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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:26 PM
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Poll question: "Bawling"
Just another word for crying? Or pejorative?
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:28 PM
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1. It's not an either/or choice. Context is everything. IMO.
It can be both.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:46 PM
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5. True - for example
"That crazy idiot Bush was bawling at the sight of horses"

vs

"That movie was so sad, at the end of Patch Adams I was bawling"
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:36 PM
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2. When I was growing up....
....it meant crying real hard. Usually used when people were tired of hearing it. "Quit bawling!"

I never thought of it as pejorative.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:43 PM
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3. crying loudly
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:44 PM
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4. EX-ACTLY
And yes, its rude to cry loudly in public

It's an attention grabbing device
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:46 PM
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6. Did it specify crying "loudly" in that other OP?
I must have missed that.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:48 PM
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9. Well any crying is not appropriate in the workplace
So in that case, any crying could be bawling in that sense...
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:51 PM
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13. i disagree. if i get bad news and i tear up, no one is going to describe that as bawling
so not all crying is bawling, even in the work place
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:53 PM
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18. true, but tearing up is different altogether
You aren't disrupting the workplace - big difference
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:54 PM
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21. I assumed people would only allow themselves to do that at work...
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 12:55 PM by redqueen
and would remove themselves to a restroom or their car if they got to the point of out-loud crying.

:shrug:


(And again, in my experience, it was only tearing up that warranted a public dressing down by a supervisor.)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:57 PM
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25. That would be the polite way
It's what I would do

And nothing wrong with grabbing a co-worker to take with you either

-----------------

I just had experiences with a Project Manager who would cry at the drop of a hat. Any stress, any thing wrong, even look at her in a weird way and she would start up.

Pretty soon she stopped getting invited to meetings.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:51 PM
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14. Neither is farting, but we are human beings.
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 12:52 PM by redqueen
Fart and you'll get a few jokes.

Get angry and people will give you space.

Cry and... well maybe it's regional... but in my experience, you often get demeaned and ridiculed. (Especially by women, unsurprisingly.)

YMMV.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:52 PM
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16. Yes, and when coworkers go crop dusting
(I can always tell because their stride slows for the gas release) I call them on it
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:47 PM
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7. I'm aware of the definition.
Was looking more for popular opinion on whether or not the word was "loaded" or not.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:49 PM
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10. i wasnt really meaning to define. i meant if i hear someone say bawling
it means they are describiing someone crying loudly.

i dont think its loaded
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:53 PM
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19. Thanks...
I'm wondering how much of this is regional, or perhaps even cultural.

It seems to me that around here, "bawling" is associated with babies, being childish, irrationally upset, etc.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:55 PM
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22. it is to me too. is that what you mean by loaded?
bawling describes a particular kind of crying, which i guess now i see your point, is perjorative.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:56 PM
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23. Exactly.
Calling it "bawling" IMO is "coloring" the situation by casting the crying in a particular light.

I had just assumed that anyone crying at work would only be tearing up or crying silently... not "bawling" at their desk.

:shrug:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:57 PM
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24. ahh yeah. i get you. in that situation crying and bawling are not similar
when hillary choked up during the primaries she was not bawling
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:48 PM
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8. Oh this is REALLY pissing me off
That thread was the most annoying heap of gender stereotypes it has ever been my profound lack of pleasure to read.

Men are not inherently bad. Women are not inherently good. In fact I just seem to be surrounded by assholes regardless of whether they have a Y chromosome or not.

Fuck the lounge. I am not reading any more of this crap today. See you tomorrow. Maybe.

:nuke:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:50 PM
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11. people are not inherently anything
masculinity for centuries however has been considered better than femininity, if you consider pay differentials between genders, it is still considered better.

the idea that this cannot be discussed in the louge is a little ridiculous
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:50 PM
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12. Of course neither sex is inherently bad or good.
However, society seems to take a different view, and IMO discussing our views on the ways that is manifested (or not) isn't being an asshole.

Mea culpa.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:51 PM
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15. Would you rather we talk about this in GD:P?
There is a hide thread option, ya know...
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:52 PM
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17. Wow! I must've missed quite the show!!
Where is the offending thread?

Oh, and women are inherently good. We just are. :)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:54 PM
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20. Incorrect. Women are inherently paisley
Learn it!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:01 PM
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26. I'm more of a blue plaid myself.
Chacun a son gout, I guess.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:04 PM
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27. Could you mix plaid and paisley?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:25 PM
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28. I've seen it done. I think the kids might be doing that kind of thing these days.
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 01:25 PM by mycritters2
I would never myself, though.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:00 PM
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29. Plaid and Paisley????
What is this world coming to!!!!!!!
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:15 PM
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30. All I know about bawling, I learned from David Peel.
http://forum.mininova.org/index.php?showuser=77561
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:22 PM
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32. Thankya.
:)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:22 PM
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31. This is disruptive?
:eyes:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:02 PM
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33. It can be pejorative, if in he context it's used there is an indication that the
speaker believes the level of crying is somehow excessive. As in: "Man! Bobby stubbed his toe on a nerf ball and the dude just started bawling." On the other hand, if the speaker is indicating that the level of crying is appropriate, it's just another word for significant teariness. E.g.: "When that machine gun opened up on Jefferson, I was bawling my eyes out."
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