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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:26 PM
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Why isn't curling in the summer olympics?
They could have summer curling on a shuffleboard like court, or something. Curling rules.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:30 PM
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1. Probably because there are no sweepers in shuffleboard
The sweepers are pretty important and really, who doesn't like to see men holding brooms screaming at each other?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:31 PM
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2. Maybe they could do it on glass with sand on it.
:)
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:33 PM
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3. Only if they have a women's curling team wearing bikinis!
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:57 AM
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15. You're a frickin genius!
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:41 PM
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6. Why is basketball a summer Olympic sport?
It's not like they're playing outside. College basketball runs from December to March.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:29 AM
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18. It won't mess with the NBA schedule.
Money rules.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:16 PM
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20. Maybe we should move Ice Hockey to the summer games
for the same reason.

It's not like they're playing outside on ponds.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:31 PM
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22. I bet it's been discussed
and if baseball could get moved to the winter games, we'd see a lot more pros.

If baseball was going to continue as an olympic sport.

Curling can remain where it is.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:59 AM
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14. Good point. n/t
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:34 PM
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4. Hey, good point. There are already plastic surfaces for people to "ice" skate on in
warm weather, after all.

And I, for one, would welcome ANY opportunity to see more curling.

Redstone
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:41 PM
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5. It is hypnotizing.
And downright addicting.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:51 PM
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7. I remember when I was a kid in the 1950s in northern Vermont, we could sometimes get
a TV station from Quebec, and they actually had curling matches on, during the day, on Saturday or Sunday.

Not the Olympics. Just watching curling for the hell of it.

Redstone
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:56 PM
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10. We used to watch it on a station from Lethbridge.


I've always enjoyed it.

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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:52 PM
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8. I love curling...
a sport that doesn't make me feel woefully inadequate :)
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:53 PM
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9. D;uh. The swimmers would all drown when the ice melted.
:eyes:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:58 PM
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11. You fool. That's why they send the rocket up at night.
Oh, wait--wrong joke. Oops!
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:06 PM
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12. As an honorary Scotsman and proud Brit...
... I say YES! Only because it gives a good chance for Great Britain to pick up a medal...

Mark.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:57 AM
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13. Bowls! We need bowls in the Olympics - they're in the Commonweatlh Games
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowls

And curling is just an imitation of bowls anyway.

The History of Lawn Bowling

Bowls historians believe that the game developed from the Egyptians. One of their pastimes was to play skittles with round stones. This has been determined based on artifacts found in tombs dating circa 5,000 B.C. The sport spread across the world and took a variety of forms, Bocce (Italian), Bolla (Saxon), Bolle (Danish), Boules (French) and Ula Miaka (Polynesian). The sport of lawn bowls is the forerunner of curling, a tremendously popular winter version played in northern countries (including Canada) on ice.

The oldest lawn bowls site still played on is in Southampton, England. Records show that the green has been in operation since 1299 A.D. There are other claims of greens being in use before that time, but these are unsubstantiated by proper or sufficient documentation. During the reign of Richard II bowls were referred to as "gettre de pere" or "jetter de pierre," and describes throwing a stone, probably as round as possible. In the early 15th century bowls were made of hardwoods and, after the 16th century discovery of Santo Domingo, of lignum vitae, a very dense wood.

It's believed that the "bias" was introduced inadvertently in 1522 by the Duke of Suffolk. Apparently his bowl split in two after striking other bowls and he took a knob off of a stairway banister post for a replacement. The flat side of the knob caused it to roll with a bias and he experimented by curving his bowl around others. The word spread and bias bowls gradually came into use.

Certainly the most famous story in lawn bowls is about Sir Francis Drake and the Spanish Armada. On July 19, 1588, Drake was involved in a game at Plymouth when he was notified that the Spanish Armada had been sighted. The tale says his response was, "There is plenty of time to win the game and thrash the Spaniards too." He then proceeded to finish his match and the British Navy soundly defeated the Armada. There is a lot of controversy as to whether this event actually took place.

http://www.valebowlingclub.co.uk/bowling_history.htm


Scots and continental Europeans have engaged in many a lively dispute as to the true origin of curling. Both claim to be founders. Did Scots invent the game, or was it imported by Flemish sportsmen who emigrated to Scotland during the reign of James VI (James I of England)? Did Europeans engage in some early form of curling, and did Scots merely adopt and enhance it? The evidence, based on works of art, contemporary writings, and archaeological finds, has sparked a number of theories, but nothing is conclusive.

Some of the earliest graphic records of a game similar to curling date from 1565. Two oil paintings by the Dutch master Pieter Bruegel, entitled "Winter Landscape with Skaters and a Birdtrap" and "Hunters in the Snow", show eisschiessen or "ice shooting", a Bavarian game played with a long stick-like handle, that is still enjoyed today. Another work, an engraving by R. de Baudous (1575 - 1644) after N. van Wieringen, entitled "Hyems" or "Winter", shows players who appear to be sliding large discs of wood along a frozen water-way. Other sketches from around the same time show a Dutch game called kuting, played with frozen lumps of earth.

The first hand-written record of what could be called an early curling game dates from February, 1540, when John McQuhin of Scotland noted down, in Latin, a challenge to a game on ice between a monk named John Sclater and an associate, Gavin Hamilton.

The first printed reference to curling appears in a 17th century elegy published by Henry Adamson, following the death of a close friend: His name was M. James Gall, a citizen of Perth, and a gentle-man of goodly stature, and pregnant wit, much given to pastime, as golf, archerie, curling and jovial companie. It seems too that the game tempted many people from all walks of life. Records from a Glasgow Assembly of Presbyterians in 1638 accused a certain Bishop Graham of Orkney of a terrible act: He was a curler on the ice on the Sabbath..

http://icing.org/game/history/historya.htm


See? Curling is a johnny-come-lately, as a game. Bowls has tradition.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:03 AM
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16. proper question: why IS curling even an olympic sport?
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:20 AM
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17. I don't know, but I had a strange attraction to the Canadian woman's curling team. nt
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:43 AM
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19. You weren't the only one
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:20 PM
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21. Now imagine them wearing the same outfits as the beach volleyball teams.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:18 PM
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23. Curling is fantastic...
But it is done on ice. :shrug:
But here's something for your viewing pleasure:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:45 PM
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24. That is cute.
:)
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