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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:13 AM
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Janet admits complicity in "breastgate"..
KIRO 11 pm news just reported Janet Jackson admitted the incident was a planned publicity stunt (as if we didn't already figure that)... but says only one layer of the bra was suppsed to come off, leaving a red lacy bra...
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:15 AM
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1. yeah, right...


Than why was she wearing the nipplering? Is that normal fare?
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:18 AM
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2. Most people wear there nipple ring
even when no one is going to see it. If they took it out, the hole would close.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:27 AM
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3. Yeah but with the big star attached?

I have an easier time beliving it was a publicity stunt because ripping it off to see a red lacy bra would be pretty dumb.
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:37 AM
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6. Yeah with a nipple shield.
Why wear the red lace bra if you are going to rip it up? She said she didn't plan it. I'm not in her head so I'll take her word for it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:29 AM
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4. Excuse me?
One layer of the bra? A red lacy bra? And how would anyone see that? What would the point have been?

Costume malfunction, my ass.

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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:34 AM
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5. Well,
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 02:35 AM by opiate69
I didn't say I believed her story... the way I see it, their little flash did 3 things..
1. Got people to talk about J. Jackson instead of M. Jackson (right before the release of her new, not-so-very anticipated CD)
2. Blew the media buzz around the Madonna/Britney kiss out of the water and
3. Finally provided America with a half-time show to talk about.

Yep.. this whole thing was calculated, I'd bet my next month's salary on it.
(edited because I kant tipe gud after taking NyQuill..)
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GemMom Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:45 AM
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7. The only redeeming thing in the entire half time show
was the University of Houston marching band.
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:50 AM
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8. that was a hubcap from a 1959 Mercury station wagon...
...which Justin stole for her as a token of his undying love.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:52 AM
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9. So what if it was?
That people are so upset about seeing a breast that it warrants national news coverage is disgusting.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:01 AM
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10. I'm with ya...
I'm just flabbergasted that the idiots in question would initially deny it was staged, apologize profusely, then eventually decide to attempt to come clean. It took less than 24 hours for our government to announce an official inquiry into a semi-naked breast being exposed during a show that is generally aimed at adults, yet can't get their shit together to investigate war based on cooked intelligence, outing of a covert CIA agent, or any of the other shady crap this administration has pulled....what a country.
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:02 AM
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11. They never denied it was staged
The denied that her breast was supposed to show. So far they are sticking to that.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:07 AM
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12. Didn't they?
I could have sworn the original party line was that it was a spur of the moment improv by Timberlake...(and, I cannot believe I've actually been sucked into discussing this... my disdain for all of the talentless hacks responsible for our pop-culture usually keeps me from getting involved in these kinds of discussions..)
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:12 AM
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14. The original party line was
that her bare breast showing was not intentional or rehearsed.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:04 AM
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23. That sounds far, FAR more logical. Janet isn't the type to take it too far
on purpose. She's rather conservative, and not into the publicity hype game at all. She NEVER dresses sleazy, although leans towards the erotic.

I believe that the bra was to be exposed, hence the reason it was RED.... and that the leather bustier was supposed to come off.

And it was probably a La Perle Bra which isn't the sturdiest of garments... very delicate and lacy.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:39 AM
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29. Janet is "conservative"?
Remember her picture on the Rolling Stone cover? ROWR.


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 08:34 AM
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21. I'm more PO'ed about the act that brought it forth--I call grabbing
a woman's breast a bit violent; I don't know about you.
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:35 AM
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28. I believe he grabbed her top,
...not her breast.

And in any case it was choreographed, so it wasn't like he was assaulting her.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:10 AM
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13. I beleive this story. That it was an accident!
Janet looks totally shocked in the pictures and you can see half of the red bra here.



As far as the nipple ring goes, lots of women have them and wear them. Nothing unusual there- really.

Anyway, my theory, as a woman is that she was wearing one of the front clasp bras that can pull apart. Even those ridiculous embroidered flowers used to pull both cups of a bra together have been know to break, pop.

I in no way believe that with everything the Jackson family is going through now, the charges of lewdness against her beloved brother who risks being put away, that Janet, adoring little concerned sister, would even think of adding more to the notoriety.

It does not stand to reason.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 08:16 AM
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20. Do you normally defend a man grabbing a woman's breast? The stunt was just
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 08:18 AM by blondeatlast
nasty, even if she didn't get exposed.

Edit: Tinoire, I know better, of course you wouldn't. But I couldn't care less about the breast, but the act itself was disgusting.
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Haviland_42 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:25 AM
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15. Look closely at this pic...




Don't you see the snaps? It was staged, meant to happen, intentional, not a "wardrobe malfunction" at all.

Come on, no one here fell off the peanut truck yesterday, did they?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:31 AM
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16. That, yes, is a nipple shield. It proves nothing
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 03:43 AM by Tinoire
Hang around depraved liberal women long enough and you'll find out that we wear them under our bras and that the snaps to our bras, so lovingly sewn on by the weary fingers of 8 year old Haitian girls, sometimes pop open.

The things one could learn hanging out with libidinous women ;)



They don't wear those on the peanut truck do they?

If you can think of anyone you'd like to enjoy that with- plenty more here: http://bodypunks.com/category.asp?category=NIPPLE%20RINGS&page=1

If you're uncomfortable shopping there, tell them Rush sent you. That should break the ice :)

I told them Barbara Bush sent me and it worked :shrug:
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 07:44 AM
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17. oh tinoire...
please please look at the video closely...this was no accident and was clearly staged. MTV planned it all the way (well, I cannot verify that, but the actions of J&J certainly indicate that it was planned and no malfunction of wardrobe.

And by the by, a couple of years ago I met a lovely young lady on the peanut truck who had some VERY interesting body accessories. :-)

theProdigal

PS : well, it was a truck carrying hay bales, but you get the point
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:59 AM
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31. I didn't see the video but I have had the opportunity
thanks do DU & FR to peer at the pictures lol. Someone made me peer even closer and see that is one of those grip cups...

The female breast being a rather giving object and all, can't you allow for the possibility that he grabbed the cup by mistake also? I thought Janet looked stunned. I really, really don't think she would have done that deliberately at a time when every single Jackson, to include LaToya, has been parading around the talk-show circuit practically with rosary beads in their hands. That part especially, the timing, makes no sense. Especially in front of that audience- I just don't see Janet doing it- she has more judgement than that & knows what the consequences could be.

I know you don't care about the nipple shield and all but I hate the thought of her being crucified for what I think can be believed to have been an accident.

Just giving my girl the benefit of the doubt but very, very easily. Don't want to see her crucified.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 08:13 AM
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18. I'm no prude, but a man grabbing at a women's breast
in front of millions of people for its "entertainment value" just seems quite sick to me. If it was a pay-per-view, maybe they could make a case, but they have no defense.

The stunt was in poor taste anyway, whether she was exposed or not.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:26 AM
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26. Agree, Blonde, and I'm surprised that "liberal DU" females aren't really
upset about this and more focused on how great it is that Janet wears a nipple enhancer rather than the issue of a white guy ripping open a black woman (racial sterotypes) or ANY womans clothing to expose her.

That Jackson is so desperate for media attention that she allowed something like this is questionable and what kind of message does this send to young gals and guys everywhere? It's okay to rip a woman's breast and expose her becausee she was "asking for it" because she wears a "nipple enhancer?"

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:28 AM
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27. Um context
Some people like ruff trade. The context seemed to be that she was enjoying herself. Being a liberal means not condemning anothers sexual practices as long as no one is being hurt against their will.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 08:13 AM
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19. I'm so sick...
... of this kind of crap. Hear me out.

I'm certainly not a 'prude' and don't buy into the nonsense than children are going to be traumatized or somehow compromised by seeing a breast. Breasts are just OK with me.

But, this is just another in a series of cheesy calculated ploys to sell a product (a singer's records, an 'actresses' reputation).

Like the Paris Hilton tape, this is an unfortunately successful bid to draw undeserved attention to a mediocre-at-best 'talent'.

There are so many really talented singer-songwriters out there, every record Janet sells is a travesty. Same for Paris Hilton, the buttless wonder who showed what a spoiled brat she is to the whole country - and would have been ignored had her ex boyfriend not leaked that pointless tape.

Said simply - this is nothing more than cheesy, manipulative, advertising disguised as an 'accident' or happenstance, and not only am I not buying it, I'm sick of it. :)

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 08:46 AM
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22. I wasn't scandalized
It's just that I believe in decorum. When I turn into the MTV Music Awards, I expect celebrities wearing next to nothing and doing provacative things. When I watch the Super Bowl, I don't anticipate seeing naked boobies. I'm sure most of America felt a little taken aback too.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:19 AM
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24. Ok, having some experience at removing bras from women
I can rather safely say with authority that tearing one away like that does not result in a perfectly removed cup. You are going to pull her shoulder out of joint before that cup comes off. The other cup is not going to sit around idly either. The force necissary to remove the cup is going to wrench the entire structure off her chest and not likely to rip away.

The only conceivable means by which that cup came off is if it was rigged. Timerberlake may have been a patsy. But Ms Jackson was definately in on the nasty. Maybe brother Michael needed some relief from the media storm.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:07 AM
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32. Az- Have you heard of the Nu Bra?
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 11:08 AM by Tinoire
http://store2.yimg.com/I/gostore_1777_54589677

Each one is its individual, self-attached cup.



The NuBra silicone bra has a self adhesive system with natural silicone cups that are totally seamless and invisible under sheer clothing. The Nu Bra is not a filler or enhancer. It is to be used for true cup sizes for strapless dresses and low backed tops. The bra was designed to ride high, giving you a lift. Closure snaps help to define the cleavage. You won’t believe how real these feel! The bra is light and comfy and the silicone bra cups give you the most natural feel and look!


Peace
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:54 AM
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34. Not exactly stage standard
Particularly when you plan on having the bodice of the outer garment ripped away. I would suspect you would want to make sure you had a well placed undergarment that was not going to tear away. I can't imagine how one would make this kind of mistake. It had to be planned.
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BarbaRosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:20 AM
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25. Not to condone
such breast grabbing, I don't, but I must say that I find equal offensive the obligatory nut kicking found in virtually every movie out there. As an owner of a pair of the afore mentioned I get very upset that this is allowed for a laugh, a quick/casual power play or whatever. Sorry for the rant but I feel very strongly about this.
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 09:40 AM
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30. ITA re: nut grabbing/kicking/battery
Why is okay to see a man get hit in the midsection on America's Funniest Home Videos? If this happened to a sensitive part of a woman's body, I don't think anyone would be laughing--at least I certainly wouldn't.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:40 AM
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33. It's O.K. because men don't have a small army of.......
rabid feminists pouring over every event for some symbolic misogynistic offense.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 11:57 AM
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35. That nipple thing is pretty cool
I'd get one but I refuse to pierce my nipple :p
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:00 PM
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36. Ya big weenie
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 12:00 PM by VelmaD
I have one pierced and it didn't hurt as much as getting my belly button did. Plus it's good pain and it only lasts a little bit.

Do it. If you don't like it you can always let the hole close back up.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:02 PM
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37. There's no such thing as "good" pain!
OUCH.
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