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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:18 PM
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A woman who's staying with me got her identity stolen by a woman
who she hired to drive her to work. (she can't drive because of eyesite) She has a really good job.(speech therapist) makes good money. (90k) It's been a nightmare. None of the corporations will shut down the accounts! (The thief is a better customer) Her bank won't close the account even though we filed a criminal complaint. We had to drag the sherriff in the bank IN PERSON to force them to do something. they said they'd close the account but they haven't. She is still getting charged 29 dollars per bounced check. JC Penney said they would change the account no and send her a new card but they haven't and they even raised the credit limit 400 dollars. The thief is on a shopping spree. She's even bought a car for 6000 dollars. The victim had a cell phone account with Verizon. The thief added herself and her daughter to the account and raised the minutes by 3000. Verizon fraud depentment REFUSED to shut the phones down (they said they would send the their a letter) We had to drag the sherriff IN PERSON over to the thiefs house to grab the phones. Now Verison wants 1200 dollars. Now the theif is getting loans in her name. Paycheck advance loans from B&L Marketing and student loans for she daughter. She got a credit card, she's shopping online. Even though she knows she's going to prison, SHE'S STILL SPENDING MONEY! The victims dad is a lawyer. Good thing. She's going to declare bankruptcy. The business bastards are so arrognant they will probably want her to pay the bills anyway. ONLY the government run post office did anything to help us. We called once and had her mail stopped (the thief was stealing it). They held it with no problem. If the corporations were only run like the goverment!
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:26 PM
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1. That's disgraceful, and fuckin' scary!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:27 PM
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2. Sheesh. What the flying fuck is wrong with people.
Rich, poor, inbetween, what's the point of having a society if few want to act civilized anymore?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:57 PM
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5. It's a really bad situtation. I should probably explain it more....
I know the thief. She was a friend of mine.(or thought she was) I met her thru her cousin. But I haven't seen her very much for the last three years. She lives in another town. Last month she calls me and asked if this woman, her boss can stay at my house for a couple of weeks. It's seems that the woman, I'll call her Jane was going in and out of the mental ward because she was scratching herself and having mental breakdowns. The hospital wouldn't release her if she stayed by herself. The thief, I'll call her Betty has kids so her house was to hectic. I have a spare room so I said yes. The first day when the woman got out of the hospital Betty dropped her off here then left. Jane was real drugged up. The second or third night she stayed her she called her parents. Then Jane's whole family started calling here. Betty went balistic. Jane started scratching herself and the next day she was back in the hospital. Jane had about 450.00 dollars cash. Half in her drawer and half in her purse. When I was checking Jane in the hospital Betty showed up so I left and came home. Betty came over with Janes purse put it in the bedroom then left. Jane called later from the hospital and told me she said Betty could have 20.00 dollars. So I counted her money and the bitch took 250.00. I knew a had a problem so when my sister got home we talked and decided to help Jane. jane got out of the hospital and Betty started calling wanting 188.00 for car insurance. I told her I toke janes money for food but she wouldn't stop. I had to work the next day so my sister and Jane were home alone. Betty kept calling wanting 188.00. When I got home I FIRED HER! the next day Both my sister and I were at work and Betty started calling Jane and telling her to Burn in Hell (Janes a Christian) Jane got freaked out and called 911 telling the police she was going to kill herself (with a knife) so the police came and took her back to the hospital. That night I called Janes family and asked them to help and things got moving.

I have to explain that Betty and Jane were neighbors. Jane's husband died last October. She's was very dependent on him cause she can't drive. Jane was in grief. She also has a daughter who is terminally ill and a son 15! Betty put her daughter in a nursing home(to get her out of the way and charged Jane 1000.00 for her services) and Betty's son accused Jane's son of trying to molest him so Betty put Janes son in a group home.

This was some really evil shit. Betty isolated Jane and was turning her into a slave. She even beat her up once. Poor Jane's only way of getting away was getting put into the hospital. And do you want to here something chilling. Betty right now has an ad on the internet offering to be a friend to anyone "going thru bad times". It's just fucking amazing. Betty is reminding me of that woman in the movie "Misery". It's that evil.

It's not just a regular ID theft case. It's more like spousal abuse or kidnapping.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:00 PM
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7. okay WOW
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 01:00 PM by pitohui
you have a big heart, joanne, honestly, in your shoes i would get both of these screwed-up people out of my lives immediately

this is a job for professionals, i don't think this is something you can take on without getting hurt yourself
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:04 PM
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9. Betty going to prison. It's in the prosecutors hands now. She had a prior for bad checks so
she's screwed. Jane's a really good person. Her family is doing most of the work now. But it was pretty scary there for a few days. She can stay with us until she gets her own place. She probably should not be alone anyway. Betty is still on the loose.
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:43 PM
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3. The Post Office rocks when it comes
to dealing with stolen mail. My husband & I were victims of identity theft about 13 years ago that started with stolen mail (blank checks, to be precise) and the US Post Office was very good about investigating the theft. They called us four years after I filed the report to let me know that they had caught the majority of the thieves and were prosecuting them. They told me it was a very large & sophisticated ring (for the time, of course) and that's why it took so long for their investigation to be completed.

I'm surprised she's had so much trouble getting the various entitites to doe anything. They were very helpful in our situation.

I'm very sorry about your friend's predicament - I know first hand what a bitch it is to deal with the credit reporting companies. Good luck to her.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:18 PM
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11. The post office was great. The businesses were horrible...
If fact they are STILL not closing down accounts and they were told about this THREE weeks ago. I think Jane should sue them. Especially the bank!
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:56 PM
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4. what is the victim's relationship to the thief?
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 12:57 PM by pitohui
you are not obligated for the debts of others, so there is no legal way to make the victim pay these bills nor would the victim need to declare bankruptcy -- this part of the story makes no sense whatsoever

there is more to the story, in the cases i've known about like this, the victim and the thief were close relatives, and the creditors figured that the "victim" claimed her identity was stolen by the "thief" in order to get out of paying the bill

not say that this is what your friend has done but it is extremely odd that the victim would need to declare bankruptcy when she is not responsible for some stranger stealing her identity and running up these bills

maybe she should get a lawyer who knows what he's doing, isntead of a lawyer that happens to be her dad but appears to be unknowing of even basic consumer rights

in all cases i know of personally where the victim was truly a victim and still had to pay the bills run up by the thief, it was because the thief was a blood relative (daughter, son, or daughter-in-law) of the victim and it is difficult in these cases to prove the thief really stole the money as opposed to getting permission from mom or dad

i'm not completely unsympathetic, in fact, i'm very sympathetic, as it has happened to us also, however, in all cases, where my husband or my identity was stolen by strangers, it was quickly and efficiently handled with no real cost to us other than a few bucks spent on a notarized affidavit telling the credit company our side of the story

same with another friend whose identity was stolen for a hotel clerk's wild weekend in vegas, his card was replaced by a new one in 24 hours, now, it is true the thief's account remained open, but it was changed to her real name and she had the option of either paying the bill herself or else face prosecution, i don't know which she chose as we never heard any more about it, and my friend had the bills removed from his account in a few hours and he has never been re-billed again and it's over a year now...

everybody gets their identity stolen at some point and the country would be in chaos if it were really all THAT hard to fix 99 percent of the time

it is good your friend is working with the sheriff but she also needs to report these businesses to her state attorney general's offices if they are billing her for money that she doesn't owe
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:58 PM
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6. see post 5
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:00 PM
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8. got it, just did, thanks! EOM
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:14 PM
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10. Betty has two ads on the web right now. Do you want to see them?
I guess she thinks she's going to make a living doing this. I've been calling her the "Queen of Nigeria"..

Description

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:28 PM
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12. Another thing Betty did to Jane. She had her key to her post office box.
And when Jane was in the hospital she signed her up for Disability and Medicaid. Jane had no idea! Jane just got a check from them. Betty was just going to cash the checks and not even tell Jane she was on welfare. Betty also talked Children Services into paying Janes rent. Betty cashed that check too. If we hadn't helped Jane when we did not only would she have been in debt to her eyeballs, she would have went to jail for welfare fraud too. Can you imagine? It's a true nightmare. It actually would make a good movie. "The Queen of Nigeria". I wish I knew how to write a script. lol
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