Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Downloading music to mp3

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:24 PM
Original message
Downloading music to mp3
I download music files on RealOne and Musicmatch Jukebox for .99 a song. These are regarded as licensed or protected files. Yet, my mp3 player does not accept protected files. Does anyone understand the rationale behind this? I paid for the music. Why can't I download my music to the mp3?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:27 PM
Response to Original message
1. Are you talking about your MP3 player?
Most should accept a variety of formats: mp3, Wma (windows media player files) and others. Or, are you trying to burn it to a cd? I've generally had no problem playing purchased files either on my computer or Mp3 player.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Trying to download from My Music folders, which stores my
Edited on Fri Jun-22-07 11:33 PM by Jack Sprat
purchased mp3 music files. When I try to transfer the files to my mp3, it actually shows them transferring, but there is nothing out there. Then, I read in the instruction manual that protected files cannot be put on the mp3 player. This is what puzzles me. These are downloaded files purchased from RealOne and Musicmatch Jukebox online.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. What kind of Mp3 player?
You might be able to work around it but burning the files to a cd, then re-uploading it.

A good source for non-protected files is Emusic.com. It is all from independent labels, so mostly no huge names (although they do have the latest Paul McCartney).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. It is a Nextar, a cheapie that I bought as my first
MP3 player experience. I thought for 3 days that I was just doing something wrong, but the manual clearly states that protected files, (whether mp3 or wma) will not download to the player. That stopped me from trying anymore, at least. I can take a store bought CD and download it to the mp3 player, but my purchased downloads from online stores will not. I was just curious about why that is. Thanks for trying to help. I already tried putting those files on a CD/RW and then transferring those to the mp3 player, but it did not work.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #6
12. I have an Iriver H10
One they do not make anymore but I have no trouble loading any purchased material on to it. I used to use one of the subscription services like Napster or Rhapsody. I no longer do that but I sometimes buy songs from Napster. I have no idea if those are protected files or notEven my Ipod Shuffle will play them, if I transfer them first to Itunes.

My advice would be to buy a different player; there are plenty that are not very expensive. But check the documentation first to see what files it will play.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I am talking about my mp3 player. They are stored in my
library as mp3 files, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:40 PM
Response to Original message
5. What kind of mp3 player?
If you have a iPod they wont play. Apple didn't pay Microsoft to give the iPod the ability to play Windows Media files.

Actual mp3 files should play on anything without a problem. Most of the songs you buy from online music stores use a proprietary format. Such as wmp files on most of the stores other than iTunes and emusic. iTunes uses aac with a DRM wrapper known as FairPlay. EMI is now selling DRM free tracks and I expect others to follow.

Unfortunately, you are basically fucked. this was the plan with DRM. They wanted to make things really difficult so you don't give away your music. Legal users are caught in the crossfire.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. I think you have it. I knew there had to be some
justification, whether it was fair or not. It isn't fair to me because I bought my downloads, but it doesn't help. I am glad I bought a cheap mp3 player for this experiment. I had no idea that I couldn't put my downloads on it. Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 11:57 PM
Response to Original message
8. Have you tried burning a CD of the files and then bring them back into the
computer from the disk? I know there is some way to get around it with a Mac and an iPod. I would think it would work the same way. I'm just not sure of the details. I think the trick is to make the CD in the CD music format instead of MP3 format. Convert the music to an uncompressed format, burn the CD, and then transfer the files back into the computer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. I have Windows XP. I think that I have tried that, but
I tried so many things over a 3 day period that I can't remember all I did. It will work transferring store bought CDs, but it just will not accept those online music purchase downloads. I may try that once more, just to cover all the bases. Thanks. Computer files can be real frustrating, especially if you are attempting something new for the first time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. The iTunes workaround is to burn an AUDIO CD
Edited on Sat Jun-23-07 01:01 AM by gmoney
with iTunes, you can remove the DRM by having iTunes burn your songs as an AUDIO cd (that would play in a regular CD player), rather than just files on a CD-R. This CD can be re-ripped in iTunes (or another program) to MP3 files that can play on virtually any MP3 player.

I dislike the common misconception that an iPod only plays songs purchased from the Apple music store in iTunes. That's backwards...iPods can play MP3, AIFF, and a few other formats, not to mention some of them play video. To my knowledge, the Apple proprietary iTunes format will ONLY play on an iPod or in iTunes (or can be ripped to an AUDIO cd). iTunes music store is offering music with the DRM removed that should play in anything. I believe there is a 30-cent per song premium to get the non-DRM tracks, but full album pricing should remain the same. You can also upgrade previously purchased music to the non-DRM format just by paying the 30-cent upcharge. Not all their content is available in the non-DRM format, but I think they're planning to go that way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. About the upgraded stuff
It's both non-DRM and has a doubled (or increased somehow) sample rate. Most of the time, you can't tell the difference, but there are times when it is very noticable. And I may be mistaken on this, but I believe all of the current non-DRM stuff is available as a result of an agreement with EMI, so it'll be mostly their artists available under the non-DRM, higher bitrate setting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 07:36 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC