I'm reading The shock Doctrine and it reminded me of this thread. They have this special problem for drugs addicts. A behavorial program. My son almost went into it. This woman starts asking about it and this other woman starts talking about the program because she went thru it.
It's called prgrams from Gateway. I've been thinking about sending it to Naomi Klein because it's about breaking the prisoners so they can be rebuilt. "A clean slate"..
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166294It starts like this...
Poster 1
Someone gave me a link when I said my BF is going to Kyle Unit when there's an opening. I was told the program used there is about breaking them, and has nothing to do with rehabilitation. What I read on this web site is nothing but torture, and I am wondering how this can be going on without more info out about it?
http://brokenchains.us/Gateway-To-Hell/gateway.htmlAnd more - what can be done about it? Does anyone else around here know anything about this?
poster 2
I was at the SAFP unit in Gatesville, and we certainly did have to sit in chairs with our feet flat on the floor from 4am til 8pm for 3 weeks, staring straight ahead, no talking to anyone, no closing your eyes. This was during shutdown, as a unit punishment for bad behavior, for 3 weeks. I later found out that this is something they do on a regular basis regardless of behavior, though they use that as an excuse.
Our unit had pregnant women, people with diabetes and epilepsy, AIDS, serious mental problems, etc. During my time there, people regularly freaked out, went into seizures from the heat or the enforced immobility, or had psychological breakdowns and were sent to skyview unit.
We did not bark or wear diapers, but there was a lot of public shaming and humiliation. One girl write a love note to another girl she had a crush on. It was found and she was brought before the entire unit, 248 women, while the lieutenant and a counselor read the note aloud and commented on it, making fun of her, pointing and laughing. If we committed the smallest infraction, we were written up by fellow inmates desperate to get on the staff's good side. Say you loan a hungry inmate a cracker, and are caught. You are made to stand before the whole dorm and read a memorized L.E. telling what your punishment is and how sorry you are, and then you write a 1000 word essay on how wrong you were, and then you get to scrub the floor with a toothbrush for 5 hours or so. We all spent so much time scrubbing the floor with toothbrushes it was sparkling clean! It was a horribly run, abusive, shaming program, and it is very very true that every time TCADA or someone would come to investigate, we were told to shape up, look happy, and act perfectly contented. If we ever complained, the retaliation from the TDCJ staff was immediate. Any grievances about anything were met with a torn up cubicle and our posessions trashed.
We went on shutdown 2 days after 9-11 happened. We were forbidden to watch TV and had no way of knowing what was going on, whether we were at war, etc. If we asked, we were told that we needed to focus on our treatment and not worry about that. People were scared to death. They even took our clocks and watches so we couldn't know what time it was, and they took our ability to use razors to shave our underarms and legs at shower time away too, saying it was a "privilege". It was ungodly. I thank God above that I made it through.
kwolf
Poster 1
Oh my... I am so sorry to hear this Kwolf, and I am glad you made it through. Thank you for sharing this.
Poster 3 defends the program..
my husband was there several years ago and he is thankful for having had the opportunity to go there, we are trying to get our son to put in to go there. If you have ever been to a rehabilitation program, i have not personally but i know how the drug and alcohol abuse programs work, they try to teach humiliation and the "snitching" is part of the program so they learn how to keep one another clean. secrets do not help anyone. if you care about the other person, you will tell on them when they are in the wrong or in trouble, especially if it is to preserve their life. This is just one way to keep our loved ones going in the right direction. It also teaches them, that when they do enter the free world, humiliation does exist and they have to be ready to deal with it or they will end back up in the "system".
Poster 2 gets pissed..
Sorry, I do not agree that these are good programs. It's one thing to teach someone to be accountable and another thing to make someone scrub the floor with a toothbrush for 5 hours and write a 500 word essay on how terribly wrong it was to loan a squirt of shampoo to a new person that has none, or a few squres of toilet paper to someone who has none, or a pair of clean panties to a brand new person who has not been given any yet and is on their cycle. Those are not "criminal thinking errors", they are merely kindness, and a few months in SAFP will make you so scared to do anything for anyone or to lay a hand on someone you end up reacting with utter terror if someone lays a hand on you by mistake. It may work ok for some of the men, but this is a very poorly designed program for women, who are usually already victims of abuse and think horrible things about themselves
Poster 3 defends again then poster 2 goes off
You are entitled to your opinion, but I was there and I am just as entitled to mine, and I can assure you that I am not whining or complaining--this was rank ABUSE, mental and physical. People DIED there for lack of simple medical treatment, had nervous breakdowns at a very high rate and were hauled off to Skyview on a weekly basis, passed out after being forced to sit in plastic chairs in "props" for 14 to 16 hours a day without moving, speaking or closing their eyes, going weeks without being allowed to speak a single word to another human being, being made to sit in a cirle while the other inmates curse and scream at you and call you vile names and the counselors smile their approval and write you up if you don't participate, being forced to clap and sing along to christian religious songs on a nightly basis in "family group" and if you refused as a Jew or buddhist or whatever you were written up for "refusal to comply with treatment". SAFP's success rates are extremely low--in fact, it has been shown that more people reoffend out of a SAFP program than if they went to no rehab at all. That is why they have cut back so much on the funding for these programs. I saw so many women come out of that program a shell shocked shadow of their former selves. Addiction is a brain disease--no one can "yell" you out of it, and it's NOT a metter of making people think well, golly, that was really awful, I guess I had better straighten up and fly right now! There ARE effective treatments for addiction, but this is NOT one of them. It's abuse, pure and simple. In my time there, we had THREE counselors quit because they were appalled at our treatment--and they told us so. We had a guard who actually cried at the way we were being abused during shutdown--and she had been a prison guard for many years and did not cry easily. I saw pregnant women fall out of those chairs in the 100+ degree heat after hours on end and have seizures, and they were completely ignored. We werte a special needs unit with all kinds of seriously physically and mentally ill inmates as well as pregnant women, and none of them were properly treated. They were left to lie seizing on the ground or passed out in the blazing heat and if we tried to help them or to even break their fall--if we ever looked at them in fact--we were written up for physical contact. It often took over an hour for a nurse to arrive. Have you ever tried to clap your happy little hands and sing nursery rhymes while someone had a seizure by your feet on the floor and counselors hissed "don't any of you look down!! Group is up HERE!"
I could write a long long long book on all the abuses that went o n at that program. If your husband looks better it is no doubt because he is now off drugs, and anyone would look better off drugs. I don't know if his unit is conducted differently, but I can tell you that if you look around on this site you will find PLENTY of stories that back me up on this, and even websites that are dedicated to exposing the horrors that go on in this place in the name of "treatment" and the long term damage that it does, especially to women.
Defends and goes off..
I do not consider being abused better than getting no help, no. Most of the people I saw leaving that program knew exactly what to say to keep the punishments to a minimum and their families happy by the time they got out, but inside they were changed forever--made into something hard, brittle and deeply fearful. No one is talking about complaining because it's "not a walk in the park"--it is torture, and if the licensing agencies had any idea what really goes on in SAFP they would shut it down in a heartbeat. Sleep deprivation, public humiliation, name calling and vicious taunts, religious coercion, driving psychiatrically fragile people to the limits of their endurance, using mind control tactics that had many of the women experiencing what is called the Stockholm Syndrome, where they identify with and try desperately to please their captors, only to have their every attempt thwarted. Here's one example: During the shutdown, we were still supposed to be writing each other up for infractions, evben though there's not much wrong you can do when confined to a chair and forbidden to speak all day every day. When the counselors would come in and open up the box where we put the writeups, they would start screaming and raving at us because the box was not full enough, and we would "never" get off shutdown if we didn't start holding each other accountable for our horrible crimes we were doubtless committing while sitting silently in chairs. So the women would get all upset and confused, and wanting desperately to get off shutdown, would start writing each other up for things like closing their eyes for a few seconds, or whispering a word or two to a neighbor who was having a breakdown, or maybe even making something up entirely. Then the counselors would come in the next day and the box would be full, and they would again start screaming and raving saying that if we could not behave any better than that, we would never get off shutdown. Then they would leave and the women would collapse in tears of despair.
Or, they would have us speng six hours cleaning the dorm with rags and toothbrushes, and it would be so clean there was NOTHING anywhere to clean (48 women cleaning one small room for 6 hours, you can imagine), not a speck of dust to be found. Then the counselor supervisor, a huge mean bald guy that thundered and screamed at everyone all the time, would come in and run his finger along a railing that was clean as clean could be, look at it, and scream "This dorm is FILTHY!!!!! You will NEVER get off shutdown!!!"
Their goal seemed to be to cause everyone to turn against everyone else, and it turned into a sick little junior high school charade, with everyone plotting and note writing and tattling and having affairs with guards and inmates alike, and it was a sick, sad, horrible environment. Again, I was not at the men's units, so I can only speak for the women, and maybe men can take that kind of stuff better, but in no way is it good for anyone. Treatment is not about torture and mind control, it's about helping people get better.
and it keeps going on for pages. This women who was in this program is scarred for life. You can read the whole exchange at this link.
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166294&page=2The reason I'm bringing it up is becasue it reminds me of the medical experiments in the Shock Doctrine. Do you think Klein would be interested. I know she's busy but I think she will she the connection.