Y'know, I'm normally not prone to violence

but I just found this link at another site and I couldn't believe it. I mean....day-um...

http://community.livejournal.com/customers_suck/21166233.html

It make me want to hunt down this particular customer and beat her with a copy of the biggest book I can find.

And then, after I've beaten her, deposit said tome in an appropriate orifice.

Nah...on second thought, that'd be a waste of a good (or even not-so-good) book. It makes me see red, to think that there are parents like this out there. It makes me nauseous.

too thick:eyes:

I mean...for chrissakes. Too thick? That woman's fuckin' HEAD is too thick. What the hell does she want for her daughter? Brainless and stupid? She probably gives her daughter lessons on batting her eyelashes and simpering.

Poor girl. I only hope that she's rebellious and doesn't listen to mommy dearest.

:nuke:

Such a blatant double standard, and deliberately dumbing down her daughter... x(

I hope that daughter rebels and grows up to be an intellectual.

Wouldn't it be a riot if that girl grew up and says to Mom, "Y'know, Mom, there's this girl that I've been seeing for a while now...."

:P

A mom with such rigid gender role expectations is likely to disown a lesbian daughter. :(

but you're right. I suspect that girl's going to have to have a solid outside support network for just about anything other than a husband and babies, though. That's the kind of mom who expects her little princess to graduate from high school with a diamond on her hand in June and then get married two weeks later. She probably doesn't even support her education, except for home economics.

x(

'cause after an announcement like that, Mom is going to require inpatient care.

I'd say "here's a cardboard box to retire in. Gee, if I had been encouraged to learn I would have bought a nice house you could retire in. Sorry, bitch!"

Sorry, but this pisses me off on several levels, and I am a guy!

What a piece of work...

RL

I really, really would've had a hard time dealing with that woman in a civil manner. Hell, I'd read GWTW by the time I was in the sixth grade. War and Peace the same year. That summer I started on Shakespeare...and my parents encouraged me. They were a bit puzzled, but they encouraged me.

I can't even imagine someone actually saying that to their daughter.

I've made sure of that!

:rofl:

RL

not that I can get mine to actually read one, but if the urge ever strikes her, they're here. I made a promise to myself before I had #1 son...I'd never deny my kids a book...and I've kept that promise to the best of my ability.

Yours, though...talk about immersion therapy.

:rofl:

and only drop food and juice down the laundry chute.

Get this: yesterday she came home from school and told me she was in love with her "Book Buddy." That's a 3rd grader that reads to her (She's in kindergarten).

So she's in love with an older man. And He reads to her...

Seems she's found a boy just like dear old dad after all :rofl:

Maybe locking her in the basement isn't such a bad idea after all... :D

RL

in love with a reader. My darling daughter tends to go for the boys who wouldn't recognize a book if you smacked 'em with one.

:eyes:

:D

RL

It's red, edging over to purple.

My eyes about bugged out of my head and just thinking about it makes my blood boil.

"I couldn't fall in love with someone if she couldn't have kids," "Real feminists don't kill babies," "At some point, we've got to start limiting people's right to have more than two kids," and "I don't understand why being on the pill is that big a deal."

That sad, sorry excuse for a woman should be ashamed of herself.

a life of misery, attached as she will eventually be to an insecure, illiterate neanderthal of a man. Sad.

and doesn't listen to her mother. Hopefully she's got teachers and other adult figures that can show her that her mother is dead. wrong.

just wow.

i cannot believe that people still cling so tightly to such rigid (and outdated) gender roles.

that makes me all the more grateful that my parents raised me to think i can do anything a boy/man can do.

that poor girl.

No matter what my parents' failings were -- and face it, none of us is perfect -- a parent like that makes me appreciate the ones that I had who taught me that I can do anything I set my mind to and that gender doesn't matter.

My daughter has her own freaking LIBRARY. I have always had one simple rule with my kids. I may say no to toys, I may say no to video games, I may say no to sleepovers, and I may do all of that other not-so-fun parent stuff to set boundaries with my kids, but I NEVER refuse a request for a book. I have always had a household that encourages reading, and my kids are all at the tops of their classes as a result.

As to the mothers opinion....I own a nice home, my own company, several cars, and I'm pretty damned good looking. My guess is that the mother would be shitting bricks of joy if her daughter brought home a prize like me. The problem is that I'd never consider her daughter. Intelligent men like intelligent women, and we're not interested in uneducated ladies who can't hold a real conversation (for relationships anyway, casual sex is a different story). I dated lots of hot airheads when I was single. I married a teacher.

And I wouldn't have let her comment go by without saying something. That kind of stupidity needs to be confronted. By being silent, everyone in the store was indirectly reinforcing the mothers point. After all, if she were wrong, wouldn't someone have spoken up? I understand the cashiers position, but I think she did a real disservice to the girl by not saying something. So did anyone else within earshot.

I suspect that she was just so shocked initially that she was speechless. I believe that, in an ideal world, the cashier should have spoken up -- someone should have spoken up -- it's sad, but this society has reached a point where 'mind your own business' seems to be a mantra. This is an exception, I think, but we often realize how we should have reacted when the moment has passed and it's too late.

I hope this cashier remembers what this woman looks like and can react the next time.

Kids misbehaving? She sends them to their room to read a book. And she lets them know it's a punishment.

People are morans.

Heh...my parents did just the opposite. Sent me to my room, told me to leave my door open and that I couldn't read.

Sometimes I just don't *get* people.

:crazy:

Worst. Mother. Ever.

at the top of the list. It's hard for me to get my mind around people like that.

:puke:

You could fulfill two fantasies at the same time!

I like the way you think.

:D

I so wish I hadn't read that.

It's just sickening. It's a form of abuse, no two ways about it. And an insidious form, at that. The bruises don't show.

:(

in a bookstore. We'd get customers who requested a book like this: "Um...I'm looking for this book...um...I don't know what it's called, but it's by this guy...I don't know his name but I know he has one...it's called "The Something"...or something...it's about these people who go to this place...um...it has a blue cover...do you know the one I mean?".

A few of my co-workers and I had the idea to start our own bookstore, The Arrogant Bookstore. Simple concept: know the author and the title when you walk in.

The conversation above would, in The Arrogant Bookstore, have gone like this: "I'm looking for this book...I don't remember what it's called or who it's by-"

"Then get out!"

B-)

Did my duty there for several years. Kevin Smith was spot on in the video store scenes in Clerks.
"I'm lookin for that movie with that guy."

wouldn't last long, though. But it might be fun while it lasted.

:D

like me. And there are a lot of them out there...

Like comic book geeks. Have you ever been in a comic book store? There are always five or six guys there hanging out and debating the relative merits of whatever superhero is hot at the moment. These guys know every issue of every series of every title of every genre you can imagine. Book geeks are similar, only without the shorts and dirty tee-shirts. B-)

with my 1500-page unabridged edition of Les Miserables.

I remember being embarrassed upon discovering that my mother videotaped me reading at age three. Now, I'm quite grateful. :scared:

there are people out there, apparently, who would have snatched the book out of your hand and put a rattle in it instead.

Wrong on so many levels, I don't know where to begin.

it's bothered me all day. It's going to bother me for quite some time, I think.

girls should only be interested in finding a man to take care of them... :sarcasm:

:hi:

In this society, she's not giving her daughter many options. :(

not many at all. Hell, she's not giving her ANY. What would she do if the book were assigned reading for an English class? She'd probably complain bitterly to the school board. I had to read East of Eden when I was about that age -- my parents were thrilled. This woman would probably have complained that it wasn't feminine or something.

I'll tell you what's not feminine. Ignorance isn't feminine. Illiteracy isn't feminine.

Stupid woman.

To when women were chattel and came with large tracts of land...

:eyes:

Yup.

Not you :)

The Evil Dupe Monster has returned.

:eyes:

The bigger, the better.

:)

Holy crap. How stupid do you have to be to spout crap like that?

I truly can't imagine it.

:scared:

Dupe, dupe, dupity, dupe.

:crazy:

I really hate this mother... she is only helping her daughter to a life of trailer park living (not that trailer parks are all terrible or anything, just an expression) and making sure that she is "attractive" to boys?

I'm sorry, but I find women who think, read, and can carry a big book more attractive :P than a woman who is unread, and has been raised in the house of female narcissism to think that it all revolves around beauty on the outside and helplessness.

:mad:

poor girl

If this girl listens to her mother, she's headed for a lifetime of struggling and a COMPLETE lack of self-confidence.

It's incredible, isn't it?

:nuke:

it should be, but i live in a state that won't even let the equal rights amendment out of committee in the legislature here, why? because people like Phyllis Schaffley and her "Eagle Forum" who would probably think this woman is right on in terms of dealing with her daughter, pressure the legislators into believing they will be pushed into a place where they can't win an election if they support it.

:crazy:

I can't believe that there are still people out there who limit their daughters....and think they're doing the 'right' thing. It's just unfathomable.

:wow:

or they come from ignorance or money.

or both

it's wild :wow:

:wtf:

I know...unfuckingbelievable.

a.....mother. If you can actually call her that.

My kids love books. I'd be devastated if they didn't, to be honest.

We walked into a bookstore once and my son, who was about 7 at the time, stopped and took a really deep breath and said, "Just smell that, Mom! I love the smell of all those books!"

That stupid twit of a .... mother. She needs to be smacked between the eyes with a very large tome.

maybe that'd knock some sense into her.

Lucky, lucky you. Personally, I'd give anything if my kids loved books as much as I do. Out of my five, only one of them is a reader. I try not to be disappointed -- they all have individual talents and they've all got an appreciation of and an ear for music -- I keep hoping the reading thing will catch up.

My oldest is 23 and I'm STILL hoping it'll catch up. Heh...two years ago, he asked for a dictionary for Christmas. I damn near fell all over myself trying to get to the bookstore before he changed his mind and decided he'd rather have some kind of gadget for his PS2.

:eyes:

I was standing in line at a warehouse store waiting to speak to the butcher (or the teenager in charge of the meat department). In front of me is a woman with a girl about 5 or 6 sitting down in the cart. At one point, the girls asks her mother why she always has to clean up after her brothers. At this, the mother at me, jokingly, and says, "Well, she's gonna have to get used to it." Apparently, she meant that her daughter might as well become accustomed to a lifetime of cleaning up after the men in her life. I was stunned, and just stood there for a second open-mouthed and the woman walked away.

Today, sadly, it doesn't.

:(

I was at a flower show once with my girlfriend and there was a family there. The dad had wondered off and the mom was standing there with her little boy who looked to be about four. He said, "these flowers are sure pretty mommy." She grabbed his little arm...HARD...and started lecturing him on how boys are not supposed to notice pretty flowers and how he better not say anything like that in front of his dad. Yup...made me want to puke.
Lee

I really don't. I don't think I ever will, either. I don't think I *want* to.

will be people who were treated this way as kids. Disgraceful. :(

Why can't we just let them enjoy what they enjoy without making them feel like there's something wrong with them?

And he thinks Anjelina Jolie is a babe.

If the girl is in the 13-15 age range, do you really think she's going to listen to her mother?

I'd wager money that the kid gets the book out of the library, and 3 others besides. She'll probably go on to college and kick ass because she'll have to do it with her money and no support from home. I hope she does, anyway.

With everything I have, I hope so too.

and it makes me very, very angry. :nuke: What is wrong with people like that?!?!?! :grr: :mad:

On edit: RRR, I think maybe you should add a "read" to your username, just for this thread. :silly: (Just kidding.)

then I figured that might be just a teeeeeeeeny bit over the top.

And yeah...this whole thing has had my stomach in knots all day long. Every time I think about it, I get angry and sickened and upset and a whole bunch of other things all over again.