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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:39 AM
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Uh-oh. Smarm alert.
The Last Mimzy.

Really sweet movie with a great message.

If you haven't seen it, do.

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:43 AM
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1. really?
it has been playing lately on the movie channel, I forget which one. The kids have "powers", right?
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:46 AM
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2. It's a morality tale.
I enjoyed it the fist time around. I think most here would.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:13 AM
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3. But it is not a hopeful tale.
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 05:45 AM by RandomThoughts
It has more of the 12 monkey tale to it, where it claims things will go bad, and the future is trying to get dna to fix their own time.

The counter to this is temporal incursions that fix things now, and are only played out for the future by the bettering of the time line now, this requires dimensional shifting or pockets for temporal evaluations, but is a theory that does not invoke a hopeless fate, instead it gives the idea that things will work out.

But hey, its got the stuffed animal rabbit. So what can you say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHhmwGzN8w

It should be noted that nano tech, is one of the few techs that could actually replicate supernatural events with normal reality means. For example, communication, or healing, or feelings of spirit could theoretically be achieved by a secondary intellect that is the combination of many people's nanobots. Basically creating a secondary hive like mind above individuals.

This can also be explained in spiritual means of coarse.

The ideas of levitation and teleportation of objects requires a rework of what is reality, or what is the totality of existence, in any case where matter manipulation like this occurs, then the whole concept of nano tech as a source becomes ridiculous. If you can manipulate matter, you have no need for nanotech to teach someone the process, unless it is an interface system with the larger 'reality'. And requirements of nanotech become a symbolic explanation that is not needed, since direct matter manipulation, means direct communication or education could be done without intermediary devices.

Also moving something forward in time is theoretically very easy compared to back, you only have to stop the effects of time, occurring in an entity to move it forward in time. So the whole idea of having difficulty moving things forward has always been a bit far fetched. 12 monkeys did ok with the phone call idea.

but hey its a story.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:40 AM
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4. Temporal Lore
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 05:54 AM by RandomThoughts
I find this a fascinating topic, and it is covered very well in thousands of sci-fi stories. Almost all the books get the time travel bit mixed up for sake of plot line, but some writers really get it down pretty good. They stay consistent within the rules they create for the fictional tales.

But for me, I believe it is that God knows the future and prepares the way for people. I personally don't believe in time travelers changing the past, but people predicting the future, which creates an illusion of getting something from the future.

But time travel shows are good mind puzzles and fun entertainment.

I see many of these stories as attempts to move the supernatural back to the natural, to keep the existence of the supernatural from people.

Nanobots could not explain many things though, events of serendipity, or more. For instance when the butterfly landed on Patch Adams when he was in a time of strife. Just as an example. Many more such events would not fit nanotech sci-fi/borg normal world explanasion.
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:44 AM
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5. LOL...
Nicely said. But I'd still rather call it simply a morality tale.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:44 AM
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6. so, If I liked 12 Monkeys then I will like Mimzy?
12 Monkeys --
An unknown and lethal virus has wiped out five billion people in 1996. Only 1% of the population has survived by the year 2035, and is forced to live underground. A convict (James Cole) reluctantly volunteers to be sent back in time to 1996 to gather information about the origin of the epidemic (who he's told was spread by a mysterious "Army of the Twelve Monkeys") and locate the virus before it mutates so that scientists can study it. Unfortunately Cole is mistakenly sent to 1990, six years earlier than expected, and is arrested and locked up in a mental institution, where he meets Dr. Kathryn Railly, a psychiatrist, and Jeffrey Goines, the insane son of a famous scientist and virus expert.

more at link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114746/
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:48 AM
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7. Maybe....
I did. But then again, I liked The Little Mermaid too.

Mimzi isn't high art but it's a sweet SF cautionary tale.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:51 AM
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8. high art...
but, did you like Mary Poppins? and do you consider 12 Monkeys to be high art? and what is high art anyway? that which is to be enjoyed while high? :smoke:

I think my meds need to be adjusted, really I do.:yoiks:
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:54 AM
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9. LOL!!!!
I guess I'm thinking drama vs brain candy. Mmmmmm Me love brain candy.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:05 AM
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10. It's a wonderful movie
I read the classic short story years ago and the movie is quite a departure but very satisfying on it's own.
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:22 AM
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11. I did enjoy it.
Twice.

:)
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