What's so 'classic' about boring music from the 70s.

I went and picked up my suit at the cleaners and the overhead music was the 70s Rock station. The announcer made reference to the term 'Classic Rock' and that had me thinking... When did this shit become 'classic' to begin with? One could argue the Chuck Berry era of music is more befitting for such a term. Also, all other sub-genre's of Rock have proper monikers be it Glam or Punk or Heavy Metal. So why the fuck is Classic Rock 'Classic'? Beats the shit out of me. Most 70s Rock sucks the big one. They should call it 'Suck Rock', instead.

dealing with music. That's true of automobiles too.

You're absolutely right, just because it's old doesn't mean it's any damned good. Or that it was ever any damned good. But people who are pushing the shit have to hype it somehow. And the word "classic" is how they do it.

Now get off my lawn!

I think you've got it!

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Check out these oldies. Far from boring.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYtph7YFscE

If the 70s were so great, howcome Punk Rock came around and kicked the shit out of it? And don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of Punk Rock, but obviously so called 'Classic Rock' sucked bad enough to warrant a whole generation to destroy it.

to me, that was punk, and that was part of the reason why punk occurred.

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And you're right, garbage like that helped spawn punk.

That's part of the reason it went out the window! :rofl:

The first two are considered the foundations of punk and latter certainly was certainly a major influence for the Genre. Where exactly do you think these bands got their inspiration from? Probably from the same places that the rest of 70's rock did. They just took it in a different direction.

I don't hear a classic punk rock and I wouldn't know punk rock if I heard it.

My argument is not should or shouldn't people listen to it. America is often fascinated, and nostalgic, for a great many things that suck. If you like it, that's on you.

I have an issue with it being called 'Classic'. It's a dumb label where as most other genre's of Rock and Roll have appropriate labels. Especially considering there's nothing classic about it, except that it's old.

"Golden Oldies" is usually referenced in the early rock n roll years pre-Beatles. Radio Format Directors had to think up a similar term post-Beatles term to brand the format, though what it does most times is to take the idea of early 70's free-form FM radio and install it w/ a CHR/Top 40 feel to try to make it palatable for the mass listeners.

I can't listen to it most times; not my thing.

When the folks in radio marketing decided that they could do better than, "Music for Old Fucks" .

I was a teen in the early 70s, and some of the worst stuff from that era keeps recurring. I would much rather think of punk as classic from that period, frankly.

Then how come so many of the bands from that era still draw crowds..The Stones, The Who, Rush, etc....? I think alot of the seventies rock actually became the forerunner of much of today's music. Notice how many people know the words to music from the Eagles, Styx, Queen, ELO, etc. Hell Queen music is played at sports venues its so iconic. So no, I think the term Classic Rock is pretty accurate.

Let's get some shit straight. The Stones and The Who are charting 60s acts who survived the 70s. They can't get mixed in with the general suck of the 70s. Secondly, the fact that the other acts are associated with arenas is ultimately why they blow so hard. Everything was over the top - stage shows, guitar solos, attitudes, etc. All of the above is far from 'classic' by the way. It's arrogance. Don't get me wrong, there are some exceptions but they are few and far between. The vast majority of 70s Rock artists were trying to out Beatle The Beatles. ZZZZzzzz... You know why 3-5 minute pop/rock songs kick ass? Because they're not 10 minutes long, that's why.

If today's music is using the 70s as a blue print, no one will be surprised when all these assclowns on VH1 and American Idol become irrelevant as the next wave of unexpected talent slap their shit down. More importantly, I look forward to listening to music again... Well, hopefully.

doesn't mean that the music doesn't have value or quality...:P I will once again remind you that any music that can stick with so many people for so long (say Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen for example) must have some intrinsic value.

I'll give you that people are addicted to suck, and Americans in particular have a fondness for suck nostalgia like no other.

My biggest gripe is it doesn't warrant the moniker, 'classic'. You can't deny 'Punk Rock' is well, for punks. But what is 'Classic Rock' good for? I don't think it's classic at all.

I lived the 60s and 70s, and still prefer listening to the Eagles, Foreigner, Bob Seger, etc etc than most of the fluff stuff out there today.

"Eh, what's that? Look, Billy, that skinny guy looks like Mick Jagger up there! Woooo Mick!! What are they talking about? I can see his lips moving. And who is that actor they got to play Keith Richards, anyway? Poor old Keith Richards, if only he could have lived to see this. Dammit, the prunes! I'll be back in half an hour. Hope they have some silent show with Eagles lookalikes up next, that would be asskickin!"

classical type rock. But what do I know? :shrug:

At any rate, I love a lot of 70s rock, so boo sucks to you! :P *neener neener*

Some of it was good, great, and some was bad.

Now, starting in the early 80's I stopped listening to new rock music, didn't interest me.

New rock music doesn't interest me now, and I have heard it.

In a few years the little kids of today will be saying the same about the music you like.

Get ready for it.

That's why I can offend everyone equally.

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as do I :P

Oh, I have a cut of trombones playing Flight of the Bumblebee you might want to hear sometime :D

We are in a very, very, very (very) small minority. We make Zappa look like U2.

:D

Public and college radio in the 70s twisted me away from the corporate propaganda, thankfully. Although, would you believe it was some teen show on the early years of Nicklelodeon where I saw a video of "I Like Little Girls" thus introducing me to Oingo Boingo? Whoda thunk? Wouldn't happen today...

I think the song was written to be so incredibly catchy with seemingly vague lyrics, even today no one would notice. I've seen morons on youtube post videos of their daughters with that as the background music.

I think it was last year that TVLand aired "The Day After" and were cutting out scenes due to their "graphic nature" where that had not been the case when the TV-movie had originally aired, 25 years prior. Corporate broadcast sensibilities are more lawyer-driven these days. Youtube doesn't have that kind of "restriction" to its thinking.

I trust that answers your question?

:P

Your heinousness is out of control!

That's so funny :rofl:

http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artists70s.html

What I don't understand is why this group of music gets this label, and it's not really a fitting label.

of the big ass corporate radio programmers. Nuthin' they love better that to put a label on something. They really suck!

They should never use anything other than their callsign and frequency. Let people listen for 2-3 days to figure out what kind of genre they play. Anything else is complete bullshit. They are only catering to lazy pricks who can't go for 5 minutes without turning the dial.

even this?

B) Gangsters is a cover of Al Capone from Prince Buster... In the 60s.

Got any other swiss cheese arguments we can gnaw on?

not me

The Specials play Ska. Technically, a genre of music invented nearly simultaneously as Rock and therefore, outside of the scope of this thread.

while using the logo of a seventies band.

The whole decade isn't complete crap, it's just the snoozefest that happened somewhere between Woodstock and The Clash.

I was driving around with my brother when "Smells Like Teen Spirit" came on. He thought that was weird until I pointed out that it was, after all, a 17 year old song at this point.

That were recorded in the 2000's but sound like they were recorded in the 70's.

I don't think it would be good marketing to call it the "suckass sounds of the 70s" even if it does.

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Rock was never meant to be classic, it was meant to be in your face, rude, brash, with an attitude. Classic rock is really just what sold big in that era, regardless of artistic merit.

Rock got co-opted by capitalism and the economics of the industry. The dividing line was Woodstock, where everyone realized suddenly that there was a mass market for this music. Everything changed after that.

Rock from the '70s includes great stuff and terrible stuff, and all of it is played on the radio.

The best and most creative stuff came from the punk and some of the new wave stuff at the end of the decade.

but rock hasn't had any new ideas in decades, either. Rock is boring, and has been boring, and re-cycling itself for at least 25 years.

This would be it.

Everything becomes classic if it persists long enough, and 40 years definitely fits that bill.

Seriously, I know Creekdog is on vacation, but y'all are slacking...:rofl:

The thing about Rush is that after seeing the movie "I Love You Man" I kind of think of Rush in a much more comical way than I used to.

How can CCR, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, The Eagles, and countless others ever stand a chance of competing with the musical genius of P. Diddy Daddy, eminem, Nefarious B.I.G., Brittney Spears, or 25 cents?

I mean, who can possibly discount the melodic masterpiece "Short Dick Man"? And who can possibly forget eminem's song, "Still don't give a fuck", which was a brilliant follow up to his song, "Just don't give a fuck".

Today's music is just fucking brilliant. Everything else is complete shit.

I have no affection for today's top stars. Furthermore, the next time I read in Spin some Danish dude with two turntables is going to reinvent music, I'll probably shoot myself.

I do, however, have no problem pointing out that the 70s era of music is inaccurately called 'Classic'.

Everything before or since is nothing less than fucking brilliant by comparison.

By the marketing departments of the radio stations that play it. They had to give a name to the 'safe' stuff people knew. The radio stations will never take chances. Elvis Costello wrote a song about that, Radio,radio. Another example is what I like to call a punk song before punk came along.

Here's a link..........
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0XknwXqLDo

Also, many of the "current" acts you listed started in the '90s, not the 2000s.

Merely suggesting that any band that had some of their biggest hits during the 70's actually created "70's music" should earn me the biggest asshole of the thread award. Likewise I should get the living shit kicked out of me for merely suggesting that some of the top hitmakers of the last 10 years can actually be called "today's music".

I could I possibly post something that fucking ridiculous? Thanks for setting me straight.

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Your last few posts were up and over the right field wall. Well done.

You'd be able to power a fleet of Priuses.

Billboard Hot 100 Singles for the given year:

1965: Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs, "Wooly Bully"
1966: Sgt. Barry Sadler, "Ballad of the Green Berets"
1967: Lulu, "To Sir, With Love"
1968: The Beatles, "Hey Jude"
1969: The Archies, "Sugar, Sugar"
1970: Simon & Garfunkel, "Bridge over Troubled Water"
1971: Three Dog Night, "Joy To The World"
1972: Roberta Flack, "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"
1973: Tony Orlando and Dawn, "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Ole Oak Tree"
1974: Barbra Streisand, "The Way We Were"
1975: Captain & Tennile, "Love Will Keep Us Together"

Every decade has their turds. The only question is which have the most and least.

something similar - seems like music went from Hendrix to disco in about 6 months, and stayed there way too long.
I was so happy to see the Punks come along, I can't describe it to you.
They call it Classic because it's hard to market something called "old, terrible shit".
mark

Oooh, look at me, I'm a child of the late 70's, I have no attention span look I learned three chords I can play punk I'm talented - oooh look at this, it's the 80's MTV, mom make me some tang, look at these people in shiny outfits, look they have keyboards, ooh look I programmed my keyboard to play a repetitive track, I can sing over it, I'm an 80's star, how's my hair? Oooh look I got a macintosh I can program tones to resemble music, check out my accent, I can sing all monotone and bored, I'm a modern rock star! Mom make me some mac 'n' cheese, ooh look I'm a late 90's rocker, I can replay old music cut it and mix it and make new music, I'm an alterna-star, hear the record scratch I'm down wit rap/rock yo! Oooh look I'm a alternative star, I can sing off-key and play music without structure, Starbucks sell my CD, ooh look I'm a new millenium star, I copy music styles of the 80s for teens with false nostalgia, i'm like uber cool or kewl as the kids would say!

Ooh, look at me, I'm a Boomer, I can take half-baked blues riffs and throw in a pointless, tuneless, eight minute guitar solo.

You really can play that game with any genre of music :)

to thumping on Boomers. Now we're at the root of the hate. sweet.

"Oooh, look at me, I'm a child of the late 70's..."

"oooh look at this, it's the 80's MTV..."

"ooh look I'm a late 90's rocker..."

"ooh look I'm a new millenium star..."

In a sense, yes, it's about the Boomers.

like all that "legacy" COBOL code.

Otherwise you would not be spewing your putrid bile.

David Bowie
The Ramones
Blondie
Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground
The Stooges
were all 70s bands I like mid seventies Bob Dylan the best

Blondie, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, John Lennon, Queen, The Bee Gees, The Temptations, Gladys Knight, Marvin Gaye, The Police, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, Carole King, The Ramones, Billy Joel, David Bowie, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Eagles, ABBA, CCR, The B-52s, Tom Petty, Rod Stewart, Smokey Robinson, Patti Smith, The Doobie Brothers, The Doors, Wings, Joni Mitchell, Cheap Trick, Bob Dylan, The Hollies, The Moody Blues, The Kinks.. I think there was LOTS of good rock/R&B from the 70s.

I'm not enamored with the classic rock as best label either, but a lot of rock from the 50s-70s is still the among the best.