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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:57 PM
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The Final Cut of Blade Runner
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 07:58 PM by Mike03
Ridley Scott has authorized a "final cut" of Blade Runner, which I have asked for for my birthday. Of course, it looks fantastic, but after reading a description of it, I don't understand how it differs from the "Director's Cut" released a few years ago in the box set?

Does anybody know what the difference is? In the last recut, he cut the voice over, the happy ending, and included the unicorn dream. What else is there?

Thanks in advance.

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:02 PM
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1. it's a marketing gimmick to squeeze whatever revenue they can squeeze
from a timeless classic.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:04 PM
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2. I absolutely HATED that "Director's Cut." Loved the original, though.
Redstone
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:27 PM
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4. Redstone, did you like the voice over?
To be perfectly honest, I have liked all the versions I have seen, even way back when I was a teenager and the film came out.

I was even okay with the "happy ending", although when I saw the director's cut without it, it seemed like a better film.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:28 AM
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15. I like the original, with the narration. I don't think it could be improved.
Redstone
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yoyossarian Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:21 PM
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3. Ridley might know...
I have always heard there was a very dark ending that
was rejected and reshot; I hope we get a chance to see
what was originally intended...
One of my absolute fave films...


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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:28 PM
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5. That's interesting!
The end of the "director's cut" seemed bleak to me, but maybe there is something darker. That would definitely be an addition to the last cut.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:09 AM
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11. It may be, but only as an alternate ending choice.
Not in the Final Cut. Unless enough people like the darker ending in Public previews and on the Director's Cut.But thats rare.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:10 PM
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6. I still need to get ahold of the original.
All I've seen is the director's cut.
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 12:27 AM
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7. Oh! I might know. (but it might be a spoiler)
I just caught something on this not too long ago. I can't promise you that it's not the "director's cut version" you're talking about, even though I think we have that. Anyway, they were talking about how in the original, Ford (and EVERYone, ultimately) is an android and how that is part of the ending.

So if the Director's Cut includes that, then I don't know. But if it doesn't? Then that's what it is. A completely alternate ending, nothing like what the original film version hands out.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:40 AM
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12. I don't know if that's part of the ending...
...but Ridley Scott has made it clear on numerous occasions that Deckard is supposed to be a replicant. That's the point of the dream and the origami unicorn at the end...that Gaff leaves Deckard the origami as a way of telling him that he, Gaff, knows Deckard's (implanted) dream.

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Bryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 01:22 AM
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8. It sounds like it's going to be great.
Here's an interview with producer Charles de Lauzirika about the new cut:

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=interviews&id=11285

In terms of footage that didn't make it into the original...

That's in the new Final Cut? There's a lot of nuance. It's a lot of moments that kind of flesh things out or are closer to what was originally intended. For instance, the new unicorn dream sequence is the original cut of that sequence. It's not just Deckard at a piano, arbitrary dissolve to the unicorn, arbitrary dissolve back. It's him at the piano, to a close-up of him thinking and staring off into space, we go to the forest, the unicorn eventually runs in, he reacts to it. It's more in his head. It's not what they could do in '92, easy and cheap because that's all they had. We found the original footage, we found the original cut, conformed it with the negative, so it's more of a vision in his head. The sound design is totally different. It's the moment that Ridley wanted, not the moment he had to concede to back in '92. Things like that.

There are several new VFX tweaks and changes, enhancements that fix a lot of errors. Most notably, there's the scene where Batty dies and lets go of the dove, we go from dark, rainy, grungy we cut to blue sky, aluminum corrugated sci-fi tubes. So it's now a really gritty, grungy matte painting that's beautiful...it's like a hybrid of what would be done in '82 that was actually shot in 2019. It's really clean and elegant, we've got the same dove to lock onto through the cut.



More than that, though, there's also going to be a special briefcase collection's edition containing every single substate of the film: the US theatrical version, the home video/international version, the 1992 "Director's Cut", the legendary workprint version, and-as the interview above mentions-a whopping forty-seven minutes of deleted scenes cut together with an alternate version of the narration, so it's almost like a sixth version of the film. And lots of nerdy souvenir crap. I'm toying with the idea of buying it and taking a week off work to have my way with it...

http://tinyurl.com/3bu8s9

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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:27 AM
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9. if you do so, invite me over, I'll bring snacks!
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:58 AM
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10. The Final Cut should be what was seen in theaters plus...
what was used in the Director's Cut that was commented on positively.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:43 AM
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13. Joanna Cassidy came back to reshoot her chase scene
I guess it was pretty obvious in the original that it was a double running away from Deckard just before he "retires" her. Scott shot new footage with Joanna Cassidy (who still looks great, by the way), and that footage is now in the film.

Also, I heard that the dove at the end flies off into the night sky, not a blue daytime sky.

Those are two tweaks I heard about.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:38 AM
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14. One of the greatest SF movies ever. Vangelis' soundtrack knocks me out.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:41 AM
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16. I agree with both those assessments.
I remember hearing Vangelis back in the mid-70's and being knocked over by his music.

"Blade Runner" is THE classic Sci-Fi movie.
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