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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:53 PM
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I noticed something odd in the clip about President Obama's trip to five guys.
The clip at the link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/03/obama-gets-frustrated-at_n_210967.html

The story is about a trip for burgers, but there is something weird from 39 to 44 seconds

The Narrative is that President Obama is going around taking lunch orders for burgers.

Then at 39 you see him at a door, and in the background is Axelrod, Geitner, and a few others talking, but look at their position and stance. Geitner has a rolled up paper in hand

But one second later, they show a close up shot of the group, and they look like they are not interested or perturbed, no smiles no comments, just 'looks'.

But the shots are not actually in sequence, look at the positions of Geitner and Axelrod, they change from 39 seconds, and 41 seconds, this shows an edit. Also a tall guy is now standing next to Axelrod at 41, that was not their at 39, also Geitner has paper under arm not in hand.

But the presentation of the editing makes it look like the group looks over with disdain at President Obama talking about getting lunch, when it is more likely they were reacting to an earlier prompting by someone with a camera.


It is out of sequence, and gives an impression that does not seem to be an image of friendly support for President Obama. If you look at the 39 seconds part, with both President Obama and the group in frame, they are all turned, and in responce to the President, unlike the 41 second part where they had uninterested frowns.

This may or may not have been calculated, but it conveys an untrue image.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:55 PM
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1. Five Guys also sells hotdogs and grilled cheese. This post probably belongs in the 9/11 forum.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:57 PM
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2. LOL!!! nt
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:59 PM
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3. Now that's a leap.
What does it have to do with 9/11 make your case for a connection. Or is it just throwing out a topic with a known label to devalue a obvious fact that editing did give a false presentation, although it might have been unintentional.

It is true that the imagery, and the reality pre-editing are different.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:05 PM
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4. Peanuts ......
You forgot about the peanuts.

There's really no excuse for that................
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:32 PM
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5. Except!!!! That they don't want you to remove peanuts from the premises
because of allergies to local neighborhood children.




Still this thread belongs in 9/11. :tinfoilhat:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:34 PM
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6. You guys don't see the imagery used in the media?
Is your intent to say that it does not exist,
or that it is correlation without causation,
or that it is obvious and the media always distorts,
or it is over analysis and means nothing and does not suggest a distorted view of the feelings.

There have been some funny jokes, but nobody has addressed whether they think this is manipulation of media, or something else.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:45 PM
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7. I just thought it was silly, no offense intended -
the editing of those things is always sort of random when you consider background shots, and you do appear to be trying to make something out of nothing.

But, I hope you're not offended. I think the "9/11 forum" remark was hilarious, and just had to jump in.............
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 08:15 PM
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8. No I am not offended, I often make jokes also.
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 08:15 PM by RandomThoughts
But when I watched the video, the look of Geitner and those in that circle jumped out as 'out of place'. So I stopped and looked, and sure enough it was edited.

Not saying it was intentional, just that it felt skewed, then further looking showed it was edited.
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