common, even among some of the most technically proficient guitarists.

So, with apologies to the late, great Mr. Barrett, I'm going to have to cast my vote for Mr. Gilmour. :loveya:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:19 PM
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3. Whoa!
You're the only other person I've found who's said that about "Comfortably Numb." I swear, I hear something in that song that no one else does, and even after all this time I can't get through it without feeling something very, very deep and unexplainable.

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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:27 PM
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5. Far out!
:hi: I know what you mean. A lot of people like the song and think Gilmour's solos are good, but listening to it almost physically affects me. Something about the way he plays that song in particular makes me feel like I'm flying, or something...seriously, the first time I heard it, I felt like I was walking on air, even fifteen minutes (or so) after the song was over. Who needs drugs when you've got such deeply moving guitar work? :shrug: :loveya:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:13 PM
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9. With me, it's more the lyrics
I know there's something that relates to my life in "a distant ship's smoke on the horizon" and "I turned to look, but it was gone / I cannot put my finger on it now / The child is grown, the dream is gone," but... well, I cannot put my finger on it.

But the solo is... well, yeah — physical. Especially when he goes up the neck in the last 16 bars. I've often reacted to that, physically, as if I were enduring someone else's pain.

:shrug:

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:02 PM
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7. I am there with you
That song does take me to a moment when I was delirious as a child, and could sense things in what I thought were different dimensions.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:15 PM
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10. Yeah
I don't remember ever being delirious — though I did once have a high fever when I was about 2, and I remember crying — but some of the lyrics (see my reply to Cabcere above) make me feel like I'm seeing... no, looking for bits of a past life.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:29 AM
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17. Did you ever hear his solo album from the late 70's....
There's no way out of here.....
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:04 PM
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8. See this has been a tough one for me
The genius that is Barrett-era Floyd is diving back into childhood, and literally going mad in the process.

Gilmour, however, is a downright amazing guitarist. His use of Pedal Steel is transcendant. Meddle is, in my opinion, one of the greatest albums ever made that never got the credit it deserved.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:05 AM
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21. Echoes is the best Pink Floyd song. Ever.
Your thoughts on this?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:34 PM
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28. Yes, it is
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:44 PM
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12. I agree. Gilmour is one of a kind.
I STILL get chills when I hear the solo on Comfortably Numb, and I've heard it a million times.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:46 PM
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13. And the stuff on "Dogs" and "Sheep"
Man - some genius there
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:02 AM
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24. And "Echoes" and "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" and...
"Learning to Fly..."

My God, the list goes on. All great stuff.

I'll never forget when Rolling Stone had an article on the 100 greatest guitarists of all time. Gilmour was listed at 82, well below Lou Reed (52) and Kurt Cobain (12!). Nothing against Reed or Cobain, but give me a fuckin' break.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:02 AM
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16. It's called "soul" & "What is REAL?"
My stepdad, a professional jazz musician, ingrained in me during my preadolescence an appreciation for what could best be termed "soul."

It's indescribable, and completely unquantifiable. But you know it when you hear it, once you know what to listen for (which of course can't be quantified). Does the guy playing the song really FEEL it? It's like that kid's book The Velveteen Rabbit.

Syd maybe, maybe even probably, would have had a well-developed soul in a few more years, but, alas, he gave up the ghost too soon.

"What is REAL?" asked the Rabbit one day, when they were lying side by side near the nursery fender, before Nana came to tidy the room. "Does it mean having things that buzz inside you and a stick-out handle?"

"Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real."

"Does it hurt?" asked the Rabbit.

"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."

"Does it happen all at once, like being wound up," he asked, "or bit by bit?"

"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:20 PM
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4. it's hard to make a choice
Syd was creative, David is too. Syd went mad and David is a professional musician. You really cant compare the two.
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outofbounds Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:46 PM
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6. Gilmore
He playing is intuitive and smooth, smoooooooth. His fingers drip.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:00 PM
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11. Easily Gilmour...no twee for me (sorry Syd)
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:49 PM
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14. Barrett--his guitar style was more interesting. And transvestite pop songs are neat
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:53 PM
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15. Syd
Floyd was a more interesting band w/ him then Gilmour, IMO..
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:31 AM
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18. Gilmour, nt
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:40 AM
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19. Apples and Oranges
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 12:43 AM by Hardhead
Day and Night

May they both shine on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82IqwKB_qSo
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 12:51 AM
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20. That was really disturbing.
But in a good way. :evilgrin:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:06 AM
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22. Gilmour, most certainly.
But Barrett was amazing too.
Still, listen to the song 'Echoes' by Pink Floyd...you will hear absolute genius therein. Genius.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:22 AM
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23. No fair!
:D


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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:07 AM
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25. Gilmour, no contest.
His ability to produce the sound he wants so precicely puts him way up there, in my view.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:32 AM
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26. Something unreal about PF w/Syd. Never to be duplicated or matched.
The cosmic unconsciousness or something like it.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:14 AM
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27. Both
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silvermachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:51 AM
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29. I enjoy both...
...but with Syd they were more daring and experimental, which I what I usually gravitate towards. Plus they had a sense of humor that was sorely lacking after he left.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:05 AM
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30. tough choice, love 'em both.
both genius, but of different type. i'm on an early floyd kick right now, so i got to go w/ syd: "that cat's something i can't explain."
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slj0101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:13 AM
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31. Apples and Oranges (pun intended)
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 11:20 AM by slj0101
Barrett was the heart and soul of Pink Floyd. As much as I love the Barrett-era floyd, I wonder how long they would have lasted with him at the helm. Even before his mental breakdown, he was rather fickle and unpredictable. Gilmour, on the other hand, had a rock sensibility that really brought cohesion to the band after a few years of hit-and-miss experimentation.

edit- heheh. I see someone else responded the same way upthread.
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