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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:00 PM
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Who knows stuff about dessert wine?
Sometimes I like to have a nice port or fortified wine after dinner. It's nice by itself or with some chocolate.

But one of the greatest dessert wines I have ever had was one called Pedro Ximinez, but I actually think that's a type of wine rather than a brand name. Who knows where to get some?

I had it at this Tapas place in Washington, DC. http://www.jaleo.com/dessertsWines.htm It went very well with their apple dessert. mmm... I want some more, but I live in Minnesota.

It's sooooooooo good!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:12 PM
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1. PX is the type of grape, I believe
Try looking for it via PX or the other spelling, Pedro Jimenez (sp?).

Here's a 96 point 1927 Alvear PX sherry (on backorder, but available):

http://www.thewinecountry.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=0766238809777&Category_Code=7Dessert-Wine&Store_Code=TWC&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=cpc
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:55 PM
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8. Yup it's a grape
I found some stuff on Wikipedia. It turns out they grow it in places other than Spain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dessert_wine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Xim%C3%A9nez
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:14 PM
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2. I was going to say, it sounds like a sherry
they can be pretty nice as a dessert wine. but I'd rather have a port.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:33 PM
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3. One word -
Eiswein.

It's darned expensive, but really, really good. Go for the stuff from Germany. The Canadian ones that I've tried just haven't been as good, nor was the New Zealand one that I tried.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:13 PM
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14. I got some Canadian ice wine recently
It was quite good, though so sweet you barely want any.
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Gonzo Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:26 PM
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16. I'm hooked on...
Leelanau Wine Cellars Late Harvest Johannisburg Riesling, Riesling Ice Wine, and the Winter White @ $4.99 per bottle is wonderful for cooking... and sipping. I bring cases home every time I visit Northern Mi. :9

http://www.leelanaucellars.com/
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:26 PM
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17. A slightly less expensive but delicious alternative is "Beerenauslese"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerenauslese

Also look for "Trockenbeerenauslese"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trockenbeerenauslese

Very rich, sweet dessert wines, mostly from Austria and Germany.

You could have an Eiswein from either of those two types but if I am not mistaken, the German and Austrian wine labeling regs. were changed so that Eiswein was Eiswein, regardless if the berries were selectively picked out or not.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:36 PM
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4. I had the opportunity to sample some 50 year old Sauternes once
Unbelievable experience. Of course, they were totally unaffordable.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:39 PM
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6. 50? aw heck
the good ones, like Y'Quem, are good for a century, easy!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:00 PM
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10. You're also talking about several hundred bucks a bottle.
The same people had some ports that were bottled just before and during WWII. Wow, were those incredible.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:10 PM
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11. that's generous
and I think you forgot a zero on your prices. a 1947 (50 year old) Yquem (750ml) will run you between 3-6 thousand, depending on the condition.

the oldest I could find in today's prices was a 1787, for $157,998.

I remember reading about a year back about a vertical, from 1787-1997, one bottle each year, most were 750s, although some were magnums, selling for $4.5 million.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:13 PM
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13. Wow!
the Yquems we sampled were from the early 1960s. So I guess they weren't quite 50 years old. But they were 40!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:38 PM
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5. PX is also, all heresy aside
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 12:42 PM by northzax
great on vanilla ice cream.

alas, Minnesota has archaic rules about not shiping wine into the state. I bet Surdyk's in Minneapolis carries it, or can get a good one for you (surdyks.com)
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:53 PM
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7. Good call.
I looked around and it looks like Surdyk's and Haskell's carry some PX wines. Haskell's has the Lustau PX for $25. I don't know about putting wine on ice cream, but I do like ice cream. Coolness.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:58 PM
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9. hence the heresy
a good PX is really more like syrup than wine, so it works. it's the only thing I have found (save a port reduction) that works on ice cream.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:12 PM
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12. i like Muskrat
:beer:
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:14 PM
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15. It's sweet.
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