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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:10 PM
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Who is the smartest person ever?
Just curious to see who we think are the most intelligent people through history.

I'd probably go with Da Vinci or Edison.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:11 PM
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1. Einstein, IMO.
Stephen Hawking would be a close second.

Terry
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:24 PM
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8. About Hawking...
...the day the guy makes an experimentally verifiable prediction I'll eat my shoe.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:36 PM
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16. Raw, grilled, sauteed, or blackened?
Hawking predicted that black holes would emit radiation in the X-ray to gamma-ray section of the spectrum. Subsequent observation has shown that they do.

Fetcheth the shoe...
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:19 PM
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30. Tucker?
Tucker Carlson? is that you ol' boy?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:25 PM
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11. Einstein.
n/t
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:12 PM
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2. Newton or Leibniz
Not so sure about the "ever".
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:12 PM
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3. Have to agree........n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:24 PM
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10. Newton
Einstein was a sharp cookie too, but Lorentz was going down the same relativistic road.

Newton's ideas were the most original and revolutionary.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:28 PM
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13. Oh?
And Leibniz was going down the same theoretical road that Newton traveled. Of course Newton made contributions in more areas than just about anybody else, but still...
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:13 PM
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4. me
that shoudl have been obvious by now ;)
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GregorStocks Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:51 PM
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38. No, it's me!
I got a 1340 on my SATs at age 12. Trump!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:49 PM
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43. Johns Hopkins program?
They had me take the SAT at 12 as well. It was never quite clear to me what the point of it was, we moved shortly after I took the test.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:14 PM
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5. Bill Clinton
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:21 PM
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6. Hello, Frank Zappa
Cheers
Drifter
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:23 PM
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7. Edison was more determined than smart
If there were 1000 possible ways to get a widget to work, Edison would try all 1000 even if he could have thought his way to reducing the number of possibilities. This sort of plodding dreary approach works but shows a certain lack of imagination.

His contemporary, Nicola Tesla, was a mad genius who never bothered to patent many of his inventions. He would take those 1000 possibilities and pick out the 2 or 3 that would almost certainly work and move on to other things.

The problem, of course, is what do you mean by 'smart'. How about Plato? The guy invented Western thought. If you mean mathematics, how about Paul Erdos or David Hilbert? Or maybe Wolfgang Pauli, Paul Dirac, or Stanislaw Ulam?
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:24 PM
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9. Gore Vidal, in my lifetime
So far.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:27 PM
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12. Johann Sebastian Bach
The greatest mathematical mind in history.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:29 PM
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14. Edward Witten
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Abaques Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:36 PM
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15. Newton or Einstein or Bohr
Newton independently co-invented calculus to mathmatically explain his theories.

Einstein developed a method of viewing the universe that was radically different from anything before it.

Bohr was the primary creator of our modern view of quantum physics, his views on how the atom works were brilliant and went against much of the accepted thought at the time.





Incidently, the people I've named are primarily responsible for the three main ways science has of explaining how the universe works:

Really, really small: Quantum mechanics by Bohr

Alot bigger (our scale): Classical physics by Newton

Really freaking huge: Relativity by Einstein
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judge_smales Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:37 PM
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17. There has actually been reasearch on this

The answer they came up with (surprized I haven't seen the name here already) was Isaak Newton.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:38 PM
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18. How did you miss al the Newton posts?
They are there, right from the beginning.
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judge_smales Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:45 PM
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23. Obviously

Clearly I'm not as smart as 'ol Isaak.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:07 PM
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26. Whoops - forgot the smiley in my first post
:-) just teasing, not being critical. :-)

:hi:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:41 PM
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19. Leonardo DaVinci of course
Because his genius was much more "well-rounded" than others.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:42 PM
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20. The most revolutionary
Darwin, the world still has not come to grips with it.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:44 PM
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21. Gauss!
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:44 PM
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22. Who else?! Mm-hoy...
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 12:46 PM by mac56


On edit: credit to "animatedtv.about.com"
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:02 PM
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33. Professor Frink
Professor Frink
he'll make you laugh
he'll make you think
he likes to run
and then the thing
with the....person.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:05 PM
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24. Tesla
many of his inventions were claimed by someone else.
More than anyone, Tesla harnessed nature in the service of man.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:32 PM
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35. 2nd
Other choices for me include Carl Sagan, Steven Hawkings, Kip Thorne and Robert Oppenheimer.

jay
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:07 PM
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25. Stephen Hawking
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:08 PM
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27. ME!!
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 01:08 PM by brainwashed_youth
I am the smartest person ever Goddammit!!! Lol...no, I'd probably havta vote for Einstein, Galileo, hell, maybe even Chomsky.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:09 PM
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28. is this a trick question
to get me to reveal my real name? Nice try guys...
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:12 PM
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29. al czervic
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:33 PM
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31. Athanasius Kircher
or perhaps Augustine of Hippo.

Kircher was a german generalist who dabbled in everything from sankrit, geology, botany, astromony and philosophy. He's often called 'the man who knew everything"

St. Augustine is generally regarded as the last man who actually did know everything. He is considered to have known the entire breadth and depth of scholarship in the world that he knew at the time.

and so I'm not to eurocentric, I will offer up Confucious, Siddhartha and Maimonides.

it is very strange, isn't it, that we associate brilliance with technology? and modern technology at that? no answer on this page is for a person who lived before 1600. strange.
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:39 PM
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32. George W Bush!
BBBBBFFFFNNNNNCCCCHHHHHKKKKKK - Baaaaahhhaaaaa!!!

Damn! Milk came out of my nose again - when will I learn?
Swallow first, laugh later.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:17 PM
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34. Ben Franklin
He was by far the best. He was an inventor on par with Da Vinci, but unlike Da Vinci he followed through and built his stuff. He was a scientist on par with Newton and his work with electricity has proved to be a watershed even in the history of science on par with Newton's work on optics and gravity.

In addition to this he also had very practical human genus. He was a master of diplomacy and state craft, and he was a brilliant civil servant. Not to mention that he was a writer every bit as talented as Mark Twain.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:53 PM
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36. Euclid, Archimedes, Da Vinci, Galileo, Newton, Einstein
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:50 PM
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37. Socrates...
because he said that he knew nothing
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:17 PM
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39. My rather unorthodox pick would be Richard Feynmann
because all the insight and knowledge in the world is of no use if you cannot convey it to others who may lack your cognitive abilities - and Feynmann was a GREAT teacher.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:38 PM
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40. I was considering him early as well
A genius, and an incredible teacher.

Had I known then what I know now, I'd have gone to CalTech like I wanted.
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ScholarSeeker Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:11 PM
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41. Bill Clinton
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:14 PM
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42. Oskar Heil
Oskar Heil designed the junction field-effect transistor (it's an important device, trust me on this) in the 1930s, 40 years before the technology to make them was available. He invented a tweeter based on the way the ear actually hears. Heil's tweeter has a bottom end of 800 hertz; put one of these in your speaker system and you don't need a midrange driver.

Einstein's work is more important than Heil's in some respects. On the other hand, I spent the morning driving a reach truck whose motors are controlled by junction FETs. Oskar Heil made my morning go a lot faster. That's important too.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:12 PM
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44. Karl Rove
He took an AWOL, alcoholic rube, questionable "C" student and got him appointed president to the greatest superpower, manipulated him to get a war started so he can reap the benefits and got people to unconditionally believe any lies they tell.

You have to admit that took brains to do.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:44 PM
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45. that lady in Parade magazine
:-)
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:45 PM
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46. Me
...or Da Vinci
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:19 AM
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47. smartest person is someone anonymous walking around today
There are for more educated people today than at any other time in history, therefore the smartest person is someone alive today, not someone from the past.

Probably either an American or European.

Probably not rich and famous, as being really really smart means that he realizes that life is finite and that strife and struggle are just a waste of time (it would probably be a "he," since males are statistically spread all over spectrum in brain development and structure, whereas females tend to group in center).

My guess is that this person was schooled at home for some portion of his schooling, and he is likely an atheist.
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:23 AM
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48. you are confusing intelligence with knowledge..
"smartness" is ill-defined.

:shrug:
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:55 AM
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49. the 2 are inextricably related -eom
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