Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Contest is Over! The Mother of the Year Award goes to:

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:32 AM
Original message
The Contest is Over! The Mother of the Year Award goes to:
Christina Aguilera: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071129/ap_en_ce/people_christina_aguilera_3

It's just that when I stop the snarkiness and just think about this for a moment, it really gets depressing.... ;(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:48 AM
Response to Original message
1. I actually don't mind Christina.
I hope she and her husband are very happy with their new family.

:hug: for you, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. She was very good on Saturday Night Live
she did an impersonation of Samantha from Sex in the City that was spot on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. She has talent, no doubt.
The power of her vocals are unbelievable when she lets loose.

Never did watch Sex in the City.

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. Oh, I wish EVERYONE the best
but when I see mom pose pregnant and nekid on a rag cover, I worry about things like discernment.

Right back at ya! :hug: :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Discernment?
What do you mean by that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. I mean that if one were "normal", one wouldn't
be posing nekid on rag covers. It's not even as if she is doing it for the $$$. So why? And it's not as if it hasn't been done before:



If she's going to be a mother, she should start acting like one instead of exploiting her status as one. I don't consider children accessories.

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #11
25. So in *your* opinion, mothers don't show their bodies.
I'm glad not everyone shares that opinion. Pregnant women should not be shamed into dressing whichever way people with more more puritanical mindsets think they should. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #25
51. Redqueen, I'm not saying that
What I'm saying is that mothers don't normally show off their nekid, pregnant bodies, not because they shouldn't or are ashamed, but because there is no compelling reason to do so, leering men notwithstanding.

Good mothers are into their kids bodies, if you will, than into their own.

:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #51
52. good mothers are still women and women need to like their own bodies
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 01:09 PM by lionesspriyanka
and have their own lives.

these BS excuses were the reason women were deprived jobs after they had babies.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #52
183. Depends upon what you mean by "have their own lives"
True, to some extent, but for all intents and purposes, their "old" lives are gone once children arrive. That's just the reality of the situation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #51
53. "leering men" there is no way this isn't about you. it's not about "the children" at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:59 PM
Original message
That's what I'm saying!!! I agree 110%
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:00 PM
Response to Original message
86. i think chimpr means you. specifically you. not one.
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 02:00 PM by lionesspriyanka
ie. this is your issue, not christina's, and has nothing to do with protecting kids
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #86
117. thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #117
124. welcome. i love to clear up ambiguity.
:hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #53
201. Okay, I'll try again.
If you mean to lump me in with the "leering men", forget it! I'm the one protesting the spread in the first place!!!

All I am saying is that a narcissist like Christina Aguilera is going to have a RUDE awakening when she becomes a mother. Just like her pal BS. Ten to one she hires at least 3 nannies. Problem solved. That's "motherhood" on Planet Hollyweird.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #51
67. Why should they need a compelling reason?
:shrug:

And I don't know about 'good' mothers being more into their kids bodies than their own. In fact I disagree. Women who put their kids before themselves in every single thing are not being a good role model for their kids. Just because you are raising people, that does not mean you cease to count as a person.

:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #67
87. It doesn't necessarily always have to be either/or but
most of the time when push comes to shove, the kids come first. No?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #87
88. and what push has come to shove, in this instance exactly?
i means besides you wanting her to live by your sense of morality?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #87
100. Sure. But this has nothing to do with the still yet-to-be-born kid.
This is a a picture of a woman. I don't know why you're trying to make such a big deal over it.

Why are you making such a big deal over it, anyway?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #100
181. This women is going to be a mother
I'm not making a big deal of it; all I implied was that she might not turn out to be such a good mother because she thinks it's a good idea to pose nekid while pregnant on a rag cover. That's all. I question her judgment, that's all. I hope I'm wrong. For her kid's sake, for pete's sake.

Maybe she'll name him "Pete"... :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #11
65. these women were on magazine cover BEFORE they got pregnant too
they are not exploiting their pregnancy to get there
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #65
179. And I have no problem with that. This has everything to do with motherhood.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #179
187. so what you are saying is pregnant women shouldnt be naked on magazine covers
non pregnant women however should be?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #187
188. Let's not exaggerate
She's clearly wearing a jacket on the cover.


Way to run just half of the race, Christina!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #187
191. What I'm saying is
She is a rich women. She is not hurting for $$$. She is pregnant. She is posing nekid for a rag cover. Why? She is not merely a "star" now (who can pose nekid every month for all I care) but she is a mother. She needs to start thinking and acting like a mother, not a pregnant star.

That's what I'm sayin' :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #191
194. to rephrase: pregnant women should not show off their bodies in a way a non pregnant woman should?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #194
195. As a matter of discernment, no. She shouldn't.
It has nothing to do with issues of her body, but with her judgment as a mother.

But forget about her anyway-- that little tramp BS is pregnant again!!!11111
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #195
196. because clearly anyone naked on a magazine cover is a bad mother?
are sex workers all bad mothers?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
41. Well, it's no secret that Christina has always been
Dirrrrrrrrrty. :rofl:

I give her credit for being who she is and not as manufactured as let's say, oh, Briney or Jessica Simpson.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #41
89. ROFL
She's just being marketed as "the dirty one" They are ALL marketed tools.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #89
184. And marketing is how they earn their living.
I don't begrudge her for it. At least she is honest about who she is instead of pretending to be some puritanical virgin and then writhing around on stage.

There is nothing wrong with what she did. I won't judge someone because they are comfortable in their own skin and are honest about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #41
95. Briney the Pirate? nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:53 AM
Response to Original message
3. she looks good, i like her.
she actually has talent unlike many of her peers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:59 AM
Response to Original message
6. Why is that depressing
Hell if I had looked that good while pregnant, I'd have been flaunting it too.

I remember the bru ha ha when Demi Moore posed similarly for a cover. Never understood why.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. preganant woman are suppsed to be ashamed of their body and make every effort to hide it
after all babies are flown in by storks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #10
139. I wish!
It hurts, that giving birth thing! Plus, it is pretty exhausting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. I'm thinking about the character trait of a mother who would do such a thing
and I can't find anything positive about it. Celebrity parents in general worry me. :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Celebrating a woman's body?
It's a beautiful thing. Why does it need to be covered up?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. That's not the issue
I love the female form; it IS a beautiful thing. Really. I am framing my comments in light of the fact that she is future MOTHER and needs to start thinking like a MOTHER, not a media tool.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. What conclusion do you think she should reach...
...if she starts "thinking like a mother?" That bellies are dirty?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
90. Back up to the question "As a future mother, why should I pose pregnant and nekid?"
I want to hear the answer to that question.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #90
92. There are several possible answers:
"I think I can carry it off, with enough air-brushing."
"It'll be good for my career."
"It's empowering to show that pregnant is beautiful."

Your turn.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #92
101. Okay:
"I think I can carry it off, with enough air-brushing."

Just because you can, doesn't mean you SHOULD... That point aside, we are left begging the question: who couldn't, with enough air-brushing?

"It'll be good for my career."

My career in "motherhood"? Not thinking like a mother. She's thinking like a hip-to-be-pregnant celebrity. Guess what: the kid eventually comes out!

"It's empowering to show that pregnant is beautiful."

...with enough airbrushing. Don't buy it, even if she were the first to do it, not the umpteenth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #101
193. Please answer #20? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #193
198. :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #20
197. I believe that there is a certain narcissistic element to posing nekid on the cover
of a ragazine. And that's okay with me-- it's not MY cup of tea, but if a girl freely wants to, fine. Because such an individual only need answer to themselves, then I see no problem, except maybe with dad or mom, if they are in the picture. But say that they aren't.

Okay, enter a boyfriend, or a husband. Now she must start taking OTHERS into consideration when she acts. The ultimate consideration she needs to make is of the welfare of her child. Narcissists, by definition, don't do others well. So when I see narcissistic behavior in a future mother, I worry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #197
199. "Fine"?
Not your cup of tea? Okay.

But why unveil this theory for a seminude picture? What makes the subject more narcissistic than that of any of a hundred thousand other cover pictures?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #199
200. Pregnancy. Narcissism + Motherhood = Britney Spears
:scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #200
203. It's not the nudity, then, but the pregnancy?
Posing fully clad with a baby bump would be just as troubling to you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. so being on the cover of a magazine makes her less of a mother?
are you kidding me?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. She's not a mother yet
I am questioning her judgment, that's all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. about being on the cover of a magazine? Why is that a big deal?
she looks wonderful and she's obviously happy about the upcoming birth of her child, when i was pregnant i would have done the same thing if someone offered it to me because i was thrilled. I got news for you, pregnant women in most cases do nothing but think about their babies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #22
115. I think being a celebrity makes her predisposed to being less of one.


That is not to say that she won't be a good mother. But the demands of being a celebrity, if she chooses to remain in the spotlight can definitely take a toll on motherhood. I wish her child all the best.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #115
202. Thank you!
:pals:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
26. Yeah, because there is no such thing as MOTHERs who are secure with their bodies.
:eyes:

It's a naked pregnant belly, not Tubgirl.

First, I suggest you visit:
www.theshapeofamother.com (not safe for work, as there is nudity, but not at all in a pornographic or obscene way)

Look! It's non-celebrity moms who are not ashamed of their bodies -- or, perhaps, who are ashamed of their bodies but want to know they're not alone. Gasp!

And second:
Get over yourself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #18
32. Being a mother doesn't cancel out the fact that she is a woman
You have some really ingrained issues with how you think "mothers" should "behave".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #32
40. Like your children should come first?
So? :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. Did you read the article?
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 12:54 PM by BarenakedLady
"There are so many things that could go wrong — somebody could slip, somebody could fall, I could fall," says Aguilera, who wore a heart monitor during performances. "There was no way ... I was going to jeopardize my baby for my show."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. but she posted NAKED!!! OMG!!!! Naked pregnant woman! OH NO
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #45
48. LoL.
That .gif cracks me up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #42
54. Of course not
I was just responding to the cover pic.

That quotation is rather amusing. If she really were THAT concerned about so many things that could go wrong, she wouldn't DO those things!

But on second thought: yeah, wearing a heart monitor would take care of all that! :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. again, you are using the exact 'rationale' that society used for years to deprive women jobs
after/during their pregnancy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #40
43. and posing for a magazine inconveniences your fetus how?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. character trait because she is comfortable in her skin? and wants to be admired
like most people do.

i think you are being ridiculously judgmental.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. Gonna have to agree with that one...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. exactly.
what in the ever loving hell? You would think she was on that cover smoking crack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #14
36. All I'm saying is that
she is going to be a mother. I don't know if you have had children, but I have, and I will tell you that life as you know it ENDS. Your life is now sacrifice, secondary. You now have a awesome responsibility to raise a human being to maturity, to provide for him/her their every need. It is not an endeavor to be taken on lightly. Posing nekid while pregnant on the cover of a rag strikes me as taking the responsibility lightly.

YMMV :hi:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. sexy people are incapable of sacrifice? i think you are projecting your issues
on someone else.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. I KNOW that young people have NO IDEA what they are getting into when they
become parents. It is IMPOSSIBLE to know what it is like until you are in that role. So I won't try to explain it.

She is used to the focus and attention all being on HER. And to be fair, we all are to some extent. But I think more so in her case, as with a lot of celebrities. And so I wonder, as I stated in my OP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #44
46. if no one has any idea, then why are you predicting her downfall already?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #46
66. You misunderstand:
I mean no one who is about to become a parent has any idea of the responsibility involved. It's hard enough for a perfectly adjusted person to become a good parent. She isn't my idea of even a well adjusted person.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. because she poses naked? or because she poses naked pregnant?
or because she didnt decided to take up the barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen lifestyle?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #68
70. This is all about motherhood
I don't believe you can have EVERYTHING. First of all, where would you put it? :-)

You have to make choices. That's really all I'm saying. :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. i would love to know how you make the leap from her posing on a cover to her not
taking her responsibilities as a parent seriously. Where exactly did you connect those dots?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #39
50. All those lights will lead to a bad breastfeeding relationship, dontchya know?
And Photoshopping out the stretch marks will lead to low birth weight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
7. I don't see much wrong with what she said..
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 12:01 PM by SoCalDem
she was a bit "too much information-ish", but it's her first baby, and she's obviously excited about it.. the clothing choices (It's a woman's magazine) are odd, but pregnant women don't dress like they used to..

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:14 PM
Response to Original message
9. why? she has a gorgeous body. its hers to pose with.
is it in anyway harming her child?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Not at all, as far as I know.
It's just a bit narcissistic, and the last character trait a future parent needs is being self-absorbed and selfishness.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. in that case everything we do for vanity or admiration is narcissistic
and apparanly all our kids should be fucked up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. We make choices
Those choices to a large extent affect how our children turn out. Some choices are have less impact than others. That you choose to use make-up will have less of an impact on your kids than if you decided to continue your career and have an entourage raise your kids (were you Christina Aguilera).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #21
33. yeah her choice to be happy in her body, will hopefully make her a secure mother
who doesnt foist her insecurities on her kids.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #21
34. Her children will probably be proud that she was PROUD to be pregnant
and celebrated the miracle within her
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #34
47. Or they will turn out like so many celebrity brats before them:
No sense of value, and screwed up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. you can predict all this because the mother poses semi naked?
as i said you are projecting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #49
57. Projecting what, Freud?
If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

I hope you have a license to practice that pop psychology. :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #57
59. no more than you are a licensed psychic
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #59
71. I knew you were going to say that
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #71
79. yoru projecting your own issues with your body. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. Not at all!
I have a great body. That being the case, it doesn't mean that if I don't choose to pose nekid I am in any way ashamed of it. I haven't posed nekid because I have no reason to do so. Offer me $1,000,000 and I'll consider it. But if I already have $1,000,000, then even that is no incentive. I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone about my stuff. If some else does, then fine, with a pregnant women, she has to come to the realization that her decisions from now on must include her child's welfare, and hopefully her child's welfare FIRST.

Pregnant people who pose nekid on rag covers don't appear to me to be in that mindset yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. so you can show off your body for a price, but if christina does it, it makes you doubt
her character.

:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #83
91. All I meant by that was that $$$ was no incentive to her because she is a brazillionaire
I understand someone doing it for the $$$.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #91
102. Actually you have no idea what her financial situation is
She may very well be motivated by the $$$. Or by something else. Either way, you don't know that it's not an incentive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #102
104. yeah, unless you behave in exactly the way temeah deams moral and right
you are going to be a terrible mother.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #104
108. I never said that.....
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #108
110. you didnt have to. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #110
121. Yes I do!
Or are you implying that when I have an opinion, I'll ask you for it? :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #102
106. Please. I have a VERY good idea.
If you don't think that she is a multi-millionaire, then you're deceiving yourself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #106
119. You don't know that she still HAS those millions
Since you don't know how much she *spends* each month. She could have zero dollars in her bank account for all you know. As I said, you have no idea what her financial situation is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #119
122. I have no idea how many actual millions she has
but I have a very good idea that the millions she has are multiple. And that is pure guesswork. I could do some research, and I wouldn't be surprised if her net worth was close to $100,000,000.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #122
128. You're still missing the point
If she SPENDS all that money on expenses, she could be living residual paycheck to paycheck for all you know. What she's earned is irrelevant if she's spending it. Britney Spears for example is doing exactly that.

You really do not know what her financial situation is. Or her motivation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #128
131. Well, I do and I don't
We can agree to disagree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #131
134. We can agree you don't know what's in her savings account
Or what her expenses are. Neither of which is relevant to net worth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #134
144. All I'm saying is that if you think she posed for the $$$, being the 19th richest female entertainer
then you are sorely mistaken. You can make up any crazy hypothetical you want.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #144
146. All I'm saying is that if you think being the 19th richest female entertainer
Means she *must* have millions in her bank account,

then you are sorely mistaken.


(BTW, I never said I thought she posed for the $$$)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #146
151. But that was the whole reason for bringing up the $$$ in the first place!
Regardless, I think you're wrong, and that she definitely has AT LEAST a few million in liquidity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #151
153. Key phrase: "I think"
As I originally said, you really don't know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #153
161. But neither do you, so what's your point?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #161
164. Key difference: you made a claim about her, and I didn't
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #164
165. On what basis do you refute my claim?
We are trading opinions, until either one of us knows differently based on facts. :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #165
166. Nope, not at all
You claimed "$$$ was no incentive to her". I said you don't know that. Since you don't know her savings or expenses, you don't in fact know what her incentive is.

No "trading" going on BTW, since I haven't offered an (unsupported) opinion on her financial situation as you have.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #166
175. Let's be reasonable, shall we?
Fact 1. Her net worth is $60,000,000. She is a "star". If anything, she'd do the cover FOR FREE to get the publicity. Money really isn't an issue or an incentive. Okay, we don't know that FOR A FACT. But you know what? We know it, anyway.

Any more talk about $$$, and I'll break into the Argument Sketch, be it the 11th or not!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #175
177. Fact 2. Net worth says nothing at all about her cash flow.
Since we're being reasonable, after all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #177
178. What about if it keeps going up? Or down? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #178
180. Makes no difference.
Net worth does not correlate to income or expenses. If the value of your house goes up, your paycheck doesn't change, or your heating bill.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #180
182. But if your paycheck goes up, your bottom line goes up:
You invest it, it grows. :silly:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #182
185. Paycheck is unrelated to net worth
Since you don't know if she invests, saves, or spends it. (my original point)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #185
189. But they are related in the sense that each can affect the other.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #189
190. "can"
But if you know only net worth, you know nothing at all about cash flow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #190
192. Of course!
It could all be inherited, for that matter. They are related in ways, though it may be a long distance relationship ;-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #119
127. Now I have a VERY GOOD reason (Forbes says $60,000,000)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #127
129. Still missing the point
Britney Spears has a net worth of $100 million, and yet she has nothing in savings and is spending more than she is earning.

Like I said, you don't know what Christina's spending each month on expenses.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #129
130. So your point is that there is a chance she needs the money she received from posing
Okay, whatever. :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #130
132. No, my point is that you don't know what her incentive was
You claim "that $$$ was no incentive to her". Me, I said nothing about "needs".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #132
138. ...
(that was the sound of my head exploding in space)

IOW, say what? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #47
206. You have made up your mind. She's morally wrong and her child will be a brat
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 09:25 AM by LibraLiz1973
I hope people do not judge you as harshly for things they dont like in your life.
Being that negative takes a lot of energy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:32 PM
Response to Original message
17. she is sinful. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #17
23. sinfully hot. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. she is hot...but should seek out Christ. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. Christ is into pregnant women?
That's hot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. he loves everyone. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #28
35. Does Christ have a problem with the pregnant female form?
Pathetic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. I don't know the mind of God. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #37
207. Then why did you post THESE pregnant pics?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:15 PM
Response to Original message
56. The pic missing from the Yahoo story... no jacket required
http://www2.marketwire.com/mw/mmframe?prid=333089&attachid=635640

I'm all for it... I've shot a few maternity nudes recently, most of which I can't post here... actually shooting again tonight with a woman who's at 8 months!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. that is a beautiful picture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #58
77. Come, on, chimpsrsmarter!
That pic has played with more times than an alter boy on Sunday.

(okay, God, forgive me for that; it just popped into my head!) :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. gorgeous.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. gawd
I wish I had looked like that while preggers.

Damn you, genetics!

x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. ***snarf****
i was looking through pictures last week and i found one of me at the hospital the night before i had my daughter---oy! but i will say i looked happy, the rest of me, well it looked like my 2 Bff's were Ben and Jerry which they were.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #62
73. Don't be DUped!!!
You did, with a little help from the Adobe Corporation!

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #56
63. Great shape she has, but DogGAMN is that pic ever airbrushed
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #56
69. She looks great.
If I'd looked that good when I was pregnant I'd have made sure to get pics too. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #69
74. Get out the pics, I'll boot up the Photoshop, and you'll be looking just as fine in NO time!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #74
75. You're funny.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #56
186. I hate those shoes.
Wait! WTF am I saying?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:18 PM
Response to Original message
60. THAT BITCH
She is my baby momma, and didnt even tell me!!!!!!!!!!:mad:




:sarcasm:



I actually like her as an artist, and she is damn hot too. I hope she is a better parent than britney...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #60
93. Could she be any worse?
She's not exactly that Winehouse chick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #93
98. Now I'm REALLY getting depressed!
Let's hear the cacophony of defense for her! :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #98
111. I'm not defending nor being critical of anyone.
As I recall, Madonna is a good parent, former wild child and has done a NUMBER of nude scenes and publications. On the other hand, Britney seems (in the media, anyway) to be a very poor mother at times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #111
114. and wasnt it britney who was portrayed for a while as the 'good virgin' girl stereotype?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:46 PM
Original message
Wasn't she a Mouseketeer or something?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #114
123. virginity lost at 14. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #123
125. but not per her image, right? christina was the wild child, she the innocent one?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #125
126. she made a huge deal of saying she was a virgin and was going to wait for marriage...
Christina had a racy act, but I think she is more mature and classy outside of show business. And she it MUCH more talented than Spears.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #126
141. It's ALL marketing BS
their images are pure marketing; they are commodities. Reality never enters into it. Except that the whole enterprise has earned them and a lot of others millions of $$$.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #141
172. Exactly! They are just PRODUCTS and nothing more
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #111
136. It "seems" like Britney is a very poor mother at times?
What gave it away for you-- the fact that the courts TOOK her kids from her because she is a shitty mother?

The worse part is that she doesn't seem to care less. Whatever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:37 PM
Response to Original message
76. her husband should not have allowed that. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #76
78. seconded. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #78
81. Series????
:wow:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #81
82. asian women are very submissive. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #82
84. agreed. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #84
140. you're a prime example of that - nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #81
85. not really. just mocking people who say sexist things, but get outraged
when others do.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:13 PM
Response to Original message
94. I don't think that picture, or whatever it is that is the attitude behind it
say anything about what kind of mother CA will make.

My guess is that none of us know enough about her to make such a judgment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. she was obviously raised in a bad environment. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #94
97. Let me ask you this:
How different can she be from her colleague Brittany?

I have my suspicions; we can revisit this issue in a few years and see who was right, and who was wrrrrrrrrr :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #97
99. I think it's highly possible that she's a LOT different from Britney
and I don't know what you think I'm wrong about. I haven't made any judgments.

You should try that sometime.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #99
105. Really?
They are so similar in so many ways, all the way back to the mouse club!

I'm not really judging her, I'm expressing concern that she is in for a rude awakening when motherhood comes; like the one Brittany had.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #105
107. you really know THAT much about these two women to say
that they're alike?

How much time have you spent w/ either one of them?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #107
118. Not one minute.
MissMillie, they are child products of Hollyweird. They live in a different universe than we do. Look at Brittany Spears. She is a disgrace to the human race. And she probably thinks she is normal. Why? Because she is surrounded by people under her employment who tell her so!

These people aren't normal. Normal people don't need PR firms to spin to the world that they are normal. Normal people don't live in the spotlight. When normal people get put into the spotlight, they either leave the spotlight right away and remain normal (a "normal" response), or remain in the spotlight and become abnormal.

Only when the spotlight is turned off can they ever have any hope of becoming normal again. Sometimes they don't, and they just live in bitterness that their 15 minutes of fame are gone.

My .02 :rant:

:hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #118
120. so you're painting them both w/ the same brush
despite not having any reason to believe that they are the same.

gotcha.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #120
133. ???
I just gave you my reasoning! The Hollyweird rant, remember?

But we'll see if my hunch is wrong. Certainly the dire predictions about BS have come true in spades!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #133
145. yes, I remember
you said Britney was from Hollyweird. and apparently, despite having absolutely no reason to believe so, you think CA is the same.

Not to defend Britney, but how much hollyweird gossip... that stuff that you read/see on TV do you actually believe to be true?

Do you think for one moment that either one of these women have a side to them that isn't shown on Access Hollywood?

You're making judgments, and you're making them based on limited and incomplete information.

So according to you, Christina's got a rude awakening coming... and you know this because you are so in-tuned to what her life is like after reading about her on Yahoo News.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #145
148. ...
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #145
149. I'm making generalized judgments
They live in a world that is different from ours. They are different. They spend $3000 on a fucking purse. That's not normal. Now, I'm not saying that it is bad or good (here, anyways), I'm just saying it isn't normal.

It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, the responsibility for raising children is the same. As I said before, it is hard enough for well adjusted people to do it, let alone Hollyweird types. The smart ones drop out of the limelight to raise their families; the dumbshit ones allow their every move to be documented by the media.

Yes, being a parent is a rude awakening. It can be harder for the celebrity types. I hold up Britney as exhibit A.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #149
150. finally... you're admitting it!
that's the first step to recovery.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #150
152. What is wrong with making generalizations?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #152
154. nothing, they're just messing with you. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #152
155. Just do me a favor
don't judge me according to other liberal single mothers from Massachusetts. It's quite possible that my life bears no resemblence to the lives of anyone else you're trying to lump me up with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #155
160. Done!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #105
109. she is completely different than Britney, starting with a huge advantage in talent. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #109
135. What's talent got to do with it?
If CA is more talented than BS, why then is BS nearly twice as wealthy as CA? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
103. this is a result of the feminization of our culture. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #103
112. this is a result of the feminist movement, women w. no morals. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #112
113. spot on analysis. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #113
116. i know. we rock. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
137. Hey everybody, I'm pregnant!' I'm not that girl."
couldn't prove it by the Marie Claire cover. If that doesn't SCREAM Hey everybody, I'm pregnant!, nothing does.
Just jealous here, I didn't look nearly that sexy when pregnant.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #137
143. The reality is-- SHE doesn't, either, without wickEd photoshop sKiLz nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #137
147. I don't look nearly that sexy when NOT pregnant
but I did have great skin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:20 PM
Response to Original message
142. this is what happens when the man is not the primary source of income for a family. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #142
158. LOL!
Ah well, selling your body beats the hell out of selling your soul.

All you feminists on this thread, I LOVE YOU!

:loveya:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #158
162. its better than the pole. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:57 PM
Response to Original message
156. Anyone want to hijack this thread?
I like puppies. They're cute. So are penguins.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #156
157. I loves me some penguins
Believe it or not... I have this tattoo

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #157
159. You rule. Let's get married.
Just don't tell my wife.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #156
167. i like naked girls even more than puppies
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #167
168. You sickening male chauvinist!
Oh, wait a minute... I didn't realize who was posting.

Gosh gosh gosh, I just don't know what to think!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #168
171. theres nothing wrong with liking naked girls.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #171
174. Some of my best friends have been naked girls
Whew. It's such a relief to admit that to someone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #168
176. I like naked women more than naked penguins
Or clothed penguins.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #156
173. I wish Christina had shown her puppies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:03 PM
Response to Original message
163. I love lounge meltdowns
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #163
170. If/when you add to your Flamefest meter graphic...
I strongly support adding this one somehow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
169. When an "artist" rips off freakin' Demi Moore...
one can't deny that we really are living in the era of very diminished expectations
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:01 AM
Response to Original message
204. Wow. You have issues.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #204
208. Well, let's be honest here
Who doesn't? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:15 AM
Response to Original message
205. You know, Christina has turned out pretty well compared to her Disney counterpart
She's been married several years now, very rarely being stalked by the papparazzi and you don't hear stories about her getting drunk or overdoing it with drugs.

So she's got a smoking hot pregnant body? Go ahead and flaunt it! I admire the fact that she's still doing well after all these years when so many of the girls who made it back when she did are now going to rehab.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #205
209. I've said too much already; I wish her the best in her new career as a mother
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 12:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC