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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:34 AM
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Can The World of Star Trek Help Americans Understand Muslims? (Landover)
True Christian™ Star Trek fan, and Sunday School teacher, Geoffrey Mullins, thinks so. Most fans of the popular television series, Star Trek, are already aware that the show's creator, Gene Roddenberry, gathered ideas for his fictional Klingon species during a trip to the Holy Land in the late 1960's. After only a cursory viewing of an early episode of Star Trek, Landover Baptist Pastors were shocked at how closely Roddenberry's Klingon characters resembled Arabs, in both their features and mannerisms. "I'm not a big fan of Mr. Roddenberry," says Landover Baptist Pastor, Deacon Fred. "But our opinions are very similar when it comes to Muslims. Being a Jew, Mr. Roddenberry knew first hand what it was like to be persecuted by such a filthy, backward race of warmongers. My guess is that he couldn't come right out and say what he felt in public, so he used the television series, Star Trek, to get his views across. Only an unsaved idiot would have a hard time seeing how obvious it is that Star Trek's, Klingons, are actually Arabs in disguise. I understand it's harder to tell with the new series, because they started to get politically correct and had to change the makeup so it wasn't so obvious. Well, you don't need a degree in Theology to see how clear it still is. In fact, I think the new makeup does an even better job of bringing out the demonic nature and character of the Arab people."

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http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0203/startrek.html
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:37 AM
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1. Youre aware thats a phony site right?
Im a christian and a star trek fan and if anything the klingons represented the soviets..

Movie nr6 practicly proves it
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:57 AM
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3. Yep
That's why I put "Landover" in the title. Most people arround here know who they are.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:41 AM
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2. Bullshit...
Roddenberry fashioned the Federation and it's two main enemies after the political atmosphere of the sixties. The Klingons were fashioned after the USSR, and the Romulans were based on China. This is evidenced by the Alliance between the Federation and the Klingons in TNG, and the continued adversarial relationship with the Romulans. Just MHO.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:58 AM
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4. Landover is the religious equivalent of The Onion
It's satire.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:59 AM
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5. I Think You & Kamika Are Right
It was clearly a geopolitical conflict allegory with the U.S., USSR, and China all being represented. The Vulcans were the more established countries of Europe who somewhat looked down on the mere humans who "ran" the federation but still preferred allying themselves with Earth than with the alternatives.

I don't buy this website's version of things, at all.
The Professor
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:24 AM
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8. vulcans and romulans are the same though
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 10:25 AM by Kamika
They are the same race, just different ideals or "-isms"

My theory is that the vulcans was the democratic asians and romulans as you pointed out china
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:19 AM
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11. The Only Reason I Proposed What I Did. . .
. . .is the concept of the Vulcans being a "cultural elite" even from the earliest days. (Think Spock and McCoy's early relationship. It wasn't played for comedy in the earliest episodes.) That relationship's frostiness is really emphasized in "enterprise".

I think the Old World/New World relationship is manifested there. While i agree in principle to the the vulcan/romulan "sameness" issue, i think the allegory is "intentionally" broken down as an iron curtain metaphor. While the Vulcans looked down their noses at the plebian humans (England and France, vis a vis the Americans), they found them more appealing than the Eastern European communists (either of the bad guys!).

I'm just postulating, so your assessment is every bit as valid as mine, of course. But, i'm sticking with me. It makes sense to me.
The Professor
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 09:59 AM
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6. Tastless joke warning
Please note that the opinions expressed in the following passage do not reflect those of the poster.


Why doesn't Star Trek have any Muslim characters?

Because it takes place in the future.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:20 AM
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7. lol
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 10:25 AM by Kamika
thats so mean :p

Come to think of it i havent really seen any jews either..

Im not sure how the future is but i bet most religions has been kinda assimiliated to one..

Getting to know there are hundreds of other species out there would unite us pretty fast, also theres been a 3rd world war
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:42 AM
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9. That was one thing I liked about B5
It actually dealt with the religious situation of the future in a fairly realistic fashion, imo.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:59 AM
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10. Maybe they are Vulcans?
Just a thought.
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