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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:27 AM
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WALL•E (spoilers)
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 04:35 AM by Peake
:loveya::loveya::loveya:

Saw it today and what a work of genius. To get us to swallow such an immensely black dystopian message and to then present personal empowerment and responsibility without being preachy or cheesy- pure genius. There were so many places where lesser storytellers would have gone horribly wrong, such as Disney's inability to resist zany-ness, and they handled them all so very well- and I didn't feel too offended at all by the "we may have lost our hero" tugs at the heartstrings.

I especially enjoyed how the passing mechs caused all of the babies to cry. I wonder if that was a direct message. I guess that it can true- technology IS enslavement. I'm going to become a Luddite at some point...

Pixar is truly a gift. What a gift. Thank you!

Edit: Loved the Warner Brother's style opening short, "Presto!"

And was struck at how similar the interior of the Axiom was to the Universal City "Citywalk" where I went to see it...
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:44 AM
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1. It was a great example of story telling
in movie form. I saw it several weeks ago and I agree, it was a wonderful film.

Believe it or not if you want to read a novel with similar theme (right down to robots who have a fascination with old human forms of art, like WALL-E's love of "Hello Dolly") give the Ilium/Olympos douology by Dan Simmons a try.

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:38 PM
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2. Thanks, I've read those...
And I believe that there is a tip of the hat to "Alien" in WALL•E at one point, in the soundtrack- alternating flute intervals, back and forth. Adding to Sigourney Weaver as the voice of a computer :)
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:08 PM
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7. Great recommendation! I also heartily recommend...
...Simmons' "Hyperion Cantos" books (Hyperion, The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion, The Rise of Endymion). Simmons love of the classics is evident, particularly in the way the superhuman Farcaster AIs create a simulacra of John Keats. Beautiful books.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:51 PM
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9. Four of my MOST favorite books.
I just started Illium, btw. If you miss the Hyperion/Endymion universe, Simmons wrote a short story set there in his collection Worlds Enough and Time. Good stuff.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:53 PM
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3. Totally agree - an incredibly bleak movie, and yet not at all preachy or obnoxious about it.
Brilliant.

Absolutely brilliant movie.

I hope it goes in time as one of the 100 best movies ever made.

The story telling is perfect, the animation is beyond excellent and oft extraordinarily original and daring, the acting is first rate. And I mean that very seriously - all the various ways of saying "Wall-E" were examples of pure artistic thespianism, and the Wall-E noises were sublime.

An absolutely stellar movie. It was like being around for the first showing of Citizen Kane or Lawrence of Arabia or Alien - one knows that one has just seen history-making artistry.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:51 PM
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4. *points to avatar and sigline*
now, perhaps, you know why.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:58 PM
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5. If I may be bold, because it's Pixar, we "knew" before it ever came out
:toast: and kudos for using them! I want to make an avatar image from the end credits, of the plant in the shoe.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:03 PM
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6. pixar has yet to make a truly 'bad' movie.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:48 PM
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8. One kick for the magnificence that is Pixar.
:loveya:
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