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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:34 PM
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Does this sight ever make anyone else sad?
So it happens quite often when I am in public that I will see a parent pushing a stroller and talking on their cell phone. What bothers me is that even though the child is not facing the parent, it is still a great opportunity for bonding and helping the child discover his/her environment (and therefore learn). Some parents barely speak to their kids and language helps young children cognitively. The more, the better. I also am sad when I see couples together and one is staring into space as the other is yakking on a cell phone. How weird has it become where the person who gets top social priority is a disembodied voice? The emotional disconnect saddens me and I wonder if others notice this as well.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:45 PM
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1. I dunno if I would say it saddens me, but it does annoy me.
If I'm with anyone else, my cell phone (and iPod) definitely get put on the backburner. Hell, even at home hanging out with my girlfriend, I'll often ignore my MSN messages on my computer and things of the sort.
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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:48 PM
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2. I don't have any of that stuff because I don't even want to be tempted
And I never want to get to the point where I am staring at a tiny screen every two minutes. It becomes compulsive for many.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:49 PM
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3. It does.
It's quite liberating to switch it off and live for a while in the here.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:51 PM
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4. Because you happen to see them in a moment when they are using the cell phone
does not mean that they do not have many other moments of bonding like you describe.
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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:55 PM
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6. Granted, but since so many people work and are not with their kids as much
every moment counts. Also, my point is--what is so pressing that it trumps your child? My mom didn't yak on a cell phone, nor did my father and life went on.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:01 PM
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9. Maybe it's their older child that they are talking to, and Mom is making
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 04:02 PM by Genevieve
an arrangement with her/him on what time to pick them up from their friend's house.

That's what could be so "pressing".

Really.
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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:02 PM
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10. That is not what I am taking about...you can see that they are yakking by the casual body language.
Really.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:03 PM
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11. How many children do you have?
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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:06 PM
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13. None, zero, and zilch. And? I was born in 1965 and my parents survived all those years!
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 04:07 PM by dualitybites
Imagine that! :rofl:
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:12 PM
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14. Why are you posting so negatively and condescending?
:shrug:
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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:14 PM
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15. Because your question about kids implies that there is some difference between me and parents.
I am tired of people thinking there are special rules for parents when it comes to this stuff. Cell phones have only been in the masses since 1995, for goodness sake! It's not like a necessity, even if you ARE a parent.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:16 PM
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16. The question about kids came after
the condascending posts.

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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:22 PM
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17. Ha Ha! Good-bye!!!
Self-righteous ass.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:27 PM
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20. Haha!!!
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:32 PM
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21. Lol!
An "asshat" who loved calling everyone with a dissentin opinion an "asshat".

Good call, chimprsmarter!

:toast: :hi:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:53 PM
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5. one of my neighbors is on her phone as soon as she and her suburban assault vehicle are
out of the garage, same thing when she's driving back down the street to her house. I see people at restaurants on their phones while they are sitting with their dates, families etc. I have a cell phone but i don't use it much, i'm not a big phone person and California is hands free and i still don't have a hands free kit so no using the phone in the car for me either.
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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:56 PM
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7. Good for you...and I like that term Suburban Assault Vehicle, however
to make it SUV, we need a 'u' adjective...
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:57 PM
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8. Faux Communication
Whether it be out in public or just around the house far too many communicate "thru the wires" instead of in person. There are times when one has no choice,when the other lives far away etc but it's this constant habit of texting instead of talking,becoming one with a cell phone instead of enjoying the food or the company. Teens ignore the one next to them as they communicate by thumb.Kids often act up just to be heard over mamas cell phone. The world is passing them by.
There was a time when family vacations meant a bit of bonding and seeing the sites. Now they panic if their cell phone won't be able to pick up their friends.No longer do people come home and say hello. Instead it's check the cell phone,emails etc. How ironic that with so many forms of electronic communication at hand people struggle with knowing how to look someone in the eye and form a conversation!
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dualitybites Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:05 PM
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12. You totally, completely, utterly nailed it.
And there is this illusion of intimacy which these devices inspire. And it's really dysfunctional.

I even notice it in the Lounge. You will have people saying: "Now I am doing this or am here" and I almost get the feeling that they always have to be outside of themselves, like cell phone junkies. Like that old Zen koan about whether or not the tree exists if no one hears it. The chronic yakkers don't feel they exist unless they have witnesses.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:25 PM
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18. It makes me crazy!
That's exactly what I think too. Parents should spend what little time they have with their children socializing them and verbalizing with them. People work and commute such long hours, and kids spend so much time in daycare, that it worries me when I see parents ignoring their kids like this on weekends.

Back in B.C. (Before Cellphones) when I raised my 2 daughters, we would chat while shopping, talk about stuff in the stores, learn new words, count items, etc.

This cell phone nonsense gives kids the message that they're not important to Mommy or Daddy. I worry that we're going to have a generation of sociopaths.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 04:27 PM
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19. OP has been TS'ed.
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