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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:09 PM
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Any pill identification experts out there?
My neighbor brought these by, and needs help identifying them. Apparently they were found in the clothes washer - and the only clothes in there belonged to her son. She's worried what it is.

Keep in mind it has been washed, so the colors may have been altered a bit - it has a distinct non-commercial look about it - in fact the tag on the end makes it look as if it were poured into a mold.

It looks gray on one end, becomes yellowish in the middle, and fades to white on the other end.

Here are the pics:




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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:14 PM
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1. If she's worried, she should take it/them to the police for testing.
I've never seen a 'script nor supplement that didn't look quite that home made.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:15 PM
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2. I'm caught up in your negatives
LOL - are you saying it looks homemade, or that sometimes pills look this homemade...
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:18 PM
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3. I'm saying
that from the pics, the overlap of the capsule (big over small) looks homemade. It's a waste of gelatin. I'm also saying that I've not seen anything that wasn't homemade that looks like this. I may well be wrong.

Your point in my "negatives" whatever the fuck that means?
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:24 PM
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6. didn't mean to offend you...
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 07:26 PM by ChoralScholar
I'm not thinking clearly tonight - I just saw 'never', 'nor', and 'didn't' in the same sentence,and was wondering if I understood you completely....

that's what I meant by negatives...

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:32 PM
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8. Got it.
No offense taken. It was the LOL before it that kinda looked...odd.

I sincerely hope that it's nothing but some herbal concoction with no problematic/illegal baggage.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:18 PM
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4. I'm taking it to our school police officer tomorrow....
I'm just curious tonight... wondering if anyone had seen it before....
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:16 PM
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13. it's her kid, she should not turn him into the police, this ain't north korea just yet
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 09:17 PM by pitohui
honestly i would sit down with the kid and if he lies and/or denies, then i think i would take advice from a support group for family members of drug/alcohol abusers to figure out what to do next

does it really matter exactly what the pill is? what matters is the kid is taking pills and she needs to confront the situation now

but dragging the police in, never a good idea if you can avoid it IMHO

i'd get the pills out of the house, destroy/discard them, she's the mom, she doesn't need to hold onto the pills as evidence in a court case, she needs to communicate with her son and get help for him if need be


dragging in the school is an even worse idea, could result in the kid being expelled and put in an alternative school and pretty much screwing over his life over what could have been a one time experiment or stupid mistake
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:19 PM
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5. No, but there are incredibly helpful
websites that you can go to for pill ID. Is there anything written on the table, or any letters or symbols?
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:25 PM
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7. not a thing. That would be a good place t o start.
I have consulted several websites. I'm suspecting it to be street drugs.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:29 PM
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9. I'm sorry, that is not good news
I imagine you are guessing that these are manufactured by private illegal labs. Sorry. Hopefully someone here can help identify them.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:41 PM
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10. If you or your friend don't want to take it to the police for ID,




there are private labs which will test it and report to you what it is, for a fee. The fees vary considerably. Also, there are online merchants selling at-home drug ID tests which can give you a general idea of what it is (i.e., whether or not it is illegal, and whether it is from the stimulant, sedative, hallucinogenic, etc. families.) If you want to go this route, I'd suggest googling "drug identification lab" or something along those lines.

Good luck.


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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:21 PM
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14. good grief, people, just get rid of it
the woman doesn't need to be holding an illegal drug for her neighbor, nor does the neighbor need to be holding onto her son's illegal drug for testing, they are not a police evidence room

they don't need to test the drug and know its chemical make-up to know there's a problem

if it's a harmless herbal thing from the health food store, fine, ask the son, he can laugh it off, and show them a bottle of like pills

no need for expensive "tests"

if it's something more, which i think it is, again, talking to the son is better than going behind his back, give a kid one chance okay?
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:31 PM
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15. The school resource officer is a good friend of mine
and I can take it to him without casting suspicion upon myself. In addition, he would be more up-to-date with the drugs that are floating around our community.

P.S. He is an actual police officer, not a security guard. Our school and community did a great thing by putting an actual officer in every school, and splitting the pay between the district and the city.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:14 AM
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17. ok that's different and i am much relieved
i am holding out hope this can be handled quietly, most kids who try drugs are not going to turn into druggies unless every door is closed to them

hell i tried drugs enough and yet i probably haven't bothered with a drug that wasn't RX in 20 years

:-)
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:39 AM
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19. Why did you bother to ask here?
Sounds like you know what needs to be done. Our input is irrelevant.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:42 AM
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20. yeah but when it's this important sometimes you have to vent
i completely understand that, there are times when something comes out of nowhere and it could be life changing for this kid or this family, so you can't just sit on your hands

better to discuss on an anon bulletin board that get in a fight IRL

i think she'll handle it fine, she just needed to share

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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:45 AM
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22. Then they should present it as a vent..
Not a plea for identifying a random pill.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:04 AM
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23. I was just hoping someone knew what it was....
curiosity and impatience, you know.... :)
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:46 PM
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11. From my drug using years the only homemade pills I ever saw were Ecstasy.
The coloring is weird but that could be "branding." We used to get Ecstasy that was made in a "real" lab with a dolphin stamped on it.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:52 PM
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12. I agree..it looks like a "cocktail" type drug
maybe E mixed with something?

Back in the day, the only homeade pills were referred to as "ludes" and were downers/barbituate in nature. Sloppy type of buzz...not something I want to ever revisit...(I start to gag to this day when even opening medication that I know is in capsule form or shape...30 years later)
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 11:52 PM
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16. Try this site--it;s all about pic ID of street drugs
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 11:55 PM by Whoa_Nelly
http://www.stopdrugs.org/idpills.html

and here:
http://www.sccja.org/csid%20pharm2.htm

Even though the colors are different, am thinking it's some sort of barbiturate

Also, a hotline to call where you can describe it, and maybe get an answer:
http://www.communityhelpcentre.com/Section%203/Section3page53.html

Or call Poison Control and ask
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:34 AM
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18. Has she considered actually communicating with her son like he's a human being?
I can't believe people are suggesting going to the cops over a pill.

Where the hell am I?

:wtf:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:43 AM
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21. She should just ask him...
there could be a reasonable explanation and if she's overly concerned she could have the pill tested or take him down to be drug tested. I've seen plenty of parents do that, but it does too much damage to a relationship, IMO.

Asking him upfront is the way to go, IMO. Well, that's what I'd do with my kid.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:03 PM
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24. Well, according to someone over at idthispill.com
this is what a Concerta (ADHD med) looks like with its outer coating removed or washed away. It has an outer coating of brown, yellow or white.

After looking it up, the shape is consistent. Can anyone else confirm that this is what a Concerta looks like underneath the coating?
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