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LadeJarl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:57 PM
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I don't think Kobe Bryant ....
raped that girl.

Wasn't he in for a knee-surgery? Well, imagine doing it doggy style or in the missonary the same day you had knee-surgery... Very unlikely.

I can, however, see him on his back with the girl riding him... Rape... Naahh... I just think that the girl saw some fast money coming her way..

Just my $0.02
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:58 PM
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1. Better gitcher asbestos pants on.
ow ow ow ow
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:00 PM
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2. he must a be rapist
:)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:01 PM
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3. ROFL!!!
or ANAL-retentive :D
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:03 PM
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4. You must not have much sexual experience
If you think one must bend one's knees to be the active partner in anal penetration.

As for Kobe and his accuser, I'll leave this distraction to the corporate media and court system.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:06 PM
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8. You got the priorities right.
First you get tried in the media.
If there's anything left, the courts get it.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:03 PM
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5. er, fast money?
how, exactly? who's giving her money? Why is it Kobe's interest to give her money (even if he gave her everything he has, she still can't stop the trial from going forward.)

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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:07 PM
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9. she'll get money regardless
of the outcome of the criminal trial. The burden is sooooooo much lower in a civil court after the criminal trial is over.

Kobe is rich and famous but guess what, so he's black, and there's like 4 blacks in that county. I think they'll take all the OJ anger out on him...
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:17 PM
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15. unless she's sueing for paternity
what's she going to get him for? maybe a couple of hundred grand? to have everyone in the world think you were raped? in a wealthy county (bad for juries) and a flinty state (even worse)? all that to have your name turned to mud by highly skilled people destroyers? For the rest of her life, in her home town, everyone will think of her as 'the girl Kobe raped' The burden is lower in a criminal case, but the protections on her are lower as well. It is perfectly acceptable to use the 'dirty tramp' defense in civil cases. Everything she has ever done will become public knowledge, along with her face and name. The media will not protect someone going after a civil settlement.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:23 PM
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21. a guy worth $100 mil or so rapes you
all you can get is "a couple of hundred grand". We'll see, but I doubt it.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 06:32 PM
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33. 10 Million Bucks can get someone real quiet, REAL fast.
She CAN choose to drop the charges and say it was all a HUGE mistake. she was out of her MIND you know.
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Cleve Steamer Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 07:23 PM
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38. Strictly speaking
She can't "drop the charges." Only the prosecutor can do that. Her only option would be to recant, which would obviously screw the D.A.'s case.
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SuperZippy Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:03 PM
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6. nice try...
but i don't think so.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:04 PM
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7. The knee-surgery thing bugs me to...
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 05:06 PM by LeviathanCrumbling
I had some a few years ago, If the man was incapable because of surgery then I'm sure his defence will show it. Till then the jury is out, and so am I.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:08 PM
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10. if he couldn't bend over; the case is over
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 05:10 PM by private_ryan
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:16 PM
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14. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
good one
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:18 PM
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18. If he couldn't bend over the case is over???
Once again this is simply a comment on the mechanics of anal intercourse. Your statement makes it sound like Kobe was the receiver of the penetration, as far as the rumor mill goes that has not yet been hypothesized. Second, one can anally penetrate another person without bending over.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:21 PM
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20. it was a joke
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 05:22 PM by private_ryan
not a manual on anal intercourse. sorry about the confusion.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:24 PM
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22. No confusion.. the pic of Cochran proved it.
....

well to me it did.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:35 PM
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26. I know you meant it as a joke
I was not confused in the least.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 06:33 PM
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34. IF IT DOESN'T FIT YOU MUST ACQUIT
I am SO sorry.

I had to.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:27 PM
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24. He had not had the surgery prior to the alleged rape
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 05:34 PM by roughsatori
It was scheduled for the next day.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:10 PM
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11. gee...i need some cash
i think i'll go out an accuse some superstar of rape to get it. never mind the media attention, death threats and so on...just a way to make some *easy* money.

having said that...i'll wait for all the actual trial.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:11 PM
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12. smart plan
just go to his room first when he's alone and start "fooling around".

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:13 PM
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13. my point, in case you missed it
is that there is hardly anything "easy" about it. unless of course you are prone to think of superstar atheletes as innocent lambs being pounced on by greedy, grasping women. you would never think THAT, would you?
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:17 PM
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16. listen
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 05:18 PM by private_ryan
I have been behind the scenes when the 76ers play. Even the ugliest guy http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tyrone_hill/?nav=page I have ever seen had 4 girls waiting for him. I was not love, you could tell. The superstar atheletes are as innocent lambs as the girls who go after them.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:26 PM
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23. listen...i know an athlete who raped a woman
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 05:30 PM by noiretblu
and murdered her. my point...it's as ridiculous to assign innocence to them as it is to the woman. are there women who chase after guys with money...for all kinds of reasons? sure. are there rich/famous men who rape/abuse women? sure. in this case, the trial hasn't even started yet, and no evidence has been presented...on either side. so...i don't buy the "easy money" crap. as to the specualation...it's like opinions...
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:31 PM
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25. Ryan, have you been playing with your privates for too long?
You're sounding a tad enamored with hunky male athletes. I think that Tyrone Hill is sexy.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:18 PM
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17. Not to take a position either way on his guilt or innocence
but I can quibble with your quibble about his position - ever hear of standing up while someone ELSE kneels on a bed or table?
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Cleve Steamer Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:19 PM
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19. He had the knee surgery AFTER the alleged rape
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 05:21 PM by Cleve Steamer
First, don't people read the damn news before posting anymore? I know everyone wants to be Atticus Finch, but Kobe's surgery wasn't scheduled 'til the NEXT DAY. The chronology isn't a big secret. :eyes:

Second, if he had indeed had the surgery prior to the alleged rape, don't you think the pro-Kobe elements in the media would be all over that aspect (like Kobe on a teenage girl)? In other words, do you really think you'd be the first person in the whole wide world to come up with this angle?

Sheesh.
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random Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:38 PM
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27. He's also walking just fine!
Hardly plays the part of an invalid very well. Bye Kobe, good riddance!
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LadeJarl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 05:53 PM
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28. Lighten up!
Lighten up people :)

It was just an attempt to be a bit funny and see the lighter side of a serious case.

You people are way too serious and take everything in the worst manner... Oh well..

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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 06:01 PM
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30. I'm with blondeatlast....
there are things to joke about but rape isn't one of them. :(

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LadeJarl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 06:42 PM
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35. Really?????
Where does it say in the guidelines for this forum that I need a few hundred posts before I can attempt a joke????????????

Geee... This just goes to show that some of you take everything way too serious and can't even see some ligther sides of a serious case.

And, please, enlighten me why it is bad to joke about something like this? I mean, there were about 3.4 gazillion jokes about OJ and the killings of his wife and that other guy. Why was that ok, but not about this case? Is this worse than a killing? Or is it that some of you females feel that it is not appropriate to joke about an alledged rape since the victim is also female? Would it have been OK if the victim had been a man? Why would it be ok for me to joke about it if I had a few hundred posts?

Damn, this seems to be (here I'm going to censor myself in order not to get in trouble with any of the moderators)....

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 07:02 PM
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36. First off, there is nothing funny about rape. Period.
I never laughed at an OJ joke, either.

If you are gonna start flamebaits, and then wiggle out by calling them "jokes," it ain't gonna work with me.

Just what is "funny" about your initial post? Having sat with two friends in the ER after they were raped, I guess I just missed the humor somehow . . .
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LadeJarl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 07:24 PM
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40. Shouldn't you, like me..
wait until after the trial using the word rape in a serious context?

As far as I know, he has not been convicted of a rape yet, nor has it been proved that the girl was raped.

To me it seems that some of you can't take jokes about certain areas. That is fine, but then don't go off and think that everyone should feel the same way as you do.

And yes, I can even joke about rape, just as well as any other topic. I have never understood why there are certain topics that can't be used to make jokes, but your milage may vary. If it does, and you don't like, go on, forget about it.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 07:21 PM
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37. hmmmmm.......
Where does it say in the guidelines for this forum that I need a few hundred posts before I can attempt a joke????????????

DK: It doesn't, but everybody should be on guard for "newbies"


Geee... This just goes to show that some of you take everything way too serious and can't even see some ligther sides of a serious case.

DK: Wrong, I can see many different sides of many different issues, but rape and murder aren't very funny. If people choose not to see the "humour" in a situation, then so be it. They don't have to change to please you or anybody.

And, please, enlighten me why it is bad to joke about something like this? I mean, there were about 3.4 gazillion jokes about OJ and the killings of his wife and that other guy. Why was that ok, but not about this case?

DK: Who said it WAS ok? Maybe it was for some people, not for others.


Is this worse than a killing?

DK: Well a killing is no doubt worse than rape, but they are both horrible crimes against innocent persons.

Or is it that some of you females feel that it is not appropriate to joke about an alledged rape since the victim is also female?

DK: You females must think one way cause you are girls....right. okay.


Would it have been OK if the victim had been a man? Why would it be ok for me to joke about it if I had a few hundred posts?

DK: Why do you presume things? Do you WISH there had been a few posts about male victims? Like to see us joke about victims of crime here? Don't think so.


Damn, this seems to be (here I'm going to censor myself in order not to get in trouble with any of the moderators)....

DK: Again, you seem to want to cause a reaction....hmmmm.......trust me, you don't want to see this feminist really let loose... :nuke:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 07:24 PM
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39. DK, if this doesn't get his attention . . .
I'm gonna PM

SKITTLES!
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 06:06 PM
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31. Why am I not surprised
that you would manage to find the lighter side of an alleged rape case? :eyes:
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BushHasGotToGo Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 06:07 PM
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32. The DNA evidence is there to indicate anal sex
And he is a prfessional ball player.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 08:16 PM
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41. have you ever been with a guy who wanted sex?
it wouldn't matter if he had NO KNEES.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:06 PM
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43. AAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNN!
Look out, Skittles and NSMA are on the scene . . .
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 08:22 PM
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42. I think she raped him.
I'm gonna go rape him now...I've got a car payment to make :eyes:
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:45 PM
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44. I'm locking this thead.
If we're going to discuss Kobe, let's try to at least make an effort to act a little more sensitive. Rape is a serious issue.

Skinner
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