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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:57 PM
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Jean Shepherd
Back when I was in the Army, (63-66), I was stationed at missile bases in PA and then NJ. Both areas were within the broadcast range of WOR from NYC. I used to smuggle my transistor radio to the Guard Shack when on guard duty and listen to the radio to pass the time in a very boring job. There I discovered Jean Shepherd. He told stories from his youth long before he became a writer for Playboy (I occasionally read the articles) and before he wrote the movie A Christmas Story, but you can get an idea of his style from that movie.

I found him fascinating, to say the least. Years later I got a bit nostalgic and started to Google up his name. Lo and behold, others found him as fascinating as I did and they saved many, if not all his broadcasts! His work is now being rebroadcast on WBAI from NYC, and if anyone is the least bit interested, heres the URL: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.asp

You can stream one of his broadcasts on Real Player and decide if you like him. If you do, you can even make your own recordings from the menu provided. It slowly changes over time, adding one and dropping one weekly.

Oddly enough, I have yet to hear a single program that I remember, but that was over 40 years ago.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:39 PM
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1. I want to find a dvd of the PBS special he did...
It was a 4th of July special, and as enjoyable to me as the screenplays for Christmas Story and Ollie Hopnoodle's Haven of Bliss.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:11 PM
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5. Keep watching that link. They'll sometimes play other stuff.
You might get lucky.
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:08 PM
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36. Me too
I always thought the 4th of July movie was even better than the Christmas Story.

I also remember his saying " Beer is the mother of us all"
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:53 PM
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2. HEY stranger....
:hi: :hug: :loveya:

....I'm bookmarking this for later! A Christmas Story is one of the best movies of all time!! :thumbsup:
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:13 PM
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6. Hey friend! I hope you enjoy listening when you get around to it.
He had a fertile imagination.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:22 PM
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9. I'm sure I will...
....hope you're doin' well these days...I sent you an email just last night to yahoo btw! :)
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:50 PM
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12. Doin' pretty well for an old guy. Still gettin' older. I guess that's a
good sign.

Got your email. It was a joke, IIRC, and didn't require a response.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:00 PM
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13. Definitely a good sign...
....better off up there where it's cooler too...it's been oppressive here...gettin' a break from the heat for the next few days they say...remains to be seen if they get it right though! ;-)
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 04:41 AM
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19. I hope they got it right, but they seldom do. If they did, enjoy.
Up here, it's almost liveable -- most of the time. At other times, it's a bit like Louisiana, but without most of the the humidity. Have I mentioned that I DO NOT miss Louisiana?

IF the self-righteous assholes up here would vote to make my county "wet" instead of "dry" I wouldn't need to drive so far to refill my liquor cabinet.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:26 AM
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21. LOL...well it is raining this a.m....so they're close so far....
;-)

...hell they voted to sell on Sunday's in Monroe...never thought it'd pass but it did...guess they were just jealous of Richwood makin' a killin' on Sunday's and had to follow suit...and WM probably will too eventually!! :D
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:56 AM
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23. Astounding! The city with the steeple fetish voting to sell booze on
SUNDAY! I cannot believe it. Enjoy!

We're not quite that enlightened up here yet. I have to drive quite a distance to buy stuff and then all they way to Missouri, if I run out on a Sunday.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:31 AM
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25. Guess those Holy Rollers like to toss a few back themselves on the *Lords Day*...
...I DARESAY! :evilgrin:
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:50 AM
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26. Always figured them to be a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:15 PM
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34. You figured correctly....
:D
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:00 PM
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3. I once happened upon an m3u file that let me listen to the whole collection of archives, but it...
seems that the database that it connected to is no longer online. Last summer I could leave the laptop running and it would randomly pick shows. I downloaded a couple dozen mp3s. These are the shows in the original format without the "Mass backwards" stuff added. If they didn't replace the computer at work, they should still be there. Let me know if you're interested
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:17 PM
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7. The link I posted is to the original format shows, commercials and all.
I like to listen in frequently and use my Real One player, but I doubt that I'd have need of a lengthy set of his shows. I do not even record these, even though I have that option.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:03 PM
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4. Jean Sheppard was great... still is great
amazing stuff. WBAI plays his stuff a lot. I think you can stream it wbai.org
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:20 PM
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8. The link I posted is for the WBAI streams. Shep was a genius!
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:24 PM
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10. Wasn't it WOR that also had John Gambling in the morning?
"Rambling with Gambling" I always loved march around the breakfast table. I think my mom used it to get us motivated for going to school.

I remember the Bomark missle base on rt 539. Jersey shore bound.

You might also enjoy this http://www.weirdnj.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=88&Itemid=28
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:43 PM
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11. Yes, and I listened to Gambling as well. I was a part of the
Philadelphia Air Defense Command. My NJ base was located at Lumberton and it was a Nike-Hercules Site.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:06 PM
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14. I live in upstate ny now but Jersey is where I grew up
It's still my home base. Lumberton was east of Philadelphia as I recall.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:29 PM
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17. Yes, Lumberton is east of Philly. I lived in Mt Holly. I loved going to
Cherry Hill and Moorestown Malls.

I got my first 35m SLR camera at the Cherry Hill Mall.

Gosh, memories flood back! Mt. Holly was a delightful town.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:17 PM
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15. In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash
Jean Shepherd stories in book form are just as funny. Besides "In God We Trust" there is "Wanda Hickey's Night Of Golden Memories", both collections of short stories. Still available on Amazon they are a great read. I never missed a night listening. You should remember Long John Nebel too!
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:23 PM
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16. I listened to Long John Nebel. I even met him once. I knew The Amazing Randi
and went to Peru with him on an expedition. When we returned, he introduced the two of us.

Long John was a lot nicer guy in person than on the radio where I thought he could be rather brash -- except when someone called in and threatened suicide.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:07 AM
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22. Yes they are.
I first read IGWT a brazillion years ago, sitting outside a book store in San Bernie CA. I was :rofl: because the description of The Old Man's battles with the coal burning basement monster exactly matched some of my own father's go arounds.

If you're a Mid-west first wave baby boomer, Shepherd's books are a must read.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 04:22 AM
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18. Shameless kick, for once.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:58 AM
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20. I discovered him in Playboy, back in the day, too. Fantastic storyteller.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:55 AM
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28. Oh my goodness YES! Kept me spellbound nightly.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:15 AM
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24. I was always late for school in the 50's and 60's because...
I'd be addicted to Shepherd at 10 or 11 PM and then Long John came on with The Way Out World till the wee hours.

Oh, and I just added "A Christmas Story" to my Netflix queue

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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:52 AM
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27. Sounds like my own mis-spent youth.
I remember how angry I was when the Long John show was dropped and replaced by some young upstart named....Larry King!
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:01 PM
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30. I was really distressed when I learned that Long John had died.
I suppose we all gotta go eventually, but he was a legend to many.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:59 AM
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29. Fortunately, my later years in the Army were 24 on and 48 off.
I could listen whenever I wished, and I DID!
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 01:17 PM
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31. Similar story
I lived in northern New Jersey in the 1960s and had a friend whose parents listened to Jean Shepherd on WOR all the time. Luci was their youngest child and with the 2 other kids were much older, she got to do things that were probably not age appropriate, like going to the Limelight in the Village to see a Jean Shepherd performance. Luci turned me on to Shepherd when we were in 6th grade and I'd listen to his WOR radio programs at night with my transistor radio tuned way low. I begged my mother for his book In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash for Christmas. One day when were were in 7th or 8th grade, we heard an announcement on the program that Shepherd was doing a performance at Fairleigh Dickinson University in Teaneck, a local college. So a couple of us got our parents' approval (and money for tickets), got my mom to drive us over and pick us up and attended. It was great - one of his lines about Hackensack, both the river the college campus was on and the city of the same name right across it - made us howl. "Hackensack, Hackensack - it sounds like an old Indian upchucking." Thanks for a good memory and a cool link.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 01:28 PM
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33. I am constantly amazed at the Shepherd fans I have found here
and elsewhere with whom I have shared this information. I didn't think I was alone in my admiration of his talent, but it seems that I was among the vast majority.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:39 PM
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44. Hey, I'm from Teaneck!
and, if you think Hackensack is funny, how about Ho-Ho-Kus?
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:38 PM
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48. Ho- ho-kus
always made me laugh. I lived in Cresskill, with the Tenakill Brook flowing through town, and surrounded by Tenafly, Demerest, Dumont and Alpine. And of course there was always Paramus and the Oritani Indians.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:25 PM
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51. Cresskill is a nice town.
We used to go to to a Chinese restaurant there when I was a kid- I think it was called the China Chalet
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 01:25 PM
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32. That's great, thank you so much for the link!
Long, LONGtime fan of Jean Shepherd...

Redstone
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:24 PM
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38. You are very welcome! Glad to meet another fan.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:23 PM
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35. RIP, Jean -- an American treasure.
If you listen to Keith Olbermann, you'll hear echoes of Jean Shepherd in the writing and in the delivery. Shep was obviously a big influence on him.

Shepherd was a genius at capturing the American culture in words. Like Garrison Keillor and Mark Twain.

My hero.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:32 PM
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40. I was really saddened when I learned the news of Shepherd's death.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:55 PM
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37. I still think there is a TV series here.
Something similar to what Steven Spielberg did with "Amazing Stories". Using the many, many Jean Shepherd stories and his broadcasts as voice-over narration. Are you listening Mr. Spielberg??:-)
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:35 PM
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41. I would LOVE to see some of his Army adventures in a show like that.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:29 PM
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39. back in the 70s he had a show on public television called.....
"jean shepard's america"
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:37 PM
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43. I must have missed it. DRAT!
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:41 PM
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45. here......
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:12 PM
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46. Thank you!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 03:48 AM
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52. Which included an episode titled "Phantom of the Open Hearth"...
...which had about half the storyline from "A Christmas Story" (including the leg lamp and the guy who ordered a kit house from Sears), except a) this was done before the movie and b) it was done better.

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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:36 PM
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42. My dad was a huge fan
and also of Long John Nebel. I'll have to check out their work and see what they were all about- good way to get to know my dear departed daddy a little better.

BTW, he also tuned in "Rambling with Gambling" every morning.

As long as we're being nostalgic, anyone of a certain age from the NYC area remember "The Make-Believe Ballroom" with William B. Williams? Another part of the soundtrack of my childhood.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:15 PM
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47. Make-Believe Ballroom was on for many years.
It's Make-Believe Ballroom time
The hour of sweet romance
Here's your Make-Believe Ballroom
Come on children, lets dance.

The theme was sung by The Modernaires with the Glenn Miller band. The original host was Martin Block in the 30s and 40s. Here in NYC it was on WNEW radio. William B. took over in the 50s with his famous opening,"Hello world."
Great memories.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:23 PM
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50. Yep, it went on into the 80s
The receptionist in my office used to have it on in '83.

Didn't Williams die suddenly?

I loved that show. I don't know where to hear that music on the radio anymore, except for Jonathan Schwartz's weekend shows on WNYC.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:59 PM
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49. Shep was/is a genius. WBAI rocks for playing those shows.
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