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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:16 AM
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Last movie you saw?
Last night, I watched this documentary I got from Netflix, "Red Without Blue", about a pair of identical twins, Mark and Alex. Both are gay, but Alex decided to change his gender. The movie talks about their past, their troubled family life, and the discrimination they had to deal with. And about how Alex...now Clair...is dealing with her life as a woman. It's an absolutely fascinating film.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:18 AM
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1. Wow, that does sound interesting
I watched Good Night and Good Luck for the first time.

Really liked it!

:hi:

RL
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:21 AM
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2. I liked "Good Night and Good Luck" a lot.
I've seen it 3 times...just a superb film. Terrific acting all around, interesting subject matter...and filmed in glorious black and white! George Clooney is becoming quite an accomplished film maker!

:hi:
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:24 AM
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3. 40 Year Old Virgin
I hadn't taken the time to watch it because it looked like just a slapstick comedy. But of course it was nothing of the sort. It was a great movie. I should have known better. It seems like anything Steve Corell is associated with it is great.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:28 AM
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4. I agree.
It's a nice movie. And if you want to check out another terrific movie with Steve Corell, check out "Little Miss Sunshine" sometime.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:57 AM
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6. Little Miss Sunshine was great!
I was sure to see that one in the theaters.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:37 AM
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5. The Hudsucker Proxy, Practical Magic, and Raising Arizona were all on TV
this week while I was doing Christmas Projects. I had not seen Hudsucker before and I loved it. The others were repeat viewings but still enjoyed them
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:58 AM
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7. Beowulf. n/t
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:48 PM
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83. me too
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:59 AM
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8. Sicko at the theater
I also saw David Gilmour's Concert DVD and interview. It was broadcast at 120 theaters here in the states. Nice to see on the big screen. :)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:59 AM
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9. Redline
terrible.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:00 AM
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10. "Into the Wild"
I thought it was a good adaptation, good performances and excellent visuals and sound track.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:08 PM
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19. That's was a very interesting film, and I hadn't read the book or magazine article.
Loved the soundtrack, too.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 01:21 PM
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80. yeah, one of the few films where i think the movie was actually better than
the book - the story line was made more concise & the visuals did a better job of conveying the characters and places.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:07 AM
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11. You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train
doc about Howard Zinn
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:10 AM
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12. "No Country For Old Men"
Holy cats, is it good. I think it might be the Coen Brothers' best. Very intense and dark though, FAR more to the "Miller's Crossing" side of their work than to the "Big Lebowski" side.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:02 PM
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26. I really need to see that film.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:03 PM
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38. Yes, you really do...
:thumbsup:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 05:39 PM
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45. Outstanding film.
Intense. Very very intense.

The score was awesome. ;)
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:21 PM
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56. Loved the film but the score was overblown and intrusive at times.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:14 AM
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13. Talledega Nights!
Good for some chortles. Right now I am part way through The Guru, which I've seen before, but beggars can't be choosers.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:16 AM
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14. Enchanted
Yes, it's Disney. Yes, it's corny.

Yes, it's absolutely worth the ticket price.

Honestly, one of the cutest movies in a LONG time.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:43 AM
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65. That was my last movie, too
It was fun, and not entirely predictable.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:18 AM
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15. La Vie En Rose last night
and No Country For Old Men yesterday afternoon. :)

:hi:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:11 PM
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28. How were they?
Interested in seeing both, but I could use a review.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:28 PM
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33. Both were excellent!!
No Country For Old Men was incredible...Sniffa actually stayed awake through the entire film, which says a lot. He *loved* it. Dark and violent, but riveting.

La Vie En Rose was also incredibly good, I'ma huge Piaf fan, but it was just great. Sniffa also liked it, even though it was en Francais.

:)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 06:29 PM
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47. La Vie en Rose was great!
very moving.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:20 AM
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16. Lars and the Real Girl
A quiet, but fun, little film
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:20 AM
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17. Knocked Up...
laughed hysterically.


and on TV yesterday
the Mummy


lost
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:04 PM
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18. last night we saw "Into the Wild"...the new Sean Penn movie.
it was outstanding. Very powerful, poignant and beautifully filmed. :thumbsup:

:hi:

The movie you saw sounds fascinating. I remember reading about that film in the paper. I'll have to make a note of seeing that one.

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:08 PM
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20. "American Gangster" - just saw it yesterday afternoon.
Positively riveting film. Oscar material to be sure.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 08:58 PM
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55. Great Movie! n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:14 PM
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21. Country For No Old Men
saw it yesterday, and i'm still terrified.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:25 PM
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22. 30 days of night, at the theatre
and I just watched Tombstone last night. I love that movie
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 08:12 PM
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52. 30 Days of Night
:headbang: It wasn't the best zombie movie ever but I still loved it!
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:33 AM
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62. yeah we liked it too
I really like the scene where the main vampire says to the girl "No God" before she dies.

It was just a weird cool scene.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:17 AM
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67. I want to see 30 Days...
...but it's such an ordeal to get a sitter. Would you say, it's a must-see on the big screen?
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:28 PM
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23. We watched O Brother, Where Art Thou? yesterday.
"Weeee....thoooought.....yoooou......wuuuuuuz......aaaaaa......tooooooad." :rofl:
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:29 PM
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24. "Bender's Big Score"
the new Futurama movie.
Bender was the reason
that dumbya won in 2000. x(
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:29 PM
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25. August Rush
Inspired me to tune up my guitar and get back to being busy with my piano.

Loved it!
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:40 PM
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59. Same. After that movie I grabbed my guitar and wrote a song.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 03:10 AM
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63. Loved it big time
Stand up and cheer is right!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:03 PM
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27. Control
Anton Corbijn's biopic about Ian Curtis. Damn good film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_%282007_film%29
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:17 PM
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39. I just now noticed your post after I posted the same movie.
you liked it, too. :thumbsup:
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 04:02 PM
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Hells yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:13 PM
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29. The Good Shepherd
it sucked

:(
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:15 PM
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30. "Michael Clayton." Excellent.
Three Academy Award-worthy performances - supporting actress, supporting actor and best actor - yes, Clooney is that good in this one.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:20 PM
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31. Beavis and Butthead Do America
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:25 PM
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32. My dear terrya...
We just watched "The Hoax" with Richard Gere...

The story about how Clifford Irving tried to foist his fake autobiography of Howard Huges off on a major publishing house!

Fascinating...
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:44 PM
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34. Control (about ian curtis and Joy Division)
awesome movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421082/

trailer

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7c2_B_cWK_M&feature=related
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:47 PM
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35. i watched 'chocolat' last night
i'd forgotten just how wonderful that movie is
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:59 PM
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88. I recorded that.
I've never seen it... looking forward to it. Maybe this weekend...

:hi:
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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:47 PM
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36. Notes on a Scandal
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:53 PM
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37. Just watched "Unleashed" on DVD last night.
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 02:55 PM by mutley_r_us
Last movie at the theater...

I think it was "Resident Evil".

I've been broke lately. :(




edit: I don't think I've ever had more typos in a single post. :o
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:23 PM
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40. I'm in the middle of The US vs. John Lennon
It's fascinating and it's driving me crazy that I can only watch it in snippets. Maybe when the networks run out of new shows due to the writers' strike I can catch up on all the movies I've saved on the TiVo but haven't watched. Some of those have been on there a year...
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:37 PM
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42. The Mist and it SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, to be fair, it's not my kind of movie
I'd be inclined to gravitate toward (I was with a group and we were trying to come up with something that we could all agree on). However, I have in the past few weeks been on a movie binge:
Lars and the Real Girl - Wonderful
No country of Old Men - Outstanding and terrifying
Into the Wild - Excellent
Gone Baby Gone - Outstanding with many plot twists
But the favorite one that I've seen out of all of them is:
Michael Clayton - OMG - I want to see it again. IMHO it's the best movie of the year. George Clooney is absolutely riveting.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:23 AM
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68. Lennon movie was great!!
:thumbsup:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:32 PM
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41. Enchanted...
with my 17yo daughter. A great chick flick esp if you grew up on Disney films. I could see it again to catch the inside jokes I know I must have missed
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 04:02 PM
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43. I just watched a friggin' scary movie and
I had to go for a ride in the car to blow it off! :P

It gave me the willies and it's called "Disturbia"

It was definitely disturbing and had me on the edge of my seat!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 05:38 PM
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44. Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium
I saw this last weekend with the youngest kid. My culture consultant (my 20-year-old son) told me it would be horrible and was getting poor reviews.

I liked it.

Hoffman was doing his character thing, and Portman was very good. It's not a blockbuster, but I'd recommend it to anyone.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 06:28 PM
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46. I'm Not Here - the Dylan character piece - it was a lot of fun with many
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 06:32 PM by tigereye
in jokes.

I also finally watched Bad Santa with my husband - the acting was good, although it was still hard to like the Billy Bob character.

I thought Lauren Graham was hilarious, though, and the guy who played the little person/Elf stole the show.


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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 06:33 PM
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48. Ratatouille, again, last night.
I LOVE Pixar. At least the ones where Disney doesn't have their naughty bits firmly implanted in them.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 07:12 PM
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49. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
AWESOME
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 07:57 PM
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50. Sicko. Before that, F-911.
Not much of a movie-goer, obviously!
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 08:10 PM
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51. The Great Gatsby
I finally read the book so then I finally watched the movie. It was alright :shrug:
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 08:12 PM
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53. Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film For Theaters
It was fun.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 08:22 PM
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54. Sunday.
Independent film. Okay, but nothing great.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:28 PM
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57. Blackballed
Who knew that bowls was even a sport?
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:39 PM
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58. In Pot We Trust.
Decent movie, but Grass was better.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:28 PM
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60. Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz.
Thank you library for stocking these. GREAT movies. I could have done without the overuse of the Requiem for a Dream-ish editing, but those were the best damned comedies I've seen in a while. Don't know what took me so long to view SOTD.
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From The Ashes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:31 AM
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61. My last Netflix movies were:
The Queen (very good and Helen Mirren is a dead ringer for Queen Elizabeth),Outfoxed (fascinating movie)and Reign over me (Adam Sandler in a serious role? Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?)

My new Netflix movies are: a George Clooney double feature--Good night and good luck, and Ocean's 13, and Monty Python's Life of Brian.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 03:29 AM
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64. The Mist
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 03:38 AM by Downtown Hound
Caught a late show yesterday. Pretty creepy flick. Some surprisingly weak CG effects but overall the movie was good. I read that they had a budget of only 18 million, so actually the special effects were quite extraordinary for such a limited budget.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:16 AM
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66. District B13
at home. In the theater: Resident Evil: Extinction
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:27 AM
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69. The Station Agent
Very different and VERY good. Loved it!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:40 PM
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81. I love that movie
So much I bought it. And I don't buy many movies.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:34 AM
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70. Scratch A documentary on hip-hop, DJs turntablism
I thought it was well done. Worth looking up if you are into the music.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:36 AM
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71. 30 Days of Night. nt.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:37 AM
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72. Sicko. nt
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:41 AM
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73. The Bourne Ultimatium
Was able to see it at a second-run theater. Took my parents.
Loved it.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:45 AM
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74. The Birds in hi-def
The last first run movie was The Mist.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:55 AM
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75. Waitress
A nice little movie about a woman with an abusive husband who finds herself pregnant and is trying to escape by winning a pie baking contest. Though afterwards I found out the writer/director/supporting cast member, Adrienne Shelly, was murdered before the film was released.

*For those of you wanting a Firefly fix, Nathan Fillion is in it, too.
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momophile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:59 AM
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76. The Sting
my husband had never seen it. I've seen it on TV maybe six times.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 01:07 PM
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77. "Pierrepoint: The Last Hangman"
I couldn't look away from Pierrepoint, an account of the real-life British executioner Albert Pierrepoint, though afterwards I was rather drained. The great Timothy Spall (Secrets & Lies) plays the title figure.

The story takes some liberties with the facts (chronology, details, etc.) but is unflinching in its depiction of the task of the hangman. It's riveting, thought-provoking, and highly disturbing.

My next Netflix selection will have to be some comic relief!
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 01:07 PM
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78. In the theater...and at home.
Last movie I saw in the theater was Superbad.

Last movie I watched at home was Knocked Up.

Weird...just worked out that way.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 01:12 PM
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79. The Boss of it All.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:45 PM
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82. I'm Not There
Interesting for Dylan fanatics (such as myself), but my wife, who isn't one, didn't like it at all. A pretty self-indulgent film, in my opinion. Ambitious, I'll give it that.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:52 PM
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84. The Golden Compass...
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:57 PM
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85. Wind That Shakes The Barley
Great movie but a very brutal and heart wrenching story. Keep the kids clear of this one from the first minute. The fact that I have kids might explain why I just viewed a movie that was released in 2006.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460989/
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:57 PM
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86. Help! on a free movie site online
Before that I saw The Departed. Before that A Nous la Liberte.

Last movie I saw in a theatre: Two Days in Paris.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:58 PM
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87. Phone Booth.
Yes, it's shit. But it's got Colin Farrell in it. :7
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 03:07 PM
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89. A cool, inept, low-budget 1958 horror flick, "The Return Of Dracula"




Francis Lederer as Dracula, posing as "Bellac Gordal," a passenger he kills on a train.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052131/plotsummary

Count Dracula kills a passenger on a train in Transylvania and steals his identity. He comes to a small community in California where the Mayberrys are expecting their cousin from Europe. His strange behaviour, sleeping all day and going out at night are surprising to young miss Rachel Mayberry. A policeman from Europe comes to investigate while Rachel's best friend Jenny dies unexpectedly. And the count plans on giving Rachel the gift of eternal life...
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