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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:29 PM
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Hypnotoad was right all along
Firefly is an excellent sci-fi series. For awhile I thought "Man, they're running through the same old stories just through a different light" but Firefly has actually ascended that level, broken free of that particular gravitional pull of a black-hole and created some good and likable characters, good stories, and something you would want to tune into next week.

Ooops. Canceled.

Further proof downloading selected shows *and paying 4 or 5 bucks for each episode* would be far more successful than the shit on tv.

end rant

Rock on HT

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:39 PM
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1. Firefly rocks!
eom.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:20 PM
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2. The DVD order is the proper order; FOX aired it out of sequence too...
I don't think FOX was expecting anything remotely intelligent either... Heck, it's fox, if it doesn't jiggle or blow up with lots of blood or swear for no reason and lack intelligence regardless regardless of the crudity, they usually don't care.

Thx for the compliment. :)

Oh, you'll LOVE "Serenity".

What bothers me are all the references given to "Star Wars" as inspiration. While partly true, there are a lot of scenes and more pinpointly dialogue, that suggests "Blake's 7" was a bigger influence. And only in a good way because "Firefly" doesn't seem a derivative of B7 at all. (Just as B7 wasn't a derivative of Star Trek, The Great Escape, The Magnificent Seven, et al... I'd also say "Star Wars" except B7 hit the airwaves at roughly the same time SW had... )


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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:37 PM
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5. I was watching it in the DVD order
because a co-worker was lending it to me (and the rest of the office for that matter) in DVD order. I did find the 'real' order it should have been seen on the Internet, and perhaps my mistake was seeing "Serenity" the movie first, but I can see how it all comes together regardless of tv air-dates or the dvd-numbers.

Anyway: :hi:
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:41 PM
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6. It Was A Western In Space
Edited on Sun May-27-07 10:42 PM by iamjoy
I never really thought of it like Star Wars. There was no "magic" (the Force). The government was nasty and oppressive, but not the kind who would deliberately obliterate an entire planet. In that sense, it departed from the Western theme and was almost a political statement against totalitarianism.

But for the most part, it was like a western. The crude, frontier conditions. And of course, the characters - even having a different twist on that old "hooker with the heart of gold" bit.

I loved Firefly. I was disappointed in Serenity. Some of the plot developments were very upsetting. Plus, it seemed like there were some discrepancies between what was laid out in the series and in the movie.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 07:09 AM
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7. Neither had I. Joss himself likes to say it was a major influence.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm

Star Wars - which Whedon has conceded had "an enormous influence" on Serenity - came second in the survey.

:)

The twist on the hooker subplot (in 'Shindig'?) was eminently thought-provoking.

The one thing that bugged me in "Serenity" was the uber-cheezy "Mr. Universe" guy, which also led to the usual magical cop-out to end the movie on a grand scale that ultimately destroys the Alliance, yadda yadda...

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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:25 PM
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3. Yup to all of that. n/t
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:30 PM
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4. Firefly and Serenity were awesome.
Stupid Fox. Cancelling Nathan Fillion on Firefly AND Drive?

:grr:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 07:10 AM
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8. They canceled 'Futurama' too.
FOX has a history of canceling things long before their time.

Even that rabid skit show with Kelsey Grammer wasn't given a chance...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 10:51 AM
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9. Yet, King of the Hill went on for how many seasons?
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