Can someone explain to me why Jackson Browne is in the Hall of Fame?

Okay ZZ- Top sure I can see that (even if they did sellout)
Prince- sure I can see that
Bob Seger- as much as I can't stand his music I can still see that
George Harrison- What in the hell took so long?

But Jackson Browne? I don't care if "The Boss" did introduce him he gets in for 4 songs and hanging around with the Eagles and being "sexy"?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/music_rock_hall

Browne co-wrote "Take it Easy" for the Eagles, then was successful on his own with "Doctor My Eyes," "The Pretender" and "Running on Empty," chronicling the turn of the 1960s utopian dream into the cynical '70s.

The "No Nukes" concert organizer has mixed the political with the personal throughout his career.

"I want to thank you for allowing me to put my personal politics in my songs," he said. "Music is a very empowering thing. I'm thankful for having had a lifetime doing it. Thank you for this job."

"Rosie" is a classic.

however you spell that. Oh yeah, that wasn't a real success, either...

:shrug:

I actually liked JB until the Lawyers in Love era, but, what the hell.

can't remember the name of it but it was a live cut and went on for about 4 days or so

stupid, stupid song

Hell Bob Seger's "Turn The Page" is a much better song about life on the road. :D

There is no such thing as a good song about life on the road. People whining about how hard it is to live as a musician, when we all know they are living their dream, is offputting to the extreme.

I hate all those types of songs.

The worst: Journey's Open Arms. Video of a song about how tough life is on the road, shows the band boarding a Lear Jet, and getting out of limousines. Hmmmmm! Looks pretty darned tough to me, boys.
The Professor

...not that it was good. Actually, it's one of the worst songs Seger ever made. It's just better than Browne's whine. :-)

Sorry, i must not be able to make the distinctions between different pieces of dreck that you can! That is clearly a skill unto itself.

The Professor

I can't remember the group but the hook/chorus(I'm not a musician) is from another song. He updated the middle but that didn't really stand the test of time (8 track reference).

and well said (as usual). I always thought the same thing when I would hear Seger's whine (god I hate that song!). Couldn't change the station fast enough! Give me a freakin' break! Try living life as the bus driver or the maids who clean your hotel rooms.


:hi:

;-)

:hi::hug:

Maybe they appreciate what they've got since so few women (compared to men) make it to rock star status. :shrug:

:hi: :hug: yourself smart ass!

I'm just trying not to slap the Bob Seger-haters...Bob's fantastic. My first ever concert at the tender age of 15 was Bob and Silver Bullet Band! They rocked! :-) (Except for Turn The Page, obviously.)

Remember, better a smart ass than a dumb ass. ;-)

:evilgrin: ;-) Thank gawd you're in Austin so you've been able to more than make up for that one concertgoing experience. ;-)

Music starts tomorrow. :-) Of course, I took Thursday and Friday off. ;-)

rub it in whydoncha?

Well, have fun!

It's SO right up your alley!

Plus, you could get me one of those platinum "go anywhere" passes. ;-)

Lots of fun - not enough sleep.

I want to go some year.

Don't know about the passes, unfortunately right now I have more connections with the Indie and "Linkin Park" type bands than my preferred genre :-(, but I could try.

Here are the details about this year. I bet they're the same.

http://sxsw.com/attend/

Lal la lala lalalalalalalala

Ugh! Journey. YEs that video and song where "Oh look at poor me being a rockstar" CRAAAAAAAAP

Running on Empty. Great concept LP. The actual tribute might be The Loadout, which segues into his cover/live adaptation of Stay.

He was one of the founders of a sub-genre of music that was quite a turning point in music in the early 70's (California Country), when the music industry needed to get away from the turbulent 60's.

(Hey GOP - Not actually replying to your post specifically in my message - I'm just too lazy to reply to the same thread twice...):D

goes way back to Stay by the Four Seasons and even further

Stay, just a litlle bit longer, Stay stay stay stay ...


His was the best ever

I couldn't remember the group for a post above.

Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs.

I know. Pickin' nits...

with an electric guitar. Other than that I think he's OK.

They had nothing to do with rock music, and frankly, neither does Prince. They belong in the Pop Hall of Fame.

:headbang:
rocknation

sorry if that isnt apparent.

I am going to scream. Detroit radio has been talking about him and playing his songs 24/7!! that's right, I'm from MI and I don't like Bob Seager! Give me lots of George Harrison instead. As for Jackson Browne...my parents like him : )

The early stuff, before the Silver Bullet Band. It was gret music--"Heavy Music", "East Side Story" "Persecution Smith" and tons of others. By the time the Silver Bullet Band hit, I quit following him--I felt he sort of sold out. But he certainly paid his dues--playing bars and high sclool sock hops.

The RAWK station where I grew up played him over and over and it didn't stand the test of time at all to me.

Sensitive and aware. And a puss.

Especially since he hit Darryl Hannah (and not becasue it is her...okay part of it is because it is her)-woman beaters are very low in my book and are definitely puss's

I always though he was a lighweight. Not in the same league with the rest of the inductees.

You object to Browne's induction because he's overtly political? Or because his speech offended you? Or -- what?

I can't talk about Jackson Browne's great contributions to rock & roll; I'm not a columnist for Rolling Stone. I could wax on about the influence he had on the life & music of my favorite & best music teacher, or about the five minutes the two men shared backstage when Browne came to an elementary school talent show to see his niece perform, or about the influence his music had on my life when it was falling apart and I wanted to die, but I won't.

So what if someone you don't approve of being there is in the HOF? What skin is it off your nose, hon?

JM2¢ -- YMMV

Lives In the Balance is one of my favorite CDs.
Most of the songs on that were politically relevant when it first came out & probably even more politically relevant now.
He is a great singer/song writer.

The Pretender - love, love, love him

This is the Lounge, remember? Complaining about stuff like this is what we do here. No need to take it personally.

;)

:spank:

:)

It's all good, poopthrower.

My god. I can't believe I just typed out "poopthrower." :7

...whenever I have to fill out forms! :silly:

I am asking about the music.

and I meant no offense. Didn't mean to put you off, UP.

As to his music -- IMO it's a damn sight better than anything Springsteen has ever come up with.

:shrug:

I've never been a fan of Bruuuuuuuce's either. He a very few songs that are at least okay. I love his politics but that is his politics not his music. Bruce played a show in Richmond last year and the radio was all Bruce all the time....I listened to NPR.

ON EDIT- I didn't ake it as being "b----y"

He was about to go on stage, 15 minutes after Springsteen. The stage folks were saying to him "don't worry about the crowd. They're not booing, they saying BRRRRUUUUUCCCE!" To which Browne replied, "What's the difference?"

Just wanted to remind folks of the respectful relationship Jackson has had for his "buddy".
The Professor

the only one I carre about is Mr. Harrison


DDQM

"Lives In The Balance" is one of the great 80's albums - an honest look at the Reagan era. He led a lawsuit by the Christic Institute against Oliver North and the other felons behind Nicaragua. Browne held benefit concerts for the legal fees of the C.I., and aid for the uprooted and wounded of Nicaragua. He is a real activist.

"Lawyers In Love" was eerily prescient about the way the west economically exploits the Third World, especially since the fall of the Iron Curtain.

Also, he produced Warren Zevon's first album, and helped finance the demos, becoming his biggest booster in the industry.

He is far more deserving than Prince, and as much as I love George, he only had one good solo album - the rest are cures for insomnia.

Seger is one the greats too. I bet fewer than 3 DUers even know the fantastic stretch of albums ranging from 1970's "Mongrel" to 1974's "Seven" (his seventh album, he began recording LP's in 1968). Plus, "Live Bullet" is indisputably one of the 10 greatest live albums of all time. He can sing rings around Browne, Springsteen, or any of the other 'heartland' rockers.

ZZ Top brought straight blues into the rock mainstream, and honestly too - rather than those horrible Brit parodies as exploited by Zep and others.

I'd say Prince was the only one not worth honoring.

guy is a genius and very socially/culturally aware.

AYFKM!!! Prince is one of the most talented artists ever! Purple Rain is still one of the best albums ever recorded.

as far as artistry and talent, JB is not in the same league as Prince........not even close.................

Give me a 1984 vintage Casio keyboard, and I can make better music (in fact, I have). I can't pout, whimper, or sigh his "lyrics" like him though.

Biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the industry, but it IS the Hall of Lame.

he's easily one of the best songwriters that emerged in the '70's. Give a listen to 'The Pretender' or 'Late for the Sky' and his talent is obvious. I never really thought he was much of a singer but his heart is in there.

Poor JB! hahahahaha

Maybe we should make an "anti" hall of fame, for those people who are famous for being bad.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

I even like a few of his songs but is his body of work that impressive or influential to deserve induction into the R&R Hall of Fame?

But he did make a big impact on Rock through Zevon, the Eagles, the concerts, etc.

the rest I wouldn't have voted for.

Though I love JB (I have most of his early albums) and his politics (I've supported him by going to many of his fund raising shows), I'm not sure he's worthy of the HOF. I think noteworthy musical contributions and innovations should be the deciding factors. Even though I can't stand Seger or ZZ Top I think they are more deserving than JB.

I must have mised that earlier. Yeah I think that since they built it they feel like they need at least 5 a year to do a whole show. The idea of a Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is pretty stupid to me anyway.

That's reason enough for me. True, he hasn't exactly set the world on fire lately but back in the day, the man was an extremely talented songwriter as evidenced in his earlier albums.

10 gold gloves....no wait......

can somebody direct me to the Weird Al Yankovic thread?

he was "in" during '72-'73??

"Saturate Before Using" ws tolerable and "For Everyman" was marginal, but by then it was clear that the dreaded "introspection" lyrics were showing up, and it was tres cool back then to be introspective. <Swoon>

Ack. That stupid roadie song makes me ill.

Jackson Browne = Billy Joel with a California drivers license.

Jackson Browne and Chuck Berry in the same place - that ain't right.

IMHO one of the greatest songs of that era or any era.

Personally, I don't think that anyone who even did so much as be in the same room with the Eagles, should EVER be in the hall of fame. But I assume the eagles themselves are in there, as well.

That invalidates the whole thing, so far as I am concerned.

Ask Ms Hannah about it