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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 07:45 PM
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Ezra Pound: Traitor? Lunatic? Great poet? Chief catalyst for 20th century English lang literature?
All the above?

Discuss.

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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 07:48 PM
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1. All of the above.
Well, maybe not "chief catalyst for 20th century English lang literature," but quite possibly chief catalyst for 20th century English lang poetry.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:08 PM
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2. Traitor. Great poet. No Joyce.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 08:31 PM
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3. kind of an asshole
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:33 PM
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4. Here's an interesting youtube video of Pound reciting
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 12:36 PM by brentspeak
one of his best poems, "Sestina: Altaforte", plus some documentary images (accompanied by Pound's words spoken by someone who sounds nothing like the actual Pound):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka7e25lf5-k

Sestina: Altaforte

LOQUITUR: En Bertrans de Born.
Dante Alighieri put this man in hell for that he was a stirrer up of strife.
Eccovi!
Judge ye!
Have I dug him up again?
The scene is at his castle, Altaforte. "Papiols" is his jongleur. "The Leopard," the device of Richard Coeur de Lion.


I

Damn it all! all this our South stinks peace.
You whoreson dog, Papiols, come! Let's to music!
I have no life save when the swords clash.
But ah! when I see the standards gold, vair, purple, opposing
And the broad fields beneath them turn crimson,
Then howls my heart nigh mad with rejoicing.

II

In hot summer have I great rejoicing
When the tempests kill the earth's foul peace,
And the lightnings from black heav'n flash crimson,
And the fierce thunders roar me their music
And the winds shriek through the clouds mad, opposing,
And through all the riven skies God's swords clash.

III

Hell grant soon we hear again the swords clash!
And the shrill neighs of destriers in battle rejoicing,
Spiked breast to spiked breast opposing!
Better one hour's stour than a year's peace
With fat boards, bawds, wine and frail music!
Bah! there's no wine like the blood's crimson!

IV

And I love to see the sun rise blood-crimson.
And I watch his spears through the dark clash
And it fills all my heart with rejoicing
And pries wide my mouth with fast music
When I see him so scorn and defy peace,
His lone might 'gainst all darkness opposing.

V

The man who fears war and squats opposing
My words for stour, hath no blood of crimson
But is fit only to rot in womanish peace
Far from where worth's won and the swords clash
For the death of such sluts I go rejoicing;
Yea, I fill all the air with my music.

VI

Papiols, Papiols, to the music!
There's no sound like to swords swords opposing,
No cry like the battle's rejoicing
When our elbows and swords drip the crimson
And our charges 'gainst "The Leopard's" rush clash.
May God damn for ever all who cry "Peace!"

VII

And let the music of the swords make them crimson!
Hell grant soon we hear again the swords clash!
Hell blot black for always the thought "Peace!"

-- Ezra Pound

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:38 PM
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5. Isn't he the guy who invented pound cake?
If so, I just love him. :loveya:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 12:39 PM
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6. Look, all I know is that I used him once to shore up a table leg to keep it from wobbling,
and within days, my house stunk of rotting flesh.

I don't know what that means about Pound's patriotism or artistic quality, but I wanted to offer it up into the conversation.

Just sayin'.
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