I'm watching "Jesus Camp" and it's alternately making me physically ill

crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 07:46 PM
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I'm watching "Jesus Camp" and it's alternately making me physically ill

and making me cry. I'm taking a break and comforting myself with ice cream.

Going back now. Fuck it's horrible.

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VenusRising

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Fri Jun-08-07 07:47 PM
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1. Good luck!

You are a brave, brave woman. :hug:

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:44 PM
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7. I don't think so. I'm shivering.

:afraid:

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Hugin

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Fri Jun-08-07 07:48 PM
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2. ...

Dang, when did you get my SO's phone number? She's hollering for me to go get
some Ice Cream as we post.

Hmmpf, must be some kind of harmonic confluence or something.

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:44 PM
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6. You shouldn't. The ice cream made me feel ill as well!

I really wish I hadn't. :(

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Initech

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Fri Jun-08-07 07:48 PM
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3. Yeah, that movie is fucking scary.

I watched it and was more scared than the first time I saw The Shining. :scared:

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:45 PM
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8. The adults in the movie scare the crap out of me.

The kids are just sad little things.

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Guava Jelly

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Fri Jun-08-07 07:50 PM
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4. You just need a good saven!!!

:silly: Repent Liberal!!!! :sarcasm:

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:47 PM
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10. I've been saved about three times in my life already.

I've accepted JC as my Lord and Savior but he has never been interested. I've searched for as long as I can remember for "the" answer and it took the shrub to make me realize that the answer isn't with "God". It's with us, the people. We have to save ourselves from the fanatics and the fools. :D

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Guava Jelly

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:55 PM
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16. Holy Shit!!!!!

Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 08:56 PM by GoPsUx

We are so on the same level!
" We have to save ourselves "
As well as love ourselves if we don't who will? :)
You sound very healthy.
:D :pals:
:hug:

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:05 PM
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17. Well, I expect you to love me no matter what.

:D :pals: :hug: :loveya:

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Guava Jelly

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:27 PM
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21. How could i not ??

you know i just

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:31 PM
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22. ...

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SPKrazy

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:34 PM
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5. It sounds spooky to me..

Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 08:46 PM by Southpawkicker

:scared:

I've read enough about dominionists, and about this movie, to be totally scared of the Christo-Fascists that exist in the communities of our country.

In fact I'm afraid that I might be waiting to hear from one :rofl: (on edit: maybe they aren't a Christo Fascist, and it was no big deal :D)

:hi:

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:48 PM
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11. It's the sweet little kids' faces

looking so rapt, trying to absorb what they're being taught... that's what makes it terrible to watch.

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Bjornsdotter

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:46 PM
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9. I just got it from Netflix today

...but I haven't watched it yet.

Cheers

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:49 PM
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12. I wish you well.

Tell me what you think when you've seen it!

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Bjornsdotter

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:55 PM
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15. I will

...I'm going to try and watch it this week-end.

I'll let you know.

Cheers

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Adenoid_Hynkel

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:51 PM
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13. Papantonio's great in that film

as the voice of sanity

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:08 PM
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18. True. I'd never heard of him before.

However, his telling Becky what'shername about what God wants, and about God's special place for those who mess with kids... it underscored how even he uses his God as a frame of reference and a means by which to define others' Gods and their behavior. That really struck me. Where does one draw the line? Clearly, the line MUST be drawn between Church and State and frankly I don't give a fuck if the founding fathers didn't believe that (though I think they did.) Religious dogmatism is the enemy of democracy.

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Adenoid_Hynkel

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:23 PM
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20. he's on AAR every weekend with Bobby Kennedy-check out www.ringoffireradio.com

I interviewed him recently and will post it here next week

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:32 PM
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23. Cool! I look forward to reading your post.

Thanks.

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marzipanni

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Sat Jun-09-07 03:03 AM
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29. Here is a YouTube with Mike Papantonio and Becky Fischer (the Jesus Camp woman)

on Good Morning America, with clips from the film-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBWG4U1ul20

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Taverner

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Fri Jun-08-07 08:52 PM
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14. Brainwashing at its finest

Never trust someone who evades logic

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:09 PM
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19. I don't. That sort of thing makes the hair on the back of my neck

stand up. Then again, we "intellectuals" and "scientific thinkers" give the evangelists the willies, too.

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EstimatedProphet

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:43 PM
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24. Yeah, it is really disturbing how the kids are treated in that movie

There's a scene about halfway through where the kids are telling themselves ghost stories by flashlight in their bunkhouse. Just being kids, that's all. Then of course the camp director guy has to come in and tell them they will all go to Hell because they are behaving so badly, because telling ghost stories and having fun is sinful.

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crim son

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Fri Jun-08-07 09:51 PM
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25. Yeah.

It also bothered me how they'd get the kids all worked up about their "sins" and make them cry and feel guilty. The little blonde boy who had such trouble believing... he was always so serious or actually crying. I wanted to scoop him up and save him from all the bullshit.

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murielm99

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Sat Jun-09-07 04:16 AM
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31. He was the one who got to me, too.

Maybe it is because he looks so much like my son at that age. My son was a serious kid, too.

That Becky woman is a classic bully.

My husband was bothered by the movie. He said it was almost too much to watch it.

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GalleryGod

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Fri Jun-08-07 11:03 PM
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26. Jest have another L.I. iced tea,Dearie!

:toast:

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crim son

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Sat Jun-09-07 07:31 AM
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32. Oh bah on you!

I had ice cream, not a LIIT! :hi: No drinking; I have to write a paper today.

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Starbucks Anarchist

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Sat Jun-09-07 12:23 AM
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27. What kind of ice cream?

This is what I have in the freezer:

?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1932BBB80AB57C976026F48A85080A2A619A348D7DE27DB4AF5

:D

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crim son

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Sat Jun-09-07 07:32 AM
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33. The website "declined to let me view" it.

What was it? I need to know.

Oh, the ice cream was cheap vanilla and not very good. Today I go back to my no-sugar diet :eyes: Hi SA!

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Starbucks Anarchist

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Sat Jun-09-07 10:54 AM
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37. Stephen Colbert's Americone Dream.

:hi:

Vanilla, caramel, and waffle cone. :D

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shanti

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Sat Jun-09-07 12:34 AM
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28. oh no!

i saw that last weekend and felt the same way :( so THIS is what we're up against! i felt so bad for those robot kids.

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crim son

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Sat Jun-09-07 07:33 AM
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34. Isn't it funny... one feels bad for the kids but the adults

are despicable.

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Wetzelbill

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Sat Jun-09-07 03:43 AM
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30. It is wild, that Harry Potter blow up Becky has

I was like "OMFG!" Then when those kids are crying! That just had me awestruck. And not in a good way.

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crim son

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Sat Jun-09-07 07:34 AM
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35. Yes.

When these people show up at my doorstep or invite themselves in for coffee it's weird enough. I had no idea what goes on behind the scenes.

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huskerlaw

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Sat Jun-09-07 10:36 AM
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36. I couldn't finish it

It freaked me out too much. Well...freaked me out, pissed me off...I'm not sure which emotion was stronger. Regardless, I didn't figure it ended well, so I gave up.

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crim son

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Sat Jun-09-07 11:40 AM
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38. I almost did, about a third of the way into it. Then my daughter

decided she wanted to watch with me, so we finished it together. I'm glad we did, but much of the point was made during the first few minutes of the film.

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