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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:15 PM
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Well, looks like it's over for my best friend's cokehead brother - support wise.
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 05:23 PM by HEyHEY
My best friend's little brother is 26. He just finished his second stint in rehab. This time it was a very expensive facility in Northern California. It was six months and we all figured that would help him. But no, I talked to my friend last night and it turns out he has gone into his old ways again... just like that. So, he caused some kind of scene the other night and his parents called the cops and such.
I think they've kicked him out now. They've spent thousands of dollars and spent six years trying to help this kid. And he seems completely unable to do it. And when it is at a point where their safety is threatened you can't blame them. This kid had everything too. Good family, friends and a multi-million dollar family business to run with his brother if he wanted it.

We all cared about him so much. But there just comes a breaking point. Years ago I offered to take him in when I was living out of town to get him away from the life. I'd never make the offer again - it's just futile to try.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:22 PM
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1. It's very sad.
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 05:22 PM by Maddy McCall
I know this is silly, but I watch "Intervention" on TV, and it appears that, with some addicts, the only thing that works is telling them that if they don't get it together, they'll lose ever bit of emotional, financial support provided by the family.

I hope that maybe this will startle your friend's brother into committing to sobriety in the very near future.

Edit to add: I've got a family member with addiction problems....every rock-bottom we've hit was evidently not low enough...so I certainly empathize with you and this guy's family.

:(
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:23 PM
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2. Sometimes it's hard to hit bottom when you've got too much support.
My brother had the same thing; multiple rehabs, lots of loving family, etc. He was fortunate though, in that he found his "bottom" on his own and pulled out. Just got his 25yr chip. You shouldn't give up on your friend, just don't let him manipulate you. Good luck to you all.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:23 PM
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3. Some people just can't be helped and are destined to die alone, in a gutter...
with a bullet in their back.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:26 PM
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4. Well, I don't think that will happen
But the death thing will probably happen. this kid is a train wreck.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:29 PM
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5. My uncle was the same way. Lots of potential. Wonderful guy.
All the opportunity in the world. He started doing drugs, fell in with the wrong group of people, and ended up with his brains blown out.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:14 PM
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12. You make that sound like a bad thing
some days, I am not so sure
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:00 PM
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16. What, you mean that's a good way to go?
Or a good way to remove a career miscreant from society?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:37 PM
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19. ah, you gotta go anyway
what's the difference
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:39 PM
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20. The only people worthy of compassion are those with a life-ending illness.
You are unbelievable.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:48 PM
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23. What? I was asking for clarification of the poster's remark.
Not saying I agreed with it.
I didn't say that this person is not worthy of compassion. I've had a lot of drug addiction in my family...my brother, my dad, my uncle. My brother and dad got clean and lived, my uncle didn't and ended up dead.
Those are his choices.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:22 PM
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14. I"ve seen a lot of people go that way
This has always been one of my favorite Hoyt Axton/Steppenwolf songs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QKraf_V0ZPc
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:32 PM
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6. mmmmmm coke
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 05:32 PM by JVS
shit happens, y'know
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:33 PM
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7. how're things over there with the crumpet munchers?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:41 PM
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9. Crumpet? Where is my crumpet? They keep giving me gateau twice a day but no crumpet
And dude, when you get the gateau, make sure to say yes when they offer to pour cream on it.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:37 PM
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8. Some people can't be forced to accept help.
They either reach that point on their own... or they don't.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:55 PM
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10. He apparently hasn't reached a point in which the negative outweighs the positive
Best thing that can happen to him is to get kicked out and lose that support

Sounds harsh?

No, it's the most loving thing they can do. Paying his way out in any way just enables his problems and gives him the opportunity to do it again.

Some people have to go a long way down before they hit a bottom and make a choice to do something different. Raising the bottom in any way possible is necessary if people want to help.

If he spends some time on the street he will either decide he wants help for real, or he may die from his disease, but at least he's not being enabled to die.

Sorry that you and your friend and family are dealing with this, it is unfortunately the way of life it seems for many, many people, to have someone in their lives who is addicted to alcohol or other drugs.

:pals:
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:09 PM
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11. When I read stories like this
I just have to wonder why our governments have such an aversion to psychoactive substances. There is such a substance out there that can interrupt addiction to opiates and possibly other substances, including nicotine. It's called ibogaine and could revolutionize the treatment of addicts. But, you end up on a "trip" for three days, under the constant help of a clinician or other medical professional. They continue to do the psychological treatment after, but it's really the drug that has started the recovery. Read about it and maybe your friend's family will look into it :)
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:21 PM
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13. Been going through this for almost nine years
with my ex's brother. The sorry crackhead has been in and out of rehab more times than I can remember.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:16 AM
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15. The shame is I can "get it" with someone who's had a bad life
But this kid has no excuse
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:13 PM
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18. It doesn't matter. Addiction is addiction.
And some people are more prone to be addicted. The sad thing is that he has the opportunity to really help himself and just can't seem to.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:10 PM
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17. Such a sad situation.
It takes a lot for someone like that to ever really get help. Rock bottom isn't always the bottom. Hopefully something major will happen that will help to change his life for the better. It is so hard on the family. Sorry.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:49 PM
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21. I don't think a lot of us can understand the power of an addiction like that.
Yikes... So sad.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:28 PM
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22. I wish my folks had done this with my brother.
He's been vacillating between abuse of various controlled substances and precarious sobriety for about 20 years now. Several trips to rehab, none of them effective in the long term. My mom wouldn't throw him out for fear that he'd die under some bridge somewhere. Now he's 34 and living with my folks, who really can't afford to "keep" him. I think he would have had a better chance if he'd gotten cut off at some point.

Not that I want my little brother dead under a bridge, but my mother has spent his entire teenage and adult life propping up his various addictions for fear of losing him. It's been hell on the family. It would have been hard for mom to let him go, but I think it would have been better for both her and my dad (I washed my hands of the whole situation years ago).
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