Did you guys know the Duggars have had their home declared a "church"

and therefore tax exempt? How dishonest is that?!

Really?

Well, given the never-ending self-indulgence those cretins demonstrate by littering Mother Earth with their spawn, why would I be surprised that they're nothing but self-indulgent cheats?

but they did. A colleague called me last night to wish me a Merry Christmas and ask how my service went. When I told her I was watching the Duggar marathon, she asked if I knew their house was tax exempt. They claim to worship there, they videotape sermons and make podcasts, and have other people over for worship. Apparently. I found several references to this on the web but nothing that absolutely documents it. Still, it would help to explain how they support all those kids.

So they produce the kids and we get to support them.

Ah, wouldn't Jesus be proud?

(Is the insertion of that "sarcasm" emoticon really necessary here?)

that it's simply their 'choice' quite mute. Personal choices have wide ranging impact in the real world.

That's not a whole lot to expect from people who are ostensibly mature enough to begin reproducing.

A lot of us are responsible.

Some aren't.

Selfish morans.

That's not a whole lot to expect from people who are ostensibly mature enough to begin reproducing.

A lot of us are responsible.

Some aren't.

Selfish morans.

really? Well hell, I could start a church in my house, sign me up!

It's been a few days.

There were buying new baby stuff.

She's what, 42? Conception gets kinda difficult around then. I think my grandmother finally had her last at that age.

But she had three c-sections already.
Maybe her OB-GYN is telling her to stop?

I'd have tied off a couple of vital parts while I was in there.

And (shudder) would that mean surrogacy with one of the older daughters is in the offing?

That's crazy. But you know what, they sure are cashing in on it with all the notoriety they are getting. Maybe that was the plan all along.

I think it should be on the CHILLER channel.

I guess this was all they could think of.

So now they do not even have to pay taxes...

How did you find that out? Can anyone declare their home a church? Not saying I would but, it's interesting to know what the criteria is.

the info about the Duggars having their house be a church.


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081018014101AA6aFvp

Strange people.

From one of the posts in the link

Looking at the Duggar family (family of almost 20 - featured on the Discovery channel), they operate their home as a church, in addition to everything else they use their home for, and due to this they have a large amount of tax ride-offs. This has all been stated through their website and the reality-based show about them, so it's obviously not an impossible task.

They girls get all the burdens of teen parents.

Because being the IRS auditor for those obnoxious people sounds like a dream job to me.

From wikipedia:

Michelle was named "Young Mother of the Year in Arkansas" in 2004<12><13>. The Duggars are conservative Baptists<14> who endorse the Quiverfull movement.
The Duggars state that their children are blessings from God. When they initially married, Michelle miscarried while on birth control. After no longer using it she was able to conceive many more times <15> .
Jim Bob Duggar is a former state legislator who served in the Arkansas House of Representatives from 1999 to 2002. The Duggars now say their income is derived from the commercial properties they own <16><17>. The Duggars claim they live debt-free <18><19> which Jim Bob has said is "the fruit of Jim Sammons' Financial Freedom Seminar" he attended years ago.
The Duggars raise their children using the buddy system, in which an older sibling assists the younger sibling in daily tasks. The older buddy "will get the younger ones' meals" <20>. According to Michelle, "They help them with their little phonics lessons and games during the day and help them practice their music lessons. They will play with them or help them pick out the color of their outfit that they want to wear that day, and just all of those types of things." <21>

My findings:
Arkansas is heavy on teh stoopid in their case.
Michelle's miscarriage took some brain matter with it (with apologies to any who've experienced this sad thing).
If their income is derived from commercial property holdings, they need to not be gaming the system as "a church".
I'm disgusted with them, and it's sad that their lives are glorified in a teevee show.

rant off/

Gee, I'll make my own church too. We'll see if that flies.

like the Duggars. These people are a prime example why the term Christian is a derogatory term in the eyes of many in this country. Idolaters, the lot of them.

Frankly, it's disgusting. The younger children have never had real, involved parents--just their older sibling "buddies."

:puke:

of their parents' reproductive irresponsibility.

;-)

of course they are dishonest, it's the nature of this particular animal to be dishonest

You know how many times Michelle had to see God to do that? There's no way it's NOT a church!

the way they dress the girls.

Does anyone else smell "cult"?

More things that will creep you out...google "far above rubies curriculum." It's a homeschool "unit study" program that teaches girls the value of homemaking as a "full time" profession. Apparently it's been rewritten in recent years to claim you can be a full-time homemaker in addition to being a full-time something else, to get it away from its reputation as a book that trained girls in the joys of being barefoot and pregnant.

noun
-A particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
-The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
-A system of religious belief and worship.

So yes, they belong to a cult.

dressing their daughters as if they walked out of Little House on the Prairie? The boys get to dress in far more modern clothes and hair styles than do the girls.

I watched a program showcasing the Duggars when they had "only"16 kids and they were going on a cross country vacation in a motor home. They stopped at the home of another family who had 14 kids! The older daughters were in the kitchen comparing notes on MENUS and going to the store.

I wonder how many of the Duggar kids will have more than one or two kids if that much? I come from a family of seven. My mom was divorced when I was six. I always felt like I was a burden and that she would have been happier if she had not had as many kids. I never wanted kids and neither did my now deceased younger brother.

and some of them are very close.

But I digress; looking at the kids' faces, I dare say anything from "half of" to "all of" them are inbred.

Blonde hair is a recessive allele--the child needs to receive it from both parents to be blonde. Both Duggars are dark-haired, but a third of their children are blonde? There are so many children in this family you'll see a lot of recessive traits come to the surface, assuming both parents carry them, but it's a little strange that this trait would surface in a third of their offspring.

Gregor Mendel would have a field day in the Duggars' house.

But their hair darkens considerably by the time they reach adulthood. My hair was almost white as a toddler - it's light brown (well graying) now. My son's hair was the same way. His dad's eyes were gray, mine are hazel, and his are very light hazel.

Hair and eye color are a lot more complicated genetically than our high school science texts lead us to believe.

My parents are both dark haired (brown and black), out of 6 kids, 3 are red heads, 2 are blondes, and one is a brunette. 1 red headed grandpa and a light brown haired grandpa both grandma's brunettes.

It looks like there should be a Quiznos and a video rental place in there.

Maybe they're getting "Faith Based Initiative" money from the gummint, too?

I love you guys.

jesus himself had unkind words for those who used religion as a path to wealth

using resources like any other group of 20 people, and not supporting the community which provides those resources. I'm open to debate over tax-exemptions for non-profits. But that home is clearly a home, and no more a valid tax-exemption than your home.

That's all.

Some people just need to be noticed.

There. The poster was noticed.

And you're looking smarter than ever. Well done!

:toast:

In that book one of the Hasidic rebels told the author relates that some Hasidim will have their homes declared synagogues in order to benefit from the tax breaks. When I read that it made me sick.


http://tinyurl.com/78gkwd

There was a 40-ish woman who lived in Arkansas.
She had so many children....her uterus fell out.

The End.

We have two parishioners: me and my Sweetie.

Seriously, can they legally do that?

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in your third sentence I read this...



SO, you may want to come off that high horse before you fall off and hurt yourself...

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By chance?

If you or anyone here disagrees with my point of view, you got two choices:

---1 tell me what is your problem with my opinion
---2 ignore me

Well, you got three choices:

---3 complain and have my post deleted.

I never had kids so honestly don't know what I'd do with a teenage or pre-teenage daughter who was stretching my limits. So I got no business having an opinion, I simply have an opinion.

Discussion? Debate? I read every word of every post here very carefully before deciding to post myself. I realize I am the dissenting opinion. And I find the topic very interesting.

I prefer to leave things up so that the poster can live with what they have posted.

but I honestly think you are arguing an indefensible position, how much time do you think each individual kid gets with mom and dad a day? You are assuming that their life is great, do you have any basis for that belief other than an assumption?

Appearances are deceiving, especially in "christian" families that are putting themselves out in the media, keep that in mind when assuming things based on your limited understanding of this family.

Unless you know them personally, then you should tell all.

but I do not see that different from everyone else assuming the worst about this family.

If the moderator would be so kind as to tell me what happened to my post and why it would be very much appreciated.

If I EVER do something against the rules here I would not have done it deliberately. I don't post alot but I read alot of posts and pop up with a word or two when it moves me to say something.

When I was a kid I thought it would have beeen nice to have been part of a larger family, as I was one of two siblings. In some ways I had it good and in some ways not so good, but seeing this family's story when they were putting their house up (and I don't have a TV of my own so I don't see everything that may have been up about them) I thought it was great, they looked really happy, and felt good about the whole thing, except not being able to understand how one woman could actually want to go through pregnancy so many times.

I did not know about the church - tax shelter (if that's what it is) until reading it here tonite.

Do people know other pretty humungous families that they can desscribe what they see about the lifestyle these families lead? Here is another 'assumption' of mine-- people who wanna have a huge pile of kids are going to be way more involved in their family life than people who simply go 'oops, here comes another one!' every now and then, not really planning their pregnancies but simply going with the flow.

Because if a girl does not dress herself "respectfully" a boy/man cannot possibly be expected to respect her, and must go at her like a rutting deer.

:eyes:

I guess I'm on a high-horse, then. I know when I was a kid parents had some reigns to pull in when it came to how you dressed to go out in public. I was pointing out at people complaining about how the girls were dressed in the family picture. Those kids are growing up with family values.

Those girls are having to raise all of their mom's younger babies. Having done that (with just one) and having discussed that with with my aunt (who did so long enough ago that the kids she raised are all over 60, one's had a stroke and one's long dead) I think I can say that's really not a fair thing to do to a kid.

"Family Values?" Now, what the heck are THOSE?

I'd say it's appreciating the family members you have, not trying to collect 'em all like Pokemon. Oh, and valuing Mom for something other than a full auto Baby Shooter (TM).

They are growing up with a close-knit family life and how many kids are raised that way now?

They have to SCHEDULE time with their parents. That's not a close knit family life. You can't be close to eighteen kids at once and still sleep. It's just not possible.

How many young girls are being taught by their parents to dress their body respectfully?

Teaching them to fear sex and putting them in little house on the prarie outfits is not teaching them to respect their body. It's shame.

How many parents are taking the time to teach their kids ANYTHING? Eating dinner together at home? Healthy natural food?

Please go look on the recipe section of their website. They wouldn't know a healthy natural food unless you drowned it in cream of mushroom soup and tater tots.

These kids got it MADE. They are very fortunate and I'll just bet they might know it too.

They've got money. What they don't have is 1. a childhood 2. regular one on one time with attentive parents. I had a pretty fucked up childhood, and I wouldn't trade mine for theirs in a million years.

:thumbsup:

I'll add: Mom is having more babies not because she wants more, she's having them because she thinks God wants her to have more.

Got it? :shrug:

this sort of behavior is highly selfish and selfcentered. if we all had 18 kids, do you think the planet can sustain it?

this is their god's earth.. they should make some effort to protect it!

Is six or eight too many? Eleven?

again, how does one become good because they breed?