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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:53 AM
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Im looking for a small very progressive town (not city)
to move to in the next few years. anyone at DU have any advice.
ive heard vermont is a nice place to live....:)
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:56 AM
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1. Do you have any parameters?
Do you prefer a coast, do you want to be near a major city, is weather a factor, do you have any occupational requirements, etc....
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:03 PM
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3. i guess i wasnt to specific
lets see...i would prefer a coast (either one), would rather not be near a major city and only mild weather (no extremes,)
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:08 PM
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4. Sounds like Arcata (in far Northern California) might fit the bill
It's right on the coast in Humboldt County, among the giant redwoods, VERY progressive and groovy, far from a major city, college town.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:13 PM
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9. nice..
ive spent time in oregon. love the whole pacific northwest.
never made it into california though. (regrettably)
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:43 PM
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11. This will give you an idea of Arcata's politics:
From Wikipedia:

Recent history

In August 1989, the voters of Arcata passed the Nuclear Weapons Free Zone Act, prohibiting activities benefiting nuclear weapons contractors within city jurisdictional limits.

In 2003 the city passed a law making it illegal to voluntarily cooperate with enforcement of the USA PATRIOT Act, making it the first to take such a step. <7>

On January 4, 2006, the Arcata city council adopted the New Year's Resolution, demanding the impeachment or the resignation of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney for violations of Constitutional and International law, making it the first city to pass such a resolution. This is the second time the City Council has passed a resolution calling for the impeachment of President Bush.

Arcata is also known for its progressive involvement in environmental politics and environmental activism. As an example, in 1981, Arcata constructed the Arcata Marsh and Wildlife Sanctuary. The Arcata Marsh has multiple uses including recreation, wildlife habitat, education, and wastewater treatment. In 1996 Arcata elected the first-ever Green Party city council majority. This majority was lost two years later, restored in 2004 and lost again in 2006.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:43 PM
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12. just finished reading this myself
sounds like a great place.
wonder if other small towns in that area are the same
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:39 PM
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45. They're totally not
Most of the other towns up there are depressed lumber towns.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:49 PM
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15. I'll second that.
That was going to be my suggestion, too. :hi:

GREAT area.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:38 PM
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44. 3 things:
Arcata is a VERY small town, you won't see the sun for 11 months out of the year, and it's like GDP in that people will look at you like you're Hitler if you buy conventional produce in the grocery store or have a problem with trustafarians shitting in the parks.

But some people really like it there. :shrug:
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:04 PM
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49. interesting perspective
ill keep it in mind
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:10 PM
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5. Whoops! Don't move to Marlborough! 2 hours from the coast
and snowing like a bastard right now. Take a look at Kennybunkport, Maine.
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MassLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:33 PM
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29. is Kennebunkport progressive?
That's where Bush Sr. has his summer place, and the town has always struck me as very preppy and conservative. Brunswick, Maine, might be more progressive, and it's near the ocean, but they do get a ton of snow!
:hi:
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:57 AM
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2. Marlborough, New Hampshire
Located in SW NH not far from the Vt border. Close enough to Boston to go there for fun and "culture". The town went for Kerry overwhelmingly and the Selectmen passed a resolution to inpeach the chimp.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:11 PM
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6. Chapel Hill & Durham NC
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 12:12 PM by supernova
:hi:

We're all college towns here. :D

About 2-3 hours to the beach and about 3.5 hours to the mountains.

We have all sorts of cultural amenities that you wouldn't believe: symphony, all kinds of drama troupes and improv companies, The American Dance Festival (modern dance), all kinds of street fairs in the spring and summer. Farmers markets, flea markets, museums and other stuff. Restaurants for every appetite, And lots of progressive politics to keep you going.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:13 PM
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8. oops - sorry for the dupe. Great minds think alike!
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:16 PM
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10. sounds great
thanks:)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:12 PM
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7. Chapel Hill or Carrboro, NC. Trouble is, very expensive.
Incredibly extreme drought right now, too. But this area fits your parameters.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:43 PM
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13. North Hampton, MA
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:02 PM
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22. One word, d00d....
All of our -hamptons are one word. Southampton, Northampton, Easthampton, and Westhampton. :hi:

But yeah, that was gonna be my suggestion too. Love 'hamp!
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MassLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:33 PM
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30. NoHo...heaven on earth
:loveya:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:48 PM
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14. New Hope PA or Lambertville, NJ
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:54 PM
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16. Ithaca, New York or Corvallis, Oregon
I've lived in both.
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Zoigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:28 PM
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28. Corvallis must have changed.
It was pretty conservative (compared to Eugene) when
we lived in Oregon. Both are lovely towns though. z
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:02 PM
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36. The Oregon State IS more conservative than U of O
However, the town is a different matter, and it's more compact and manageable than Eugene.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:06 PM
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50. i really do love oregon
ive been giving it alot of thought
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:55 PM
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17. Asheville, NC
~70,000 people, so it's not quite a big city. A very liberal and progressive area in a beautiful setting in the western NC mountains. I used to live there, and I miss it terribly.

:cry:
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:56 PM
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18. Danville, KY
A beautiful little town south of Lexington, home of Centre College one of the best Liberal Arts Colleges in the country. Has been listed as an All-American City and I think has a French sister city. Beautiful old homes, great Main Street, terrific arts center called Norton Center for the Arts, great hospital and gorgeous countryside. Although I live in Lexington, my friends and I spend a lot of time in Danville going to plays and concerts. If you want a small, progressive and lovely town, can't beat it.
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:58 PM
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19. Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Winner hands down.
Small town in the Ozarks. Very eclectic, progressive population.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:13 PM
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24. Eureka Springs is very cute!
Great site. Was there for a daytrip coupla years ago. Very nice.

:)
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:28 PM
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52. Waaaaaayyyy too cute. But by all appearances very accepting...
Son is getting married there next October on the weekend that coincides with their fall gay/transgendered celebration. Have some relatives that will have their eyes opened.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:26 PM
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27. I love Eureka Springs but
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 02:29 PM by Coyote_Bandit
you should be aware that it is a very small town (population less than 5000) whose primary (almost exclusive) industry is tourism. That tourism is seasonal. And a lot of it is comprised of faith based tourists who come to see the outdoor Passion Play.

Yeah, there is some artsy crafty stuff and some antiquey stuff. But it does not compare to what is available in some other tourist areas - much less a metropolitan area.

Yeah, the town is gay friendly. Supposedly. Many of the shops close on weekends that host gay couples. There has been some nastiness there regarding the issue. Before this there was quite a bit of nastiness that surrounded efforts to host new age and pagan tourists. The Christian community there has a long history of trying to keep the place "Christian."


Edit to add: I have extended family that live nearby and have had an opportunity to observe events there for 40 some years now......
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:58 PM
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20. Boulder, Colorado? Sante Fe, NM?
:shrug:
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:29 PM
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53. I go to SF 3 times a year love it. But boy is it expensive. And water could be an issue.
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suninvited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:01 PM
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21. I can only tell you to avoid the
town I live in. There is NOTHING progressive about it.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:07 PM
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23. Santa Cruz, Calif.
It's a smaller (about 50,000) version of San Francisco. Right on the coast of Monterey Bay with redwood forests just a few miles north, lots of live music and great places to eat. At the outdoor Pacific Garden Mall you'll find buskers, kids playing Hacky Sack, impromptu music etc. etc. etc.

A few years ago, when the feds came to bust the medical marijuana clubs, the city council told them to go fuck themselves.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/14597.php

http://www.cannabismd.org/reports/valcorral1.php

http://www.santacruzvsashcroft.com/

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/09/06/MN212302.DTL



I'm moving there about four seconds after my house sells.



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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:17 PM
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25. Grinnell or Fairfield Iowa.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 02:18 PM by mycritters2
I'm planning to retire to Grinnell, home of Grinnell College, a very lefty school.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:23 PM
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43. that sounds cool
My heart will always belong to Iowa, it feels right when I'm there even though it's been 35 years since I lived there. Bet the cost of living is dirt cheap too. :) what a sweet fantasy
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:20 PM
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26. well, if you don't want extreme weather, that rules out most of New England
and NY.

Sorry, can't help you much beyond that.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:37 PM
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31. Look for a town with a good college...
they tend to be the more liberal areas of a state -- places like Boulder, CO and Ashland, OR.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:51 PM
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32. Ojai California...
population of around 8,000 people.



Tikki
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:57 PM
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33. Beautiful town, but VEEERRRRYYY expensive.
Los Osos is nice in the same way, but likewise pricey. I'd live there in a heartbeat if I could afford it.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:07 PM
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34. Milford, Pennsylvania
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:18 PM
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35. Homer, Alaska.
Wonderful little town in a beautiful setting.

http://www.homeralaska.org/
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:03 PM
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37. Dayton, Ohio
just my $.02
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:03 PM
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38. Charlottesville, VA
I was there for quite a while -- it's terrific.

If you want a bigger place, Asheville, NC.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:05 PM
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39. What the netherworld IS the difference between a city and a town, anyway? -nt
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:35 PM
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46. Vague distinctions, but...
According to the polling firm i used to work for,
a "large city" is 100K+
a "small city" is 50-100K
a "large town" is 15-50K
a "small town" is 1K-15K
anything smaller is a "rural area"

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:33 PM
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47. Heh. This is like the proverbial Inuit words for snow.
Here, it's all cities (cidades), as long as there's a city hall. In legalese, municipalities (municípios).
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:19 PM
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40. Flagstaff, AZ 7k feet up..NO mosquitos NO ticks Fresh air.. Liberal college oasis.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:20 PM
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41. we should all move there and take over
wouldn't that be cool?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:22 PM
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42. Brattleboro VT is Very Cool
But it's a small city, really.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:01 PM
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48. Californny is the place you oughtta be!
Grass Valley/Nevada City. Very progressive. Even the rednecks are fairly hip. Wonderful arts community. The best community radio station in the country www.kvmr.org. Beautiful rivers. Close to Tahoe (the drive is along the Yuba River). In the pines, no pollution, anti-development. Nevada City even has a NO CHAIN STORE policy. Only a couple of snow days a year. Street fairs in the summer. Rootstock. The surrounding area and towns are very unique too. North San Juan is a hippie haven.

Not nearly as expensive as Sacramento and environs or the Bay Area...
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:57 PM
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54. Just thinking today that I've got to get myself to a place where there are no chain stores. I was
sitting in a Starbucks (dislike it but it's convenient and I have few other options) looking up at cookie-cutter condos thinking how...draining...life-sucking...narrowing...some areas of Orange County are.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:39 PM
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55. The Coffee shop in Nevada City is...
Cafe Mekka. Funky as hell. Free trade organic coffee. Yumsters.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:26 PM
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51. If you're willing to come to the North East
then I highly recommend Arlington, MA or Lexington if you can afford it and like a little more rural setting.

VT is a pretty good bet too though.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:45 PM
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56. NorCal has any number of progressive small towns.
Anything in specific you're looking for?
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:40 AM
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57. I was pleased to see that someone brought up Ojai, CA.
I was going to post that myself. Not only is it beautiful, it's also an energy vortex. A group of friends and I go there several times a year (we live in L.A.). When I'm there, I totally feel uplifted.
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