Bat-dorks: Who should the villain be for the third Batman movie?

I'm taking the Joker, Two-Face, and Ra's Al-Ghul out of the running. I'm also leaving out the Penguin, since Nolan seemingly does not want to use him at all.

SECOND STORY
"The Six Strangest Sleuths"
Credits:
Editor: Jack Schiff
Plotter,scripter: Edmond Hamilton
Penciller: Sheldon Moldoff
Inker: Charles Paris
Letterer:
Feature Characters
Batman and Robin
Supporting Character
Commissioner Gordon (next appearance in Detective Comics #234)
Villains
Jay Jandron, Vern Shively and other crooks (first and only appearance for all to date)
Other Characters
Victor Voice, Scortini and his assistant, Leo the Mighty, The India Rubberman, Carey, and Forbes (first and only appearance to date)
Citizens and police of Gotham City

Synopsis
Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson attend a benefit show for the Vaudeville Relief Fund, featuring some of vaudeville's biggest stars. But the magic show of Scortini is used, unintended by the magician, as a disruption during which crooks rob the box office.
The thieves escape even though Batman and Robin appear, and the money is divided up amoung the minions of gangster Jay Jandron.
To get the money back, the six vaudevillians--Scortini, quick-changeman Elmo, strongman Leo the Mighty, tightrope walker Carey,
ventriloquist Victor Voice, and the India Rubberman, all go to work as Batman's and Robin's assistants. They use their talents in various helpful ways, for instance, when Leo grabs the bumper of a suspects car and lifts it off the ground to prevent him from taking off-- and track down one of the crooks, Vern Shively, stringing a mike with a mike with the aid of rubberman and having the tighrope walker keep a watch outside his third story window. Shively is shadowed and, after he leads them to others in the gang, is nabbed by Leo and replaced by Forbes the quick-change man. Forbes is found out, but Batman deduces their foes' destination, a moored yacht which Leo begins hauling in, a handful at a time.
The heroes and their vaudville allies storm the boat, overwhelm Jandron and his gang, and nab him and his croines in various inventive ways (such as when the rubberman jumps out of a connecting tube to grab Jandron). The money is recovered, and Batman gives the credit for the caper to his six strange sleuths.

:D (' cause he has my last name)

I met one as I was hunting an elephant in my Pajamas (How he got in them I'll never know)
He told me to take his wife..Please and that his apartment was so small the mice were hunchbacked.
It was very confusing .

Only remember seeing him in one Batman Detective comic, but I remember it as a good story that made more use of Batman's deductive and sleuthing skills. Still plenty of action to go around.

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Should've seen that one coming. Wrong Django, though. :hi:

After all, it takes two to Django.

For all you old timers.

bring extra star quality to the flick.

Catwoman is good, but Halle already ruined that one.

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Hell, I could be wrong.

He actually could be decent under Nolan's darker direction.

he's always been pretty corny.

mindscrew. I don't think I saw that one, but he immediately jumped into my head when I read "Riddler". He'd be dark, though, like Ledger's Joker.

I'm hoping for someone a little less silly next time around.

Before you say anything, yes, Robin Willams can be dark. Remember him as that creepy photo developer?

Go down tempo. Make the Riddler less a clown and more a psychological genius mind.

Toss out the riddles and gimmicks and give us deep psychodrama. Make Batman use his mind, not to create new gadgets, but to dig into the criminal subconscious.

with Talia and Pop (Lazarus pool storyline will obviate the Batman Begins end)
Clayface is the best of both Sandman and Mystique from the Marvel Universe....

and they can be as creative as they want-- Penguin, Riddler, Freeze, Ivy, Catwoman, Two face, Scarecrow, Joker--they've all been done--

Arkham has some great one's, but hopefully they'll go with Clayface should a third one be done.

Annette Bening was supposed to do it in the earlier movies, but got herself good and pregnant so Michelle Pfeiffer got the part - and she was just "meh" in it.

It'd have to be somebody really spectacular, though - not just Halle Berry in a body suit. Cate Blanchett could do a good job.

Angelina Jolie would make a very sexy Catwoman. If that's what you're looking for.

I loved what they did with his character in the 90s Batman cartoon. And when they brought him back for an episode of Batman Beyond... that was a powerful episode. Probably my favorate from that entire show.

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using Batman's diaries, so there's room to play around a bit with the story telling.


Geez, gullible people vex me.

That was also a documentary.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn't a documentary, it was a Christian allegory.

Mister Reese = mysteries. He's also a distgruntled Wayne employee just like the Schumacher Riddler

I totally missed that one!

Of course, it was implied that they'd come to a sort of understanding after Wayne totalled the Lamborghini. And The Riddler's name is Edward Nigma, rather than Mister Reese.


Still, that was a fine observation! :applause:

I thought Bruce's look was "I KNOW you know, keep your trap shut, fucker, I saved your life." I'd be fine if Nolan changed the Riddler's name to Mister Reese and used that unknown actor to play him. He doesn't have to have a big onscreen part, but always have batman on his toes.

He only had enough time to just get started with his misdeeds in The Dark Knight.

Now they can sit around for months trying to figure out if putting Two-Face in the next movie is a good idea.

Christopher Nolan's stated that the Penguin would be difficult to do realistically. Whoever it is has a tough act to follow with the Joker.

Joker is a possible as well...

But, who can follow-up Ledger's joker?

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You're omitting the many serials from the 40's and 50's.

He said he'd like to play the Riddler. It'd work.

I think the accent would really work, too.

Hall is in TDK, so maybe his character could morph into the Riddler. Although he didn't look to hot when last we saw him in Gotham.

Try and keep in the right universe, hmm?

He shits lemon-scented bricks at your attempt to keep the 'verses separate.

And Etrigan will kick Dormammu's ass.


Incidentally, I think I'm going to start insulting people by calling them "Ditko." Not that there's anything wrong with Steve, but the name just has a such a fine ring to it that it mustn't be overlooked.

but someone else will be the big nasty villain (Hush or Black Mask?) until Batman deals with him/her and can finally take care of Riddler.

or anyone else that's already been done. Ledger's Joker just kicked the shit out of Nicholson's Joker, and that name deserves to be retired.

but what with the state of 3rd movies these days, I'd be also content with Batman with Bale/Nolan ending strong.

So it's almost a certainty.

If so, okay. I just hope it doesn't suffer the Spiderman, Superman, etc problem

The man with no heart.

Fantastic villain. Might require too much of a backstory, though.

What makes him so great?

You could have him, The Riddler in it (since they said they were thinking of using him anyway), Catwoman, and you they can even bring Harvey back.

or maybe both... Catwoman is another that doesn't have any real superpowers, other than looking hot in tight leather.

Joker is still alive,and he did make a comment about how they (Batman & Joker) will be battling forever, or something like that.