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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:43 AM Original message |
About suicide... |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. People are implicating that suicide is brought on by cowardice? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I don't know... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Implicating? I've read it spelled out loud many times. Here and elsewhere. It's almost a cliché. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. The old "boot strappers" are still around, amazingly enough. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. Actually, people are implying, and even outright saying... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. You started it? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. heheh |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. I'm...speechless. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. . |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
92. My last summer when I was employed as a teacher, 6 of my students |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. "couldn't face the guilt that he had 'failed' his family" |
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BarenakedLady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you sweetie |
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BelleCarolinaPeridot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Exactly ... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Trust me... I know... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:55 AM Original message |
Rec'd. nt |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. Indeed |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. My pleasure... |
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BelleCarolinaPeridot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. I am not a coward . |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. good for you |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. No, you aren't. |
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BelleCarolinaPeridot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. With me its chemical ... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I was the happiest kid in the world |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Sometimes it's not that, though... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I'm sorry, sweetie. |
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qb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
15. I agree. Suicide is not caused by selfishness. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Loving care, offers to help, as much support as you can offer... |
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BelleCarolinaPeridot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. You don't know how many times people used to laugh at me ... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
17. Kicking someone when they're down is the height of cowardice |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. It's just a failure to understand what's going on in someone else's head. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I can't understand the thought processes of most people |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I don't think it's a Christian thing... I think it's a nurturing thing... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Now that makes sense. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
18. The "punking out" meme, however, is in fact one way of coping. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Strength... that resonates with me. |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
89. Exactly |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #89 |
110. I know... I really do. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
23. bravo. nt. |
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Parche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
25. rq |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
32. agreed |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. "and not only when the subject is suicide" |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I've seen people being called cowards for divorcing. And for NOT divorcing. |
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sanguinivorous (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
33. For those who automatically think of suicide as "cowardly"... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The ONLY time when I would call suicide a "cowardly" act... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. There's nothing cowardly about it |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. a thought process develops |
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sanguinivorous (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. "A thought process develops... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
40. I disagree from experience... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. "Mentally ill people are by nature, self-centered" |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
113. I think she meant, and expressed inartfully, |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. "Mentally ill people are by nature, self-centered..." Fuck you. |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Solon |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. It just pisses me off, my mother is bi-polar... |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I understand |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Hey. |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Thanks! |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Hey. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
111. But you are being judgmental |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. From what I'm reading of your post, it sounds like... |
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Ahpook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
81. Very true. |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
83. I love how saying "self-centered" immediately gets an assload of people on you. |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
103. You don't know anyone who is mentally ill |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
112. Whether or not it's being used in a negative way, |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. No they are not cowards. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
45. that sounds right... |
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texas1928 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. Most just need a friend to sit and listen. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I can't join you in the country... |
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texas1928 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Efires will not work. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Well if there's ever anything I can do... |
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texas1928 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Oh yeah and after the debate in South Carolina... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! |
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Cabcere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
49. Dying is easy. It's living that's hard. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. But I am telling you, as someone who has struggled with this, |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. And I am telling you, as someone who has struggled with this also, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. But you see! You changed it! |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I do understand what you are saying, and would agree that it does no |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. They already know about the consequences. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I disagree with you. We'll have to leave it at that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Okay... but let me make an analogy... |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
93. Joe |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Boy, all the memes are here. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Conversely, until you know me personally, my life history, |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. Amen. Don't bully them, call their loved ones cowards, or tell them that they |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. We should be way beyond so many things... |
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swag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. Hear hear! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Thanks. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
75. The hardest thing I've ever done in my life |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Bless you. |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
77. Is all this about Heath Ledger? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Um, no. "Sheesh"? |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
95. No, its not about Heath Ledger |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I'm sorry... |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
80. And I think everyone jumping all over Redstone's post was cruel and hasty. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Your rambling anecdote doesn't argue for calling all people |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
105. I didn't see it that way. |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
82. Are we still all going on about suicide? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Not about Ledger. (nt) |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Well, no, I understand that, but Ledger seems to be the source of all these offsprings. |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Yeah, my question too. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. No one is going to admit it? |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. I think it was Ledger's death--suspicions of suicide. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Whatever. (nt) |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
109. Whether he committed suicide |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
99. "Still going on about suicide" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Stunning, isn't it. |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. More like heartless |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. I guess what's irritating is that a lot of them have deteriorated into flame wars. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. "A lot of them"... "too many of" |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
86. This suicide survivor thanks you |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. My pleasure... |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
94. Redqueen |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. My pleasure, GIC... |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #97 |
108. Probably for the best. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
114. Fuckin' A Right! |
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115. Well said, but not everybody knows. |
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