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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:04 PM
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Why do Retardicans always want to deify their presidents?
We don't. Most of us liked Clinton, but saw him as a person still. Same with Carter.
The Retardicans always try to make out that their presidents are sent from God. Look how they talk about Reagan. to listen to him they think he was the next generation of humanity. Not only did he do NOTHING wrong, every word he said was a perfect bon mot with the wisdom of Solomon and the wit of Oscar Wilde.
Doesn't this strike anyone as psychologically unhealthy?
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:06 PM
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1. I agree with you
and did you makes that image urself. do you mind if I post it once on a website and give you credit for it?
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:08 PM
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2. it's a typical trait of
emperors to deify themselves. It's mostly because it is perceived that authority is supernaturally endowed. So a president can never be just o.k., he is either sent from Satan to enslave the U.S. in communism, or by Jesus himself to ensure the perpetuation of supply side economics and social darwinism.

All empires do it to justify their imperialism.
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jwcomer Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:08 PM
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3. You're looking at the trees not the forest.
This is part of a larger pattern. Consider the pedestals upon which we have placed: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, Madison, or more recently Kennedy.

But this isn't just Americans, it is something that is done in many nations.

Walton
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:09 PM
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4. The Goopers keep pumping up Reagan
In order to make him seem like he was a much better president than he actually was. Conservatives try to pretend that Reagan was some sort of conservative foil to FDR, and they try to pretend that he was FDR's right wing equivalent.

The problem is, they know in their hearts that FDR was 10 times the president that Reagan ever was. So does anyone who lived through the presidencies of both men.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:10 PM
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5. It sure does....
Ironically, anytime one mentioned in an online forum during the impeachment fiasco that, for example, a blow job wasn't actually a criminal act, or that illegal phone intercepts could not be considered legal evidence, or that in witness tampering someone other than the accused actually had to be a witness, one was immediately charged with being a "fanatical brownshirt Clinton worshiper."
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:11 PM
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6. Short answer: They are a cult.
Authoritarian.

Top-down organization.

Give us your money to prove your faith.

Disagree and you are a heretic.

We are the select few.

Non-members demonized.

Independent thinking discouraged.

Leader's (or leaders') wisdom comes directly from god (therefore, criticizing them is akin to blasphemy).

Rely on belief rather than facts and logical argument.

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FunBobbyMucha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:18 PM
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7. It stems from the same dynamic that...
makes the comparison between their love of their country and ours so valid. The comparison, roughly, is that they love America the way a child loves its mother, and Dems love it the way an adult in an adult, mature relationship loves their S.O. They love their presidents the same way.

I once started a comic I never finished, where theater-goers in 2010 are watching a holographic biopic epic about Rawhide. He would portrayed and illustrated just like that skyward-looking first shot of Clark Kent in "Dark Knight Returns," mythic in size and constitution. The sarcastic me character in the audience is forever angering other patrons by shouting things like "Nancy did not have a robot helper!"
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:25 PM
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8. Well, we deified JFK
Come on..."Camelot"?

JFK wasn't a great President, not by any means.

Terry
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:25 PM
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14. did you see that piece on him in the Best Democracy money can buy
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:28 PM
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9. It's part ot the paternal referencing they seem to adore.
You know, the 'father of the country' bullshit.

That's why they always vote for some authoritarian, strict white man who can quote the bible--so they can enjoy the same abuse as adults they enjoyed as children.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:10 PM
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10. I notice they don't do it with Bush the Elder
even the most rabid Norquist-following repugs are uneasy about Mr. CIA.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:36 PM
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11. It's hard to make an argument for the greatness of a President
Who was rejected by the American people and unseated as an incumbent.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:02 PM
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12. Because it's a miracle they were elected, when
they espouse such idiotic short-sighted policies.

It's no miracle when someone who espouses sensible ideas wins. When a nut-job like Reagan or Bush wins, THAT'S a miracle.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:20 PM
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13. Cult of personality is a hallmark of fascism.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:19 PM
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17. OK, Why?
Seriously, because you might be on to something. That, and the authority figure worshipping...
What does it do for the people that follow them?
I've always been curious about this. I understand liking a president, or his policies, but it seems like there's so many (with Reagan in particular, and now Bush) that want to have him canonized. It just seems way out of proportion.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:21 PM
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18. An abdication of thinking
To follow someone else who seems to have all the answers, relieves you of the burden of doing your own homework, discerning pros/cons and nuanced positions and actions.

It's a much easier life to not not think so much.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:28 PM
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15. They adore authority figures and hate those who challenge them.
I see this all the time - even at work. To me its a sign of emotional immaturity.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:35 PM
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16. A need to follow
seriously. I think it is a profound need to follow a leader. The choice of dimwits like Reagan and * lifted up as demi-gods says more about their followers need for authority figures to look up to than any inate characteristics on their part.



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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:27 PM
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19. one GOP family has a SHRINE to Poppy, Ronnie, and the Handsome Monkey King
it's creepy, to say the least
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:07 PM
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20. And what's weird, is that we didn't see this with most monarchs..
even in Europe, where some monarchs (*koff* *France* *koff*) really thought very highly of themselves. I mean, there was the whole royal respect bit, but I submit that it's no more - and maybe less - than what we've gotten into the habit of giving Presidents - and perhaps especially reub presidents. Maybe it's a genetic need. No, wait, I just said it didn't really happen to this degree with monarchs, esp in the 1800's for example. I can think of an Asian monarch who's got that whole God thing going, though - Kim Ilsung, late king of North Korea, and his son, Kim Jongil, the current king. Real cult-like worship. However, the actual Korean royalty (some of whom are still around) are not and mostly were not worshipped to that extent. So maybe it is a fascist rather than a monarchist thing. Interesting topic......
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Sir_Shrek Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:09 PM
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21. What is the term "Retardicans" supposed to mean?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:13 PM
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22. Well....If you have to ask....
:D
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Sir_Shrek Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:29 PM
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23. Yeah, I do...
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 05:29 PM by Sir_Shrek
I might be a little sensitive about using the word "retard" to imply something negative....
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:47 PM
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24. Retardicans?
I prefer not to mock those with disabilities, so I'll refrain from comment on what I think of that particular word. I'm not sure they deify their presidents so much as not ask them the tough questions that often need to be asked. Things tend to be easy for many Republicans as they see things very black and white when in reality, it's varying shades of gray.
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