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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 03:34 PM
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Anyone else think the new Harry Potter movies is all about The Bush Administration and the GWOT?
I don't want to give away any spoilers, so I'll keep it to a few superficial things:

The bad guy and his minions all have the letter "M" as their symbols. An upside-down "W."
The retarded giant looked exactly like Ronald Reagan.
The Umbrage lady looks and dresses like Pickles Bush.

And the plot of the story, about the usurpation of academic and personal freedom...

Again, I'm not going to spoil the plot and go on with any more.

But did anyone else get the impression that J.K. Rowling is not a big fan of Bush and Blair?


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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 03:36 PM
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1. Comparing Grawpy to Reagan isn't fair to Grawp..
But yeah, i got that impression too. I thought this movie had a much more political undertone than the others.. I loved it :evilgrin:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 03:51 PM
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2. Here's some commentary I found online
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

By far the darkest of the five Potter pictures so far, ''Order of the Phoenix'' sees Harry (Daniel Radcliffe) once again up against the dark magic of Lord Voldemort (Ralph Fiennes) – but this time the bespectacled wizard and his ally Professor Dumbledore (Michael Gambon) have to fight with their hands tied in red tape, courtesy of ministry leader Dolores Umbridge (Imelda Staunton). Our hero is also battling with young adulthood, young love, and Jungian dream sequences. Suffice to say, things get a little hairy for Potter.

Those tuning in to the series without the benefit of reading the books might find themselves lost in a lavish digital landscape with a cast of millions, for the movie doesn’t burden itself with more than stringing together the highlights of the saga so far. That said, this story is the least kinetic of Harry’s adventures. Perhaps that is why the longest book translated into the shortest of the ''Potter'' movies. But don’t worry, it still feels pretty long.

Drama here borders on ''Star Wars: Episode I''-style exposition and the humour of the first three films remains, though it’s much more sardonic. Laughs are centred around the power-hungry Professor Umbridge, who looks and acts disturbingly like Geroge W Bush (and has his wife’s sense of style).

More:
http://www.moviehole.net/reviews/20070711_harry_potter_and_the_order_of.html




This post below is from an apparently right-wing, anti-muslim and anti-Bush source:


Superman, Harry Potter and the War Against Jihad
Fjordman - 7/9/2007

I have commented that there is an undercurrent of anti-Western self-loathing permeating parts of our popular culture and our news media. There is. But there are also some other trends worth studying.

<snip>

Far from being “silly books for children,” the story of Harry Potter in fact contains murder, betrayal and terrorism, but also bravery as well as some highly politically incorrect ideas about Just War. In Harry Potter’s fictional Britain, some people are simply evil and should be confronted and crushed, and if necessary killed. In real life Britain, the government afraid to name the enemy, and launch ridiculous attempts at dialogue with terrorists. Let’s see: Naming your enemy, confronting him to defeat him and, if necessarily kill him. Thumbs up for Harry Potter, thumbs down for the government. Isn’t it a bit sad that the main person left in the UK standing up to and clearly identifying evil is a fictional teenager?

Former British PM Tony Blair has confessed to reading the Koran, which he has praised for its wisdom. The Bush administration has added a copy of the Koran to the White House library, and one must hope that some of them read it. Perhaps somebody should quietly slip them a copy of the Lord of the Rings or the latest book about Harry Potter. Maybe our Western leaders could learn something about Just War, identifying your enemy and confronting evil from these books.

There is more wisdom in the tales of Harry Potter than there ever will be in the Koran.
Fjordman is a noted Norwegian blogger who has written for many conservative web sites. He used to have his own Fjordman Blog in the past, but it is no longer active.

More:
http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=3071&cid=11&sid=63



SPOILER ALERT PAST THIS POINT!



Also:


Harry Potter Battles Big Brother


by James Murtagh Page 1 of 1 page(s)
http://www.opednews.com
"Order of the Phoenix" flies into philosophy, civics, religion, ethics; transporting Potter to new ethereal realms

A funny thing besets Harry Potter on the way to Hogwarts this year. He not only has to battle evil. He has to battle the banality of evil. More importantly, he introduces his viewers to a whole new realm of ideas.

Orwell is the real unseen ghost of “Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix”. Hogwarts becomes ruled by, a mindless 1984-like bureaucracy, where Ignorance is Bliss, Slavery is the Freedom, and War is Peace. A cold war descends, graying newly bleak walls with Stalinist-type propaganda. The news media becomes a mouthpiece for the corrupt establishment, creating perfect soil for the real evil, Lord Voldemort, to prepare a blitzkrieg. Sure, all wizards and witches are equal, but some are more equal.

The delusional, self-righteous McCarthyite leader of the Ministry of Magic ignores facts, apparently believing he is divinely inspired. Sound familiar? No doubt, future wizards and witches will write term papers on why England slept as the storm gathered.

Even witches conduct witch trials, it appears. Harry has to appear before a rigged kangaroo court that gives him less due process than Salem gave witches. Harry is exonerated at the last minute, but it is clear the witches and wizards persecute their own much more effectively than normal humans (muggles).

<snip>

This is a new delightfully complex Potter. Harry Potter helped children worldwide to love reading. Now, ever so quietly, and insidiously, Rowling weaves in advanced philosophy, human freedom, religion, and ethics. Young viewers sop up new lessons possibly without realizing. Even better, they are discussing and debating these ideas with their friends, in a whole new domino effect. In short, Rowling may kindle a rebirth in critical thinking, just as she kindled her original boom in reading.

Rowling's spell over young readers delivers her most valuable message: “Distrust authority- all authority.”

As Harry Potter himself says:

“Let the rebellion begin.”

More:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_james_mu_070713_harry_potter_battles.htm
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 03:57 PM
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3. I saw it on a whim yesterday
and the political undertones are definitely there, and they're not all that subtle!
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 04:03 PM
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4. I noticed the "W".
It was on screen while they were talking about the evil that had come back, or something like that.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 04:04 PM
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5. There was a "W" for "Weasley" during a "Shock and Awe" moment. n/t
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 04:54 PM
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6. wasn't there a scene in the 6th book where the British PM ....
... mentally refers to someone as "that wretched man"? The book doesn't say so directly, but we know he's referring to a President ... and the implication is that it's the US leader (because who else would be powerful enough to MAKE a Prime Minister wait around at all hours for a phone call?).
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 05:01 PM
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7. Prof. Umbridge WAS Laura Bush
some of her facial expressions were DEAD ON. As were her clothes. And her attitude.

Also, her crazy laws were very reminiscent of NCLB.

I agree, it's a not-so-thinly-veiled swipe at BushCo. Although much of that would have been decided by the director, not J.K. Rowling.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 06:19 PM
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8. And some might have been references to British stuff we've never heard of.
But No Child Left Behind was so, so SO painfully obvious.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 08:17 PM
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9. Indeed I Did
that was about the only redeeming quality to the movie for me

:shrug:
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