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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:50 AM
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Twin Sisters Take Naked Pics Of Themselves With 5 Y.O. Boy - Have Pics Developed At Walgreens
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Twin sisters from Sheboygan were reported to police by photo developers after taking partially nude pictures of each other in front of a 5-year-old boy — and in one case having the child take a picture of them — according to Sheboygan police.

The 29-year-old women turned in the racy photos for developing at Walgreen Drug Store, 1029 N. 14th St., and store employees reported them to police on Sunday, said Lt. Jeff Johnston of the Sheboygan Police Department. Both were arrested Monday.

Johnston said the pictures show the women in provocative underwear and in some cases topless, with the boy sometimes in the background. The women apparently took the pictures of each other, and one picture of both of them was taken by the child, Johnston said.

Both women are expected to be charged today with exposing a child to harmful material.

The Department of Social Services was called in to help interview the boy and follow up on his welfare, Johnston said.

The photos were taken in the 3000 block of N. 15th St., where one of the women lives, he said.

http://www.sheboygan-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070327/SHE0101/70327050/1973
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:52 AM
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1. sometimes the shit you post depresses me--
this is one of those times...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:56 AM
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2. We they actually doing anything that might harm the boy?
or did he just see some underwear and nudity?

No child has ever been harmed by seeing a naked body. Unless there's more going on that what's presented here, the crime is that the police are involved in this at all.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:58 AM
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4. Source?
Because I've worked with many women, children, and even men that are harmed by flashers and such.

NAMBLA argues that children want to participate in adult sexual activities, but that doesn't make it true.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:06 AM
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8. Nambla are child molesters.
There's no comparison between seeing someone naked and having a predator after you.

I'm conflicted on the issue of flashers. If you are uncomfortable about nudity then a flasher is going to be a terrible thing. A naturist (nudist), or just someone who isn't concerned about nudity, is going to see flashing as a sign that the flasher has emotional problems but isn't going to be traumatized by it.

I still don't see anything that indicates that this kid was harmed in any way. And the fact that some people are upset about flashers doesn't mean that nudity is inherently harmful.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:14 AM
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11. Flashers fall under sexual provocation though
If they were doing that to the kid, I could see it as being more actionable. If it's just nudie pics with nothing sexual, to me that's less potentially harmful. Not responsible or bright, but not criminal either in my view.
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:40 AM
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19. Source is the charges themselves. No child endangerment or exposure
or anything... they were charged with "disorderly conduct".

You can be charged with that in WI for cursing in public.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:58 AM
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5. i can understand where you are coming from thomcat
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 10:01 AM by wildhorses
but, i think a certain vibe HAD to be in the air...


the word 'racy'
leaves a lot to the imagination
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:44 AM
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20. The media used "racy". The DA charged with generic "disorderly conduct"
It sounded like a juicy story... "hot blonde twins", blah blah blah.

Media is all hype.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:59 AM
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7. I'm inclined to agree
I think it's considered irresponsible to parade nude in front of a five year-old and have him take your topless pictures, but I don't know if it's criminal.
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:38 AM
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18. I agree.
Look below for link to actual charges on Wisconsin Circuit Court Access (WCCA). They were charged with "Disorderly Conduct" which is the equivalent of "bullshit".
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:57 AM
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22. I guess it's the pictures that seem disturbing to me. There's nothing wrong
with children seeing nude bodies in an incidental way, but something about taking pictures and having the child take pictures strikes me as crossing a line somehow. I guess it really depends on the context and poses in the pictures, which I'm sure we'll never see.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:56 PM
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32. "Having the child take pictures" is actively involving him--and that's where
it becomes black, no longer gray, imho.

How does a five year old tell an "adult" no?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:49 PM
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33. the age difference is what bothers me also
it is not the 'sex' thing but, the 'power' thing that is weird to me

also wonder if their intent was to distibute these for profit
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:56 AM
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3. Sad for the kid.
I feel bad that this kid was exposed to that, but I am glad that those women were stupid enough to have their photos developed at Walgreens.

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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 09:58 AM
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6. I'm far from being a prude
but even I will say this crosses the line.
---
You hear stories of Wal-Mart and other photo developers turning in people who take pictures while vacationing at say a nudist resort and such. Mnay people here will see that as a gray area - my take is that doesn't automatically qualify as child endangerment.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:56 AM
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21. just a question
would you see it the same way if it was a 5 year old girl taking pictures with naked men?
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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:21 AM
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23. If
let's say a father having his picture taken by his daughter - in a neutral environment, and this family is comfortable in their nudity. I wouldn't see a problem.

If it's a five year old girl with a non-relative male in the bedroom, I would cringe at that.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:35 AM
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24. this doesn't strike me as a mother-child thing
it would have said so, otherwise, I think. not saying it is a bad thing neccesarily, but it really does fall under the Felix Frankfurter definition, "I know it when I see it" people hanging out skinny dipping is one thing, cuddling on the couch is a completely different thing. it's just a funny line.
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:08 AM
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9. While this will likely turn out to be nothing, I see why it's being investigated
but who is the random boy?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:13 AM
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10. isnt it common in Europe for kids to see nudity?
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slj0101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:18 AM
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12. heheh...
Yeah, and watching your folks do the nasty is a family rite.
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:24 AM
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13. On local news they indicated the charges are "Disorderly Conduct"
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 10:30 AM by Serendipitous
Which leads me to believe it wasn't as "racy" as they are trying to make it out.
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:27 AM
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14. Link to actual charges...
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 10:28 AM by Serendipitous
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Norma Wilkins Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:29 AM
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15. sounds overblown
lol
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:30 AM
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16. Probably overexposed as well
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:36 AM
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17. Maybe the boy will earn a photography credit for kindergarten
Hey, there's always a silver lining.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:38 AM
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25. No pics of the 29 year old's = worthless thread.
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:14 PM
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29. Here you go...
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:22 PM
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31. The Sheboygan Press pictures are clearer.
Blech!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:49 AM
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26. Awww man! What happens when everybody turns to digital photography??
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 11:49 AM by HypnoToad
(the dunderheads will go to Walgreens and have their "digital film" processed because, like true idiots, they don't even know the proper, technical term for their flash RAM modules and need to be patronized every stinkin' step of the way... :eyes: )

Edit: Grammatical error.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:54 AM
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27. As DU's resident of Sheboygan, I have only one question...
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 11:55 AM by Archae
What are their names? I'd like to visit sometime... :P
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:12 PM
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28. The CCAP links are above
You can even get their addresses in that...
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:21 PM
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30. The Sheboygan Press link has been updated, with pictures of the women.
Absolutely not "Girls Gone Wild" material. :P
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:52 PM
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34. I liked where that was going until the 5 year-old showed up.
I hate kids. x(
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:58 PM
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35. I worked at the photo lab that processed all the overnight photos...
for Oregon, Washington, and Idaho.. I was the digital guy. I had to look at every photo that people wanted on CD. Some really freaky shit went through that place. I have seen way to many pictures of suicides. Most police departments used us. And 95% of the population needs to keep the lights off when they get naked.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:09 PM
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36. so is it true....
the the photo developing guys make extra copies of the really good stuff for themselves?
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:24 PM
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37. Yeah, we made copies.
Only the people that worked with digital.. We did 50,000+ normal pictures per hour. It would be impossible to re-print a roll that had pictures of boobs. I could make a new CD of those pictures in seconds, if they got scanned into the KUDUFUS first.


*Not impossible, we would just have to talk to the boss fist.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:38 PM
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38. What part of the womens bodies were "harmful" to the boy?
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 04:40 PM by Radical Activist
Just wondering.
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