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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:07 PM
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Poll question: I want to do this poll in the lounge: Who here won't buy gas on May 15th
I guess they're doing another one of those "Don't buy any gas in protest" days where no one is suppose to buy gas on May 15th.

Nice flame wars going on - personally I know the only reason I won't be buying gas on the 15th is because I'll be travelling thru Lancaster PA on the 13th and gas is usually cheaper there than in Delaware.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:08 PM
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1. Other.
I won't be buying gas because, while I own a car, it's in a different state and I won't drive it until mid-June. In the mean time, I walk or take the train. :shrug:
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:11 PM
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2. My bike is powered by Doritos and Pizza...
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:13 PM
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6. so you will probably getting gas on the 15th
unless you take beano.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:11 PM
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3. Eh...who the hell knows *what* I'll be buying on the 15th.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:12 PM
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4. this flame war
needs more cowbell.


I won't be playing cowbell on the 15th because I want to protest.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:13 PM
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5. Hell, I won't even pass gas on May 15th.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:14 PM
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7. I will buy gas if I need it. A one day boycott is fucking useless.
So we just buy more the day before and the day after.

Whoopie fucking shit.

:masturbatingmyselfhandgesturesmilie:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:47 PM
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21. You are a posting god!!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:59 PM
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22. Killjoy! Spoilsport! Wet blanket! Parade rainer on-er!
You gotta let the people blow off a little steam, even if the steam immediately evaporates.
;-)
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:22 PM
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8. From Snopes:

This year's e-mails (proposing a one-day "gas out" in May 2007) is yet another recasting of similar messages that have been circulating since 1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes that don't cost the participants any inconvenience, hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite their ineffectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was called for in 2000, but both drew little active participation and had no real effect on retail gasoline prices.

The recycling of the same campaign in subsequent years hasn't drawn enough interest to even be considered newsworthy.

The premise behind all these messages is inherently flawed, because consumers' not buying gasoline on one particular day doesn't affect oil companies at all. The "gas out" scheme doesn't call upon people to use less gasoline, but simply to shift their date of purchase and buy gas a day earlier or later than they usually would The very same amount of gasoline is sold either way, so oil companies don't lose any money.

By definition, a boycott involves the doing without of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted product held up as tangible proof to those who supply the commodity that consumers are prepared to do without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out" calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply shifting their purchases by a couple of days at most. Because the "gas out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a hollow one.

Not buying gas on a designated day may make people feel a bit better about things by providing them a chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices, but the action won't have any real impact on retail prices. An effective protest would involve something like organizing people to forswear the use of their cars on specified days, an act that could effectively demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline prices stayed high, American consumers were prepared to move to carpooling and public transportation for the long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas, however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is being done without.

Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline chain: the independent service station operators, who have the least say in setting gasoline prices. (Independents are at the mercy of a very volatile oil market and operate on thin profit margins, and even a single day's disruption of supply or demand can wipe out many days' worth of hard-earned profits.) As such, the "gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the wrong person.

Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low levels of participation, as documented by these snippets of news accounts from across North America:
Friday's gasoline boycott was an effort that sputtered, coughed, then died. Motorists continued to fill up gas-guzzling sport-utility vehicles and trucks alongside smaller vehicles despite a one-day protest aimed to pressure oil companies to lower gas prices.

Although a gasoline boycott that began as an electronic mail campaign kept some drivers nationwide away from the pump, dealers say they saw little, if any, effect on their traffic.

In Seattle, there were so many cars waiting to get into Texaco station ... yesterday afternoon that it caused a backup five cars deep into right-hand lane.

Reports indicated few motorists paid attention to a nationwide boycott touted initially by Internet e-mail and later by word of mouth.

A planned nationwide boycott protesting the high price of gasoline didn't have much effect on local gas stations.

"We were expecting something substantial," said Mark Johnson, the owner of a Chevron station. "We haven't really noticed much of a difference."

Irving stations in sunny Halifax said the boycott had no effect on business.

"It's been busy as a bugger here," said Bruce Riley, manager of one station. "We haven't been busier in the last two weeks," added the manager at another Halifax outlet.

Gas stations reported "busier than ever" conditions at the pumps on the day of The Great Internet Gas-Out.
Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand. No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will lower its price in the long run; only a significant, ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal. Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient models, solutions they find unappealing.

An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some good by calling attention to a cause and sending a message. In this case, though, the only message being sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline that we can't even do without it for a few days to demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What supplier is going to respond to a message like that by lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a "message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for several months in a row.
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:27 PM
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9. Other:
this boycott is a dumb idea. Let the flames begin.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:41 PM
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10. Other: I use public transportation to work and fill my car up only once a month
On May 15th, I'll still have half a tank of gas.

So, I'll essentially boycott 30 days in May. Do I get a price?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:47 PM
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11. I won't. I had to fill up today.
Usually I get at least two weeks out of a full tank.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:48 PM
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12. I wont buy gas because theres none close to the local coffee shop
:popcorn:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:50 PM
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13. I won't - I don't have a car
Yippee for me.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:53 PM
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14. When is this urban myth going to stop floating around here!
:grr:

BTW, if you didn't have all those tolls in Delaware, you might be able to afford more gas!

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:19 PM
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23. Last time I paid a toll was in Fucking MARYLAND - I'm protesting Maryland on May 15th
On May 15th I vow to not step foot into the state of Maryland in protest of their tolls!!!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:34 PM
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28. So, FUCKING Deleware does not make their residents pay their
Edited on Thu May-10-07 11:34 PM by madinmaryland
own tolls?

:wtf:
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:53 PM
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15. Other: I own a Humvee and have to fill my tank twice a day, every day
:silly:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 03:54 PM
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16. People will just fill up on the 16th
:(
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:34 PM
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17. I'll buy as much damn gas as I want on the 15th.
This idea is stupid. It won't cost the oil companies SHIT, it won't send a message, they'll just laugh at it if they even notice which is highly UNlkely.
If you really want to make the oil companies notice, then take steps to use less gas.
That being said, I can't really do that because I have a long commute and car pooling/public transportation are NOT options. Sorry! I don't feel guilty though, because I have to make a living, and this is what I require in order to make my living.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:36 PM
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18. Thursday is pay-day
so that's when I will buy gas.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:42 PM
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19. I won't buy gas on the 15th
because I have a full tank now. I won't need any more gas for a month, maybe longer.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 04:44 PM
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20. Gas buyers hate America
:patriot:

(cuz if we all wait and buy it on the 16th or think ahead and buy it on the 14th it's gonna make any bottom line difference :eyes:)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:34 PM
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24. I don't own a car, but now I'm thinking...
maybe I could get one of those five-gallon metal gas cans just so I can fill it up on the 15th. :evilgrin:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:46 PM
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26. But you could buy the gas can and NOT fill it up on the 15th
and therefore you would be a part of the the boycott!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:49 PM
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27. BRILLIANT!
That'll teach the bastids.
;-)
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 05:42 PM
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25. I'm getting some Bean-o
so I won't even produce gas on the 15th. How green is that! Carbon ninja footprint!
:rofl:
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:19 AM
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29. It's $1.13 a litre
($4.30 a gallon)

That's the reason I'm not buying it anytime soon. Got it 'cheap' yesterday for $1.06/litre. I'll try to wait it out, to see if the price comes down a bit.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:35 AM
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30. It's unlikely, but only because I only fill up every couple of weeks. n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 02:07 AM
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31. I might eat mexican, does that count?
:shrug::D
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windlight Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:52 AM
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32. well i won't but
I'll be half way though a hiking trip where i won't have any outside connection at all.. :)
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:05 AM
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33. No car
but I think it's unlikely i would buy gas that day if i had one; most people fill up once a week, twice at most
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:42 AM
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34. I will not be buying gas on May 15th. Reason? I filled up today.
The prices are depressing, though. I looked at my fill-up logbook - three months ago, I bought 14 gallons of gas for about 30 bucks. Today, I bought 13 gallons of gas for about 43 bucks. One gallon less and considerably more dollars. *sigh*
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