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Doubtful Optimist Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 05:36 PM
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Anyone else have DAR ancestry?
My paternal grandmother was a DAR member for decades.

One of my distant relatives, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, signed the Declaration of Independence.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 05:37 PM
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1. I do. And my mother has researched our genealogy extensively.
We are also members of Colonial Dames. :)
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Doubtful Optimist Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 05:38 PM
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2. Way cool.
:cheers:
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 05:40 PM
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3. Thanks!
:hi: It's cool that you've got DAR ancestry too. :D
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 05:40 PM
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4. Were your ancestors legal imigrants?
Did they have permission from the Indians to move here? :P
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 05:42 PM
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5. American revolutionaries were terrorists, too...
Just think, we're all descended from terrorists who entered this country illegally. :P
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:41 PM
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59. I use that argument quite a bit.
Usually the idiots tell me to shut up and move.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 06:49 PM
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6. I do.
Supposedly I am descended from the Adams (not Addams) family and some other pre-Revolutionary characters. A great-aunt was very into the DAR, way back when.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:44 PM
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8. Lelapin and I both could
My mother's side of the family has been traced to 1694 New Amsterdam. On Lelapin's father's side, a relative signed the Declaration of Independence.
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LadyoftheRabbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:12 PM
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45. Yup
George Reid of Delaware signed, and the Constitution as well, I think. :)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:53 PM
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9. Some of my ancestors could have met the Mayflower...
Except that they were Iroquois and living on the New York/Canada border.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:18 PM
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10. Some of my ancestors were Colonists
I don't know for sure if they fought in that war though. Is that an important requirement?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:22 PM
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11. Yes, Family came over on the Earl of Donegal in 1767...
MrG has traced pretty far back.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:28 PM
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19. My dad can trace some of us back to the 1400s in England. Other family lines
stop dead in their tracks only a few generations back.

You guys came over on a much more elegant sounding ship. My hubby's family came in 1631 on a "Piebald Cow".
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:42 PM
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60. Interesting.
My family came over about the same time.

I don't know the name of the ship.
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:37 PM
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12. Yes. Some ncestors arrived in 1692 and one other was with Washington
when Cornwallis surrendered.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:38 PM
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13. I predate those jackoffs by about 50 thousand years
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:29 PM
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20. Sad to say, I can't make that claim myself.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:30 PM
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49. That's okay. I find silly people claiming glory because of a genetic link to 400 years ago
Who gives a fucking shit?

"I'm special because my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather was on the Mayflower"

or

"great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather fought in the Revolution".

Well, fuck all, I say - who cares? When you're 13 and 19 generations removed from something, that leaves about 92 million people who can claim a link to that person.

And who the hell cares what someone's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather did, anyway? "What the fuck did YOU do?" That's my question.

Hell, I can say with pretty good confidence "My ancestor was a fucking Emperor of Rome! In fact, a few of 'em were! And Pharaohs!"

:eyes:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:47 PM
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61. It's not something to brag about
(and I know people who do) but it can be interesting to know where you came from.

And being able to tell the chickenhawk assholes in my area that my family has fought in every war (or whatever we want to call them-actions) since the French and Indian War except this one will usually make them shut their mouths for a moment. This usually comes up whenever they demand to know why someone like myself or my brother isn't serving right now. The answer is that we've fought ever since the French and Indian War and by golly(!), our family deserves a break.

Besides, my brother served in the 90's. Not his fault that Clinton declare war on the Middle East.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:50 PM
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14. Yeah, but
I never bothered to join. Those in my family who cared about this stuff traced us back to the court of King Henry VIII. They came over shortly after the Mayflower.

Whatever. I'm here now. I'm the one who's left. Ask me if I care. I didn't pick my relatives. I didn't pick my ancestors. I am not into ancestor worship. They could have been shitty people for all I know. They could have been cool. I have no idea.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:51 PM
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15. delete, duplicate post
Edited on Mon May-21-07 09:52 PM by Mz Pip
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:52 PM
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16. One of my ancestors fought alongside Ethan Allen
in the Green Mountain Boys, and my aunt has this documented. Two of my cousins are DAR, but I could never see the point.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:53 PM
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17. Yep...
One of my Dad's ancestors for sure.... my sister joined and still nags me to do the paperwork. Another of Dad's ancestors received a plaque or something for donating 700 pounds of beef to General Washington's army.

The earliest of my forebears arrived here in 1635 to Jamestown. He was a real stinker -- lost his money for calling out another settler for unchristian behavior. Had to pay up in bacon or something. mmmmmm bacon.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:27 PM
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18. I could be on several branches of the tree, but we don't make a big deal of it in my family
I mean, we're proud to have been here so long, but we're just as proud of the family who arrived not so long ago. (My Nana is first and second generation American, but she lives in a house that my grandfather's ancestors built during the Revolutionary war. :) )
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:36 PM
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21. Jamestown and Revolutionary War
My family was First Settlement at Jamestown; two g+grandfathers were Continental Army and Minutemen.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:54 PM
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22. One g+grandfather was a colonial magistrate in 17th. C Maryland
And the other half of my family came here shortly after WW I. They're equally important to me.

Never did understand the fetish to prove pre-Revolutionary European
descent.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:58 PM
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23. I'm a direct descendant of King Tut.
Oh! And Charlemagne too!

And I'm a reincarnation of a 15th century fishwife and possibly Harry Houdini's uncle.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:48 PM
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62. I bet you really have some great stories
about the life of a 15th century fishwife.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:18 AM
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24. yes
The most recent member of my family to be a DAR member was my great grandmother, who belonged to a Meriden CT chapter. I have her paperwork and it would be a snap to add the additional info and do it. But most members seem so conservative!

An ancestor is George Read, a signer of the Declaration of Independence.

I am also eligible for the Mayflower Society; a descendent of pilgrims John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley. (So is George W. Bush, gack.)

I love thinking about my heritage, but know that unless I am as willing to sacrifice for liberty, the lineage means nothing. I try to keep that in mind every day.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:50 PM
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42. I've marched in several anti-war protests
with a "I'm a DAR against the WAR" sign. Okay, so I'm not in the DAR anymore, but the :wow: looks from shrubbie supporters are priceless!

dg
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:20 AM
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25. ~
:blush:

:hi:

i have the info on how to join on my mother's side of the family but, is it something i would be interested in doing? i would prolly freak the little blue haired ladies out:)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:25 AM
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26. All my ancestors were penniless indigents fleeing famine/abusive families/the law
As far as I can tell, they all showed up on our hallowed shores sometime between the Civil War and World War I.

Good times. :D
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:09 AM
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27. You and me both.
Except that the Canucks (Dad's side) came over from Scotland sometime in the 1720's. An ancestor fought you Yanks.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:21 AM
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28. You don't want to shake our family tree
There'll be all kinds of crap falling from the branches, but on the paternal side they got to PA in 1773 and being pissed at the english promptly joined the movement, I guess it runs in the family.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:28 AM
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29. Someone in my family traced us back
To the Mayflower. Evidentally back to John Alden and Pricilla Mullens. I think she (unknown family member) wanted to join some club like that. I guess the "proof" wasn't good enough for them.

:shrug:
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:51 AM
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30. Yes.....
my paternal ancestors fought in the revolutionary war.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:21 AM
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31. both sides came over in 1636, but didn't join the DAR!
who da thunk.

Massachusetts, without visas or passports.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:29 AM
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32. I have no relations to the Beastmaster that I know of
I hadn't realized Dar the Beastmaster had that big of a family!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:41 AM
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33. My maternal aunt
loved doing family geneaology and did trace their family back to a revolutionary war hero. And I'm glad she had a hobby she enjoyed and gave our family a history we can all share.

I think it's interesting for the history of it and certainly knowing my ancestors, but I'm not into the whole DAR business. It's too officious and heirarchical for my taste.

True Story: when I first moved to DC, I interviewed at the DAR for a job as a typist. I didn't know anything about them as an organization or employer, just the name and their function. They were nice enough, I suppose, but I got uneasy when they told me about the different offices you can hold in the DAR and these, well,
royalist-sounding (to me) titles. Complete turn off.

Plus they made Marion Anderson sing on the steps of the Licoln Memorial instead of using the DAR Hall. You could argue that made a far better and more memorable concert, but leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:11 AM
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34. My Mother-In-Law
You name it, she's in it: DAR, Daughters of the War of 1812 (and every other war), etc...

She's serious about her ancestry stuff...
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Silver Swan Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:44 AM
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35. Maybe
One of my great-great grandmothers always boasted that her great grandfather signed the Declaration of Independence.

However, modern day genealogy suggests she was either lying or mistaken! The signer was apparently an uncle or cousin of the great-grandfather.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:41 AM
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36. I'm not exactly the DAR/SAR type, but I have 4 Rev War
ancestors on mom's side, 2 were in the Continental Army from MA (a father and son) and 2 were in the French Navy and fought the British in the Battle of the Virginia Capes off Yorktown.

My cousin is very into genealogy and has mom's branch of the family traced way back. Dad's side we don't know much about, only a couple of generations back from me. My grandfather on that side came through Ellis Island in 1895 from Galicia, present day Ukraine.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:47 AM
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37. Well, I haven't joined the DAR....
but, all three of my ancestors I've found so far, arrived here before 1740.

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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:04 PM
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38. Same with my paternal grandmother.
That side of the family goes back to The Mayflower and she once tried to get me to join the DAR as well. Not really my thing though. It feels like cultural elitism to celebrate the fact that I come from a line of power and privilege (and persecution of others) due to my anglo-saxon heritage.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:53 PM
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39. My daugher could be a member of DAR...through her dad
through me she is related to Northern and Southern European peasants...
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:55 PM
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40. NOPE! My ancestors were 'Strangers' on the Mayflower and they hightailed it to...
Massachusetts' Maine frontier and minded their own business in peace for over two hundred years before they felt enough civilization had been established in that little experiment down south for them to show their faces again.

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:09 PM
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44. My one Mayflower ancestor was a servant
and troublemaker in the colony. My branch hightailed it to Maine early on too.

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:42 PM
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46. One of my 'Stranger' ancestors was a servant to Winslow...
but he was also tight with 'Strangers' John Alden and Miles Standish; troublemaking can be subjective ;)

Where in Maine?

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:56 PM
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47. That line I believe ended up midcoast.
Mine was servant to a Hopkins(?) and was a compact signer. He stayed in the Plymouth Colony but the later generations moved north to the Fox Islands and Camden/L'ville areas. I can't be more specific without looking it up in my family files -- I have many Maine lines that date back to the early days. Some were York and Scarborough area settlers too. The York lines have some troublemakers too, according to the court records ;-)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:14 PM
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51. All adult males signed the Compact
If the Saints didn't hire those pesky Strangers, there would have been little need for the Compact. The Compact, in essence, was just a feeble attempt to keep the 'troublemakers' in check; it only retarded the inevitable.

Oh, you should be proud to be related to Edward Doty, participant in the first duel in America. Now, that's what I call real troublemaking, and no doubt your family oral history justifies Edward's actions! ;)

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:29 PM
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52. Told you he was a troublemaker n/t
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:29 PM
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56. LOL!
:thumbsup:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:47 PM
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41. On both sides of my family
Multiple lines, too. Best one? One Tozer who showed up in the early morning hours of April 19, 1775 to fire off a few rounds at some redcoats at some bridge near Lexington & Concord.

(which is how generations of my family knew that it wasn't Paul Revere who warned the Minute Men of the red coats' approach, but William Dawes)

dg
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:03 PM
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43. yeah
I believe Dar was on my mom's side of the family :P

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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:22 PM
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48. We are related by marriage. My 13th Great grandfather was
Edited on Tue May-22-07 05:22 PM by BlueStateGirl
a good friend of Charles Carroll. One of his daughters, I believe her name was AnnE Porter, married a Carroll son.

I am currently working on a DAR application. And by currently I mean for 4 years. I 3 relatives that fought in the Revolutionary War. It has been hard to get all the documentation for teh app.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:09 PM
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50. yes, a direct descendant.
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siouxsiecreamcheese Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:36 PM
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53. on my father's side
my grandmother is a member. Their ancestry dates back to the Mayflower and also to Jamestown. After that the Revolution and a few marriages into some Native American tribes. After that I have no idea where it branched off.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:38 PM
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54. I think so, on my father's side.
I think I have some relatives in it, but it's really not my kind of thing.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:48 PM
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55. Women
Women on both sides of my family are DAR and my mom was also Daughters of the Mayflower. We've been here for forever...<g>

I wouldn't join any of these groups. They tend to be very conservative.
Lee
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:38 PM
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57. Nope. DIPF
Daughters of the Irish Potato(e) Famine.

Among other various obscure lines.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:40 PM
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58. My family were revolutionaries.
As a matter of fact, my family changed the spelling of their name during that time. Those that sided w/ the British kept the original spelling and those who did not changed a vowel.

It's kind of cool.
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